Tomo 21,751 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 minute ago, lucio said: Bid £50m for lavia right this instant. Stop fucking around you useless clowns You want us to stop fucking around but at the same time bid for a player who clearly wants Liverpool and only Liverpool? mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 They really do want Colwill don't they. Hopefully our board are sensible and do not offer them more than £85M, which is more than fair. If Brighton reject that, then I think we should move on. 85 million pounds is a LOT of money. We don't want to get rinsed by them again. In the meantime our board should also focus on scouting for alternatives, one which compliments Enzo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,444 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, Tomo said: You want us to stop fucking around but at the same time bid for a player who clearly wants Liverpool and only Liverpool? Who says he only wants Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,444 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tomo said: You want us to stop fucking around but at the same time bid for a player who clearly wants Liverpool and only Liverpool? Based on what ? Where does it say that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Who says he only wants Liverpool. Pretty much every report for atleast the last month and you literally have just proved my point yourself minutes later. Just like with VVD years back, it's very clear where he wants to end up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,444 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Tomo said: Pretty much every report for atleast the last month and you literally have just proved my point yourself minutes later. Just like with VVD years back, it's very clear where he wants to end up. He wants to go there because Liverpool was the only one who actually moved for him, if the clowns working at this club wouldn't have wasted 2 months on Caicedo we would likely got him by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, lucio said: Based on what ? Where does it say that ? Pretty much every report for the last month including one just posted have said he has his heart set on Liverpool. It's VVD a few years ago all over again, pointless even trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,906 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 So now we’re going to go after a player that has his head set on and has one foot in the door at Liverpool. So if we throw in a panic bid and he decides to go to Liverpool we look like clowns. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ I mean, how does that look from Lavia’s POV? ‘You could’ve signed me at any point this summer but only came back in for me after the player you really wanted fell through?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Tomo said: Hey? We has an entire Alex Sandro saga in 2017, Koulibaly saga in 2016 and Lukaku was done so late in the window he couldn't play the first game. Last time we got the deal wrapped up early under Roman was 2014. I don't think getting players in for pre season is the massive crucial deal breaker it's made out to be anyway, maybe if it's multiple players but certainly not just one. Mata came in late and adapted fine and quickly, the only time Lukaku looked good for us was when he was training with the squad for a matter of days, Kova arguably had his best performance for us on his debut vs Arsenal at a point his Chelsea career was days old, Silva and Mendy came in late and instantly slotted in (while the players we did get in nice and early that summer struggled). I think with the changes and loss of personnel we’ve had in MF though and the experience amongst it, we really needed to focus on getting in there sorted as early as possible though. We’ve a lot of relatively new faces in there with Gallagher now being our most senior midfielder - he’s only been here as a first team player for a season. Get the feeling we should of been looking to do it early to give them all a lot of time to figure each other out sooner as most are relatively young. If one or two of the likes of Jorgi/Ngolo/Kova were kicking about the squad still, yes the timeframe maybe wouldn’t be hugely important as those guys have a lot of games and know how between them that could calm the young guys but we don’t have the experience or those sort of relationships in there now. We need to build that up - best way to do it would of been getting them in and establishing the partnerships early doors. Fair pre-seasons not exactly the most competitive but its better to settle those nerves or iron out those wrinkles in those games than competitive ones where points are at stake. Particularly with young, inexperienced footballers. After last season, for me it is absolutely paramount that Poch got the team playing like a team as quickly as possible. We seen the disaster that was a mishmash of players who you could tell didn’t have any sort of cohesion or chemistry largely throughout last season. Early signs look good but I am still skeptical of pre-season being much much more than initial building blocks and a fitness exercise. Edited July 27, 2023 by OneMoSalah Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,444 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, Strike said: Hand the transfer request and show them the finger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,534 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Zubimendi or Caqueret maybe.. bluesman2610 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) Striking similar to Caicedo. Under 5m Edited July 27, 2023 by Clockwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Hand the transfer request and show them the finger. Signed a 4 year deal in January though to 2027 with a +1 option so don’t see that really doing anything earth shattering to improve things on our end. That was after his January transfer request also, so yeah, don’t see it helping us either way. Edited July 27, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,906 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Signed a 4 year deal in January though to 2027 with a +1 option so don’t see that really doing anything earth shattering to improve things on our end. He should fire his agent for allowing him to sign that deal without a set release clause. And he should also be extremely pissed at Brighton for assuring him he could go if a reasonable offer came in in the summer and rejecting £80m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Caicedo dug this hole for himself agreeing to that contract in March Fernando, OneMoSalah and mkh 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Pizy said: He should fire his agent for allowing him to sign that deal without a set release clause. And he should also be extremely pissed at Brighton for assuring him he could go if a reasonable offer came in in the summer and rejecting £80m. Agents can only advice so far though and I am sure Caicedo was happy enough to sign a hugely improved 4+1 year deal at the time. If he maybe held his nerve and didn’t renew but stayed there the rest of the season, chances are he would of got his move by now and got paid more all the same as he would of had a better hand. Even if he hands in a transfer request, Brighton can just laugh it off and be like “Really? Didn’t we do this already 6 months ago?” Honestly, can’t help but admire Brighton’s stance to be fair. It’s frustrating for is but they really don’t need the money after selling a lot of good players the last 12-18 months, are in Europe for the first time ever and are ambitious enough to not sell somebody who is near about/arguably on equal par to Declan Rice who went to Arsenal for £105m. In an ever so inflated market, absolutely they should hold out for £100m. If it was roles reversed I’d be disappointed if we didn’t do the same. Our lack of a plan B though is incredibly alarming. All these football boffins put in place and it looks as if they are saying that Caicedo is the only midfielder in world footballer that may suit us… Edited July 27, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 This is getting really boring fast. Move on ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 This is pathetic, move on. Vegetable and Fernando 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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