Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Well, I guess we could be suffering as well, but we'd easily have 15 or so more points from effortlessly winnable games, where we were basically trashed tactically and selection-wise. With Tuchel, but also Sarri, Mou, Conte or any manager, experienced in the trade. Also morale is a thing. It's different to have 10 games to go and have Europa League secured, and different with 10 games to go and relegation not being an abstract concept. Tuchel lost to current last place Southhampton and Dinamo Zagreb, you actually out of your mind if you didn't think where this was going. Some serious revisionist going on. Potter appointment had a short turnaround actually. Tuchel was not going to survive the whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 'Boehly signed who?!?' Edited April 20, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) Roman, Boehly, Tuchel, and Potter are all at fault for this current shit. Roman and his regime for not resigning Rudigar and AC, that was a big loss in leadership. Stop making one party faultless and the other scapegoat. Edited April 20, 2023 by Clockwork Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Roman, Boehly, Tuchel, and Potter are all at fault for this current shit. Roman and his regime for not resigning Rudigar and AC, that was a big loss in leadership. Stop making one party faultless and the other scapegoat. Lets not forget it was Roman who hired Lampard the first time 💀 The last few years of the Roman Empire were really not that great tbh. CL win did cover a lot of problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdlk 297 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Just to Tuchel haters, how much finals he played with Chelsea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, gdlk said: Just to Tuchel haters, how much finals he played with Chelsea? I do not see Tuchel haters here. I see people that do keep in mind that he threw the players under the bus during preseason and did not want to work with the new owners. Tuchel created the reasons he was let go, just as he did at all previous clubs. I will always remember our run through the CL with him fondly. I will also remember how much he stepped up to stabilize the club during the sale of the club. He has flaws and those flaws came out pretty hard during the end of his tenure. I will always wish him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Tuchel lost to current last place Southhampton and Dinamo Zagreb, you actually out of your mind if you didn't think where this was going. Some serious revisionist going on. Potter appointment had a short turnaround actually. Tuchel was not going to survive the whole season. We can have all the opinions possible, as we'll never found out. In his sacking season he didn't lose two games in a row (actually always winning next game), in CL winning season lost to Brentford also. But where do you think a single lose to Southampton was going? You anticipated a record worst performance in last 25 years from this? "Turnaround" after single game lost? And it's not like Potter didn't lose to Southampton as well. Anyway, it's not about Tuchel as I said. No "elite" manager is drawing to Forest (with all respect), getting battered by Brighton, Fulham or Leeds with this squad. Or at least isn't making easy things super hard. No elite manager is sticking to players who fail every game and hopes that we will win by their individual effort as we have no serious tactics in place. And I'm quite sure any elite manager is doing to at least some of our summer signings the same thing that Tuchel did to Rudiger. Meanwhile the most expensive pack in history is just wasted and Championship-level for now. 39 minutes ago, Vesper said: lol, the club is now so shit that we are turning on each other! just chillax mates! Particularly sad thing is it stared to be full blown during the managerial change and that's one of the things that irritates me the most - we had all lost with the "vision" bs. Edited April 20, 2023 by Vegetable Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Clockwork said: Roman and his regime for not resigning Rudigar and AC, that was a big loss in leadership. Don't know why people often put Christensen in the same category as Rudiger. He was not even regular starter in best period under Tuchel. It was Azpi, Silva, Rudiger. Not to mention he never proved here he is capable of playing at high level in 4 atb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Don't know why people often put Christensen in the same category as Rudiger. He was not even regular starter in best period under Tuchel. It was Azpi, Silva, Rudiger. Not to mention he never proved here he is capable of playing at high level in 4 atb. Christensen has been better than Rudigar, Barca fans absolutely love him. Should have been valued more at Chelsea. Also AC had shown more promise in a back 4 when both on form, AC was phenomenal at the Euros with Denmark in a back 4, while Rudigar was back to his sus self with Germany. Edited April 21, 2023 by Clockwork OneMoSalah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 We didn't want to let Barry go because of potential semis with Bayern. He would tell them our secrets 😂 Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,636 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Vesper, kexik, OneMoSalah and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 What is the opinion of Sofyan Amrabet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 4 hours ago, TheHulk said: Wonder how much they're willing to pay for him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Edited April 22, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 10 hours ago, Clockwork said: What is the opinion of Sofyan Amrabet? I am a bit hesitant because if we buy him this summer we only get 3 sub 30yo seasons (and DMFs tend to, on average, blow out and plummet post 30yo) out of him (so if we give him 2, 3 seasons and he is a bust we will get so little compared to what we paid for him, as he will be 29 or 30yo), plus he is very non creative, zero goals, zero assists in almost 3000 minutes this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 nil Citeh Mahrez scored a pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Vesper said: I am a bit hesitant because if we buy him this summer we only get 3 sub 30yo seasons (and DMFs tend to, on average, blow out and plummet post 30yo) out of him (so if we give him 2, 3 seasons and he is a bust we will get so little compared to what we paid for him, as he will be 29 or 30yo), plus he is very non creative, zero goals, zero assists in almost 3000 minutes this season He is a true DMF, type of player that would drop deep be almost a CB and provide physical presence in midfield. Depends on the price, i wouldn’t mind him so it can allow Enzo more freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) Højlund Is definitely the most exciting ST out there; technical ability, elite athleticism, size, etc. If Poch is appointed, could be a great manager to work with. DM? Romeo Lavia, is a very fascinating. So is Ugarte and Zubimendi. GK? Mamardashvili, is in that Cech and Courtois mould; tall and robust GK that bring a presence in the box. Diogo Costa is in the mould Allison and Ederson. Edited April 23, 2023 by Clockwork mkh and DDA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Clockwork said: He is a true DMF, type of player that would drop deep be almost a CB and provide physical presence in midfield. Depends on the price, i wouldn’t mind him so it can allow Enzo more freedom. Don't see him "improving" our midfield that much. If we're really doing a rebuild, might be better off going after Lavia or Ugarte, let them build a partnership with Enzo for the next 5+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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