Chelsea Transfers

[OhForAGreavsie 5,876]

9 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

So Golding's fee covers 5/6 of the first year's amortisation of the KDH transfer. If another youngster does well enough to earn a £5m move this time next year that will basically be two payments down and three to go on KDH.

As long as the outgoing kids are accepting these transfers for the right reasons, and are not players we should be retaining as likely or potential future first-teamers, I'm ok with this. I do wonder what Neil bath makes of it all however.

[DH1988 1,263]

40 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

So Golding's fee covers 5/6 of the first year's amortisation of the KDH transfer. If another youngster does well enough to earn a £5m move this time next year that will basically be two payments down and three to go on KDH.

As long as the outgoing kids are accepting these transfers for the right reasons, and are not players we should be retaining as likely or potential future first-teamers, I'm ok with this. I do wonder what Neil bath makes of it all however.

I don't think they are beyond recognising if someone is a talent ie. Josh A for example. At the end of the day we probably ended up losing the Goldings of the world for free, £500k compensation or tumbling down the leagues years gone by. Time will tell.

I think the real judgement will come when the Paez's and the Estevao's come in vs academy talent, another fork in the road.

[Reddish-Blue 2,325]

46 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

I think the real judgement will come when the Paez's and the Estevao's come in vs academy talent, another fork in the road.

What academy talent do we have that is close to the level of Paez and Estevao? 

I'm more interested in seeing what the club do with guys like Ugo, Santos, Casadei as there aren't many minutes available in midfield.  Maybe they get sold off just like Maatsen to help balance the books on PSR. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,325]

3 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

That would be a very very nice signing.  I don't expect us to get Calafiori but we desperately need talent at CB.    Tosin isn't enough as there are still question marks over Disasi/Badiashile and even Colwill. 

[Strike 7,202]

Can't keep buying up CBs every summer

2022- Koulibaly, Fofana

2023 - Badiashile, Disasi

All while having Colwill, Chalobah on the books. 

[robsblubot 3,468]

19 minutes ago, Strike said:

Can't keep buying up CBs every summer

2022- Koulibaly, Fofana

2023 - Badiashile, Disasi

All while having Colwill, Chalobah on the books. 

I count one solid CB, 2 decent, 2 fairly poor, and one who never plays.
It also does not stop us from buying any promising youngster who casts a shadow, so why would CB be any different? We let Andreas go for no good reason eh.

[Pizy 18,344]

I guess I just don’t understand where Calafiori fits in the squad currently. He’s the level of CB in terms of both talent and money spent that should slot straight into your first XI. But we have Colwill there as well as Badiashile on the left. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,325]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

I guess I just don’t understand where Calafiori fits in the squad currently. He’s the level of CB in terms of both talent and money spent that should slot straight into your first XI. But we have Colwill there as well as Badiashile on the left. 

Would think Calafiori is ahead of both of them at the moment. 

Colwill's injuries and lack of continuity last season didn't help his development as I expected him to kick on from his loan at Brighton. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,325]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

Can't keep buying up CBs every summer

2022- Koulibaly, Fofana

2023 - Badiashile, Disasi

All while having Colwill, Chalobah on the books. 

If Fofana was fit, we wouldn't be buying CB's.....and Chalobah's been linked to moves for the past few summers but no-one seems that interested. 

To think at one point, we had Rudiger/Christensen/Tomori and even Guehi was on the books (might have been on loan in Championship).  Fast forward 2-3 years, they are all gone and we have CB's who aren't really better than any of them.  

[Special Juan 27,392]

Caliafiori is a no brainer for the money being talked about

[Pizy 18,344]

13 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Would think Calafiori is ahead of both of them at the moment. 

Colwill's injuries and lack of continuity last season didn't help his development as I expected him to kick on from his loan at Brighton. 

And he’s never going to get that continuity and development if we buy someone around his age and level. 

[Strike 7,202]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

I guess I just don’t understand where Calafiori fits in the squad currently. He’s the level of CB in terms of both talent and money spent that should slot straight into your first XI. But we have Colwill there as well as Badiashile on the left. 

And Clearlake's told Bayern to back off from making an offer for Colwill, gave him a long contract. I think Calafiori will be overkill. 

[Pizy 18,344]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

And Clearlake's told Bayern to back off from making an offer for Colwill, gave him a long contract. I think Calafiori will be overkill. 

Exactly. We fought to keep him, adamantly rejected advances from not just Bayern but remember also Liverpool were sniffing around him. Plus Brighton wanting him back. We had to really convince him and reassure him of his prominent role or he otherwise would’ve asked to leave. To now go out and basically replace him with Calafiori would be detrimental to Levi’s development.

If Badiashile wasn’t here and we had just Colwill & Calafiori pushing each other that would be one thing. But 3 LCB’s is indeed overkill because one of them would never se the pitch.

[DH1988 1,263]

Let Bada go to Milan if they are still interested and get shot of Col if someone is going to give us £70m or the like. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,415]

I hope he got a relegation clause.

 

[King Kante 1,456]

20 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Exactly. We fought to keep him, adamantly rejected advances from not just Bayern but remember also Liverpool were sniffing around him. Plus Brighton wanting him back. We had to really convince him and reassure him of his prominent role or he otherwise would’ve asked to leave. To now go out and basically replace him with Calafiori would be detrimental to Levi’s development.

If Badiashile wasn’t here and we had just Colwill & Calafiori pushing each other that would be one thing. But 3 LCB’s is indeed overkill because one of them would never se the pitch.

I also think a few things need to happen at CB, however I do not think it is as impossible as people suggest. Here is what needs to be considered: 

1) We potentially have 70-80 games next season so the squad is going to have to be larger than normal. I would expect 5 CB's at a minimum if we play a back 4. 

Let look at the CB's:.

1) Trev. I personally think it is madness to sell him but it appears we love nothing more than FFP money. I suspect he is gone, although it may be a buy with compulsion to sign for the next financial cycle. 

2) Disaster. This guy under no circumstances should be here next season. If he is it should be in the capacity of CB6. Unlike some of the others he is already 25/26 and is pretty much a known quantity. So, sell, loan or make him the CB6 we never see. 

3) Colwill. I reckon he starts as LCB1 and keeps that position. 

4) Tosin. I am not sure what to make of this guy. I haven't seen him enough and have seen the reviews that have been positive. However, my Fulham mate says he is essentially Disaster level at defending but is a good passer. For me I think he is either RCB1 or in the CB3-5 range depending on Fofana. 

5) Fofana. Where is this kid in terms of development and fitness? He could be anything from a busted flush to RCB1. I don't think we'll know until after pre-season. If he is completely short of match fitness, and it looks like he may need months to get it. Is there a chance of a loan to aide recovery? So many questions with him. 

6) Badman. I think he will prove people wrong and improve massively next season. I reckon he stays but he could end up CB5 as I am thinking he is the left footed player who can play right and left. 

So, whilst we currently have 6 CB's, I think it is really 5 with Trev almost certain to leave. After that we have Disaster who should not be here next season if talent is a requirement and Fofana who may be in no shape to play. 

Of course at that point, you would think a right footed CB would be required. However, the Italian kid is looking like value for money (I haven't seen enough to know if this is true) and helps with the LB situation. 

I don't think it is impossible, even if it is not likely. 

Edited July 1 by King Kante

[Strike 7,202]

On 29/06/2024 at 22:55, Vesper said:

Khéphren Thuram
Youssouf Fofana
Pablo Barrios
Manu Koné
Edoardo Bove

I have to say all of them except Bove seem to be better than KDH.

+ Khephren Thuram contract expires in 25. Reports he is going to Juve for 12.75m pounds. Same for Youssof Fofana - contract expires in 25 and is valued at 21m pounds. 

 

 

[Strike 7,202]

12 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

Let Bada go to Milan if they are still interested and get shot of Col if someone is going to give us £70m or the like. 

Big mistake to think of giving up on Colwill. After James, he's the best academy product we've had - better than Guehi, Tomori who have become serviceable defenders.