Mário César 1,282 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, Strike said: Looks like we are staying out of the forward and GK market this summer. Why you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, lucio said: And the midfield market at this rate We only need Caicedo, and this will happen 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mário César said: Why you say that? The only strong rumours have been about Caicedo and the either Cherki or Dybala, with the leak being that we think we need to add creativity. I think Poch did say he wants to see in preseason if we need to add goals or if we have enough goal scorers in the squad, so a forward is still possible if he becomes convinced we need to go to the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Strike said: There was a hue and cry from Liverpool fans when Chelsea were selling to Saudi clubs. It seems Liverpool is coolly shipping off their midfield to Saudi Apparently Henderson could be on his way to Saudi as well. If he goes, they get +10M for him too. Need to be careful not to let the fucking dippers slither their way into any deal for Caicedo now. They've stayed away so far because they've been priced out but if the Saudis are about to hand them an unexpected 50M+ for their over-the-hill midfield duo and free up a good chunk of salaries too they might think differently about Caicedo too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jype said: Apparently Henderson could be on his way to Saudi as well. If he goes, they get +10M for him too. Need to be careful not to let the fucking dippers slither their way into any deal for Caicedo now. They've stayed away so far because they've been priced out but if the Saudis are about to hand them an unexpected 50M+ for their over-the-hill midfield duo and free up a good chunk of salaries too they might think differently about Caicedo too. If I were Brighton I would certainly spread these kind of news 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jype said: Apparently Henderson could be on his way to Saudi as well. If he goes, they get +10M for him too. Need to be careful not to let the fucking dippers slither their way into any deal for Caicedo now. They've stayed away so far because they've been priced out but if the Saudis are about to hand them an unexpected 50M+ for their over-the-hill midfield duo and free up a good chunk of salaries too they might think differently about Caicedo too. It isn't a coincidence why we are the only club speaking for Brighton. Not United, Liverpool, City, and Arsenal pulling out in the running. Matt Law this morning posted there is a belief clubs have inquired for Caicedo but he's had his mind up in joining Chelsea since May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, Gundalf said: We only need Caicedo, and this will happen 100% Yeah, going on with Enzo, and Caicedo, with Hall, Gallagher, Santos as backups are disaster waiting to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,493 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: It isn't a coincidence why we are the only club speaking for Brighton. Not United, Liverpool, City, and Arsenal pulling out in the running. Matt Law this morning posted there is a belief clubs have inquired for Caicedo but he's had his mind up in joining Chelsea since May. We've been here before. Dembele, Raphinha, De Ligt, Kounde I'm not considering Caicedo is done until there's confirmation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,719 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Caceido and one more of Lavia, Thurman, Onana, etc would be nice. Just get a cheap bully. Even Kessie would be fine if he can be gotten for a decent price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Going into the season with Enzo and Caicedo as our only two first XI quality midfielders would be a recipe for disaster. We’d be one serious injury to either of them away from finishing midtable again. It simply can’t happen. We need 2 new midfielders. Strike, Stats, Blue Armour and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: It isn't a coincidence why we are the only club speaking for Brighton. Not United, Liverpool, City, and Arsenal pulling out in the running. Matt Law this morning posted there is a belief clubs have inquired for Caicedo but he's had his mind up in joining Chelsea since May. Guess we'll see what happens. Arsenal, United and City clearly had other priorities with Rice/Mount/Kovacic and were never after Caicedo for this summer in the first place. And with Liverpool having been priced out we've had a seemingly free run at Caicedo so it was probably very easy for him to make up his mind about a potential Chelsea move early, but if Liverpool all of a sudden get the cash needed and enter the race after all who's to say he won't be tempted to change his mind? Just one more reason for the club to try and clinch a deal for Caicedo ASAP, the main reason obviously being to have him in for the pre-season tour. Laylabelle and Strike 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pizy said: Going into the season with Enzo and Caicedo as our only two first XI quality midfielders would be a recipe for disaster. We’d be one serious injury to either of them away from finishing midtable again. It simply can’t happen. We need 2 new midfielders. We only have 1 game per week, no big rotation needed. Reece can be a very good DM and at this point, we need to trust our talents a bit more. It would be ridiculous to spend like another 50m on a 19yo Lavia, when we have a 19yo Santos and a 19yo Chukwuemeka in the squad already with similar talent. Let the boys cook. Santos will be worth 100m in 2 years, I swear. Mhsc and mkh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, Pizy said: Going into the season with Enzo and Caicedo as our only two first XI quality midfielders would be a recipe for disaster. We’d be one serious injury to either of them away from finishing midtable again. It simply can’t happen. We need 2 new midfielders. Isn't that exactly what City did, and they just won the treble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, Pizy said: Going into the season with Enzo and Caicedo as our only two first XI quality midfielders would be a recipe for disaster. We’d be one serious injury to either of them away from finishing midtable again. That's one way to look at it. But considering we only have the domestic competitions to play for, it might not be such a bad idea to go into the season with a smaller squad and have a fixed starting XI and only deviate from that when absolutely necessary. Having many high profile players means they'll all want to play as often as possible and the manager will be forced to rotate the team at the expense of building some consistency and team chemistry with some clear starters. For years Klopp worked wonders with a Liverpool squad that had a steep drop off in quality after the first XI so it can work. The same could be said about Arsenal last season, for most positions their squad depth was pretty bad but they were able to field almost the same starting eleven week-in week-out which definitely helped their league form. Of course it's a bit risky and a bad injury can really hurt if the backup players are significantly worse and/or inexperienced than the starters but that's a risk I'd perhaps be willing to take for a season that will only have 40-45 games overall and playing just one game a week. Assuming our starting midfielders were Enzo and Caicedo their injury records are almost spotless. So far Enzo doesn't have any injuries on record at the age of 22 and Caicedo's only missed 7 games to injury in 2020 when he was still playing in Ecuador but nothing since moving to Brighton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 City had a little versatility where Foden and B.Silva could play in midfield on top of Rodri, Gundogan, and KBD. Not sure if Enzo, Caicedo, and Santos is enough. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,493 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: City had a little versatility where Foden and B.Silva could play in midfield on top of Rodri, Gundogan, and KBD. Not sure if Enzo, Caicedo, and Santos is enough. He wasn't used but they had Kalvin Phillips too. Someone they paid 45m for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Gundalf said: Reece can be a very good DM and at this point, we need to trust our talents a bit more. I'd like to know where this idea came from. He's been used in that position barely once. IMO, it's as bad an idea as having Luiz as DM. Round pegs in square holes don't work for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: I'd like to know where this idea came from. He's been used in that position barely once. IMO, it's as bad an idea as having Luiz as DM. Round pegs in square holes don't work for long. You wouldn't have wanted Philip Lahm to move when Pep moved him either I guess? And Gareth Bale should have stayed as LB as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: I'd like to know where this idea came from. He's been used in that position barely once. IMO, it's as bad an idea as having Luiz as DM. Round pegs in square holes don't work for long. At Wigan, Reece went from the best right back in the Championship to the best centre midfielder in the Championship, when they moved him during the season. He can definitely play the position and I would anticipate to a high standard too. The key will be whether moving him away from right back is to the detriment of the team, and a large part of that will be what sort of impact Malo Gusto can have. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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