Chelsea Transfers

[Gundalf 806]

6 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

What do you guys think about moving James to DMF? I think he has the tools for it and because of his body, he is always going to be susceptible to injury running up and down the flank. He played there a bit while at Wigan. It would mean we only need to sign Caicedo and another starting RB.

We dont need a big squad having 1 game per week so maybe he can be used in both positions depending on the squad situation. 

[Hashishi 148]

#	Player	Age	Nat.	Club	Market value
1	Reece James Right-Back	23			€65.00m
2	Achraf Hakimi Right-Back	24			€65.00m
3	Trent Alexander-Arnold Right-Back	24			€65.00m
4	Ben White Right-Back	25			€55.00m
5	João Cancelo Right-Back	29			€50.00m
6	Pedro Porro Right-Back	23			€40.00m
7	Jeremie Frimpong Right-Back	22			€40.00m
8	Diogo Dalot Right-Back	24			€40.00m
9	Benjamin Pavard Right-Back	27			€40.00m
10	Nahuel Molina Right-Back	25			€35.00m
11	Noussair Mazraoui Right-Back	25			€28.00m
12	Malo Gusto Right-Back	20			€25.00m
13	Aaron Hickey Right-Back	21			€25.00m
14	Tino Livramento Right-Back	20			€25.00m
15	Juan Foyth Right-Back	25			€25.00m
16	Aaron Wan-Bissaka Right-Back	25			€25.00m
17	Matty Cash Right-Back	25			€25.00m
18	Lutsharel Geertruida Right-Back	22			€25.00m
19	Kyle Walker-Peters Right-Back	26			€25.00m
20	Takehiro Tomiyasu Right-Back	24			€25.00m

 

21st most valuable is castagne who must be leaving Leicester at some point this summer and at 27 he has a few years left in him before his legs go. If maddison went for 50m, surely 25m would be enough to turn their heads.

Other options could be:

Molina as we were linked to him in January

Pavard as he is linked with a move every window

Tino if we still have a buyback

Geertruida who I've heard good things about but not sure how the step up would suit him.

I'm also wary of signing someone young to compete with Malo Gusto as it could make him feel like his path is blocked like colwill probably feels now with Badman being a starter for most of the last year.

[Special Juan 28,142]

Sounds like the push is on for Cherkhi

[Mário César 1,281]

1 minute ago, Special Juan said:

Sounds like the push is on for Cherkhi

he is another winger?

[Hashishi 148]

 

#	Player	Age	Nat.	Club	Market value
1	Declan Rice Defensive Midfield	24			€90.00m
2	Rodri Defensive Midfield	27			€90.00m
3	Aurélien Tchouaméni Defensive Midfield	23			€85.00m
4	Enzo Fernández Defensive Midfield	22			€80.00m
5	Moisés Caicedo Defensive Midfield	21			€75.00m
6	Joshua Kimmich Defensive Midfield	28			€75.00m
7	Bruno Guimarães Defensive Midfield	25			€70.00m
8	Manuel Ugarte Defensive Midfield	22			€50.00m
9	Sandro Tonali Defensive Midfield	23			€50.00m
10	Amadou Onana Defensive Midfield	21			€45.00m
11	Fabinho Defensive Midfield	29			€42.00m
12	Martín Zubimendi Defensive Midfield	24			€40.00m
13	Ismaël Bennacer Defensive Midfield	25			€40.00m
14	João Palhinha Defensive Midfield	28			€40.00m
15	Rúben Neves Defensive Midfield	26			€40.00m
16	Stanislav Lobotka Defensive Midfield	28			€40.00m
17	Casemiro Defensive Midfield	31			€40.00m
18	Cheick Doucouré Defensive Midfield	23			€35.00m
19	Edson Álvarez Defensive Midfield	25			€35.00m
20	Ibrahim Sangaré Defensive Midfield	25			€35.00m

 

In comparison, not only would another DMF be more expensive, most re not remotely availible. Rice, ugarte, Neves and Tonali have all moved on this summer. Zubimendi is waiting for barca. Unless Tchou magically becomes availible this summer, and I don't even think he would move to us with no CL. The only ones I like the look of are Onana and Palhinha. However, both play for relegation level teams and might struggle to make the step up. Lavia is a bit further down. I think someone like Lavia or Onana is best because our MF is short AF and all it would take is long balls into the DM area and then a long shot past kepa to beat us....

[Hashishi 148]

7 minutes ago, Mário César said:

he is another winger?

I think he's a AMF. Basically the Mount replacement, although imo he looks like the Ziyech 2.0

9 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Sounds like the push is on for Cherkhi

Source?

[Hashishi 148]

22 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

We dont need a big squad having 1 game per week so maybe he can be used in both positions depending on the squad situation. 

I agree, this is why it would be the perfect season to make the transition. And then maybe sign a DMF or RB depending on how it goes.

[Mhsc 1,098]

50 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

What do you guys think about moving James to DMF? I think he has the tools for it and because of his body, he is always going to be susceptible to injury running up and down the flank. He played there a bit while at Wigan. It would mean we only need to sign Caicedo and another starting RB.

Yes, I am in favour of this, honestly a midfield of Reece as a DM, Enzo as a left 8 and Caicedo as a right 8 could be phenomenal and able to hold their own at any level of football.

With regards to squad size, I think we are moving in the direction of Pep with a smaller squad and lots of players that can play multiple positions. Pep won the treble like this and dominated English football for quite a while now. It has obvious risks but clearly can be insane when it works. I also think this is why the club is not going crazy to sign lots of CMs, thinking we have options who can play there (Santos, Hall, Colwill, Reece all very sensible options imo), but just targeting players they think are potentially elite and important for the long term, who will almost definitely be useful somewhere (Caicedo for example can play 3 positions - AT LEAST - competently)

[DH1988 1,348]

Poch will want the Dembele equivalent, who was criminally underrated at Spuds, interested to see what formation we line up with, I’d be disappointed if we saw Enzo dropping deep in all honesty.

[Mhsc 1,098]

11 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

Poch will want the Dembele equivalent, who was criminally underrated at Spuds, interested to see what formation we line up with, I’d be disappointed if we saw Enzo dropping deep in all honesty.

I am guessing we'll see variations of something along the lines of these two (assuming we ever actually sign Caicedo), depending on who may end up nailing down a spot and becoming undroppable:

Jackson

Mudryk Nkunku Madueke

Enzo Caicedo

Chilwell Bads Fofana Reece

Kepa
 

Sterling Jackson Nkunku

Enzo Reece Caicedo

Chilwell Colwill Fofana Gusto

Kepa

Edited July 12, 2023 by Mhsc

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[Jype 6,398]

31 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

Poch will want the Dembele equivalent, who was criminally underrated at Spuds, interested to see what formation we line up with, I’d be disappointed if we saw Enzo dropping deep in all honesty.

Hasn't Poch been mainly a 4-2-3-1 man?

So maybe something like that if the likes of Caicedo and Cherki were signed? Could easily put Badiashile at LCB, Silva at RCB, Mudryk at LW as starters without affecting the lineup quality too much.

Maatsen as Chilly's backup if Cucurella can be flogged off (unlikely) and Slonina as 2nd choice keeper if a new goalie isn't signed. As for who the other options for the two midfield positions will be I have no idea, I'm sure Poch will want to have a look at the youngsters we already have before making any decisions.

If Caicedo can't be signed it gets a bit trickier. 

Edited July 12, 2023 by Jype

[milka 3,393]

Hopefully Lewis Hall , Maatse and Andrey Santos to get a chance.  Cucurella  was tragic so it is not clear if he should stay instead of Hall or Maatsen.

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

That Sebestian bloke on twitter was crucifying Cucurella in a training clip where his defensive posture was all over the place, followed by a montage of clips of Cucurella getting absolutely skinned whilst playing for us and Brighton. 

 

[ulvhedin 526]

2 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

That Sebestian bloke on twitter was crucifying Cucurella in a training clip where his defensive posture was all over the place, followed by a montage of clips of Cucurella getting absolutely skinned whilst playing for us and Brighton. 

 

which clip?

[lucio 5,418]

11 minutes ago, milka said:

Hopefully Lewis Hall , Maatse and Andrey Santos to get a chance.  Cucurella  was tragic so it is not clear if he should stay instead of Hall or Maatsen.

Hall pisses all over cucarella ,

im certain maatsen is better too 

[Mário César 1,281]

if even hall and maatsen are better than cucurella, we're screwed with him 

hall can also play in midfield, right?

if that's the case, maybe only caicedo is needed for the midfield.

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

29 minutes ago, lucio said:

Hall pisses all over cucarella ,

im certain maatsen is better too 

Think we will see Hall in midfield, Maatsen and Chilwell as fullbacks. 

[lucio 5,418]

Just now, MoroccanBlue said:

Think we will see Hall in midfield, Maatsen and Chilwell as fullbacks. 

Hall looked pretty bad in midfield last season but good at LB 

[Mhsc 1,098]

35 minutes ago, lucio said:

Hall pisses all over cucarella ,

im certain maatsen is better too 

Hall looked extremely vulnerable when he actually had to defend or move back towards our byline, from what I remember.

8 minutes ago, lucio said:

Hall looked pretty bad in midfield last season but good at LB 

It was supposed to be his natural position but agree he looked very awkward for us there, couldn't keep up with the pace of play, think he is just too raw to play there atm but could develop into a decent MF but I think he needs a loan to play a year in the Championship or similar tbh. It is sometimes a bit absurd these youth products are directly involved with us, very few at his age can already be good enough to play at this level, but in a couple of years he could be an interesting player.