Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 57 minutes ago, Vesper said: Large drop off in quality from Enzo Definitely... not seen much of Mr Beans (fagioli) but Cacqueret is pants. Not that optimistic on Enzo. The club apparently still wants to negotiate but it is clear wehave annoyed Benfica enough to not make go lower on the release clause. It is about pride for them now. As for Malo Gusto I can see us hanging in there and in the end getting the deal done. Purportedly, Lyon are asking for around 35m - twice his market value - which we could easily pay in an instant. But I think we are getting more methodical, professional and unrelenting in negotiations after those statement captures. Which is ironic as arguably a back up RB is our most urgend need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bijitaq 9 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: I am 100% confident "no means no" hasn't been said, that's what you say to a 4 year old asking for sweets or chocolate, not a 100+million deal. Nothing that comes out on this rag is to be trusted. Yesterday he would leave for sure and today is staying but actually nothing has changed besides they maybe managed to dupe some fools into buying a few more papers. Edited January 24, 2023 by bijitaq Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 18,927 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I mean seriously, what was the point in all these journalists yesterday reporting that the Enzo pursuit is back on when we’re LITERALLY at the same place we were a month ago? Benfica ONLY want the release clause and we are “reluctant” to pay said release clause. Absolutely nothing has changed. So all these people just getting Chelsea supporters’ hopes up based on nothing. The closer we get to the deadline the less and less likely Benfica are to even take our call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pizy said: I mean seriously, what was the point in all these journalists yesterday reporting that the Enzo pursuit is back on when we’re LITERALLY at the same place we were a month ago? Benfica ONLY want the release clause and we are “reluctant” to pay said release clause. Absolutely nothing has changed. So all these people just getting Chelsea supporters’ hopes up based on nothing. The closer we get to the deadline the less and less likely Benfica are to even take our call. Well what's changed is that we're apparently trying again, probably based on that upcoming ffp rule change. Not that i think that's gonna change anything about the situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 19 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: I think for sure Real Madrid, Man City, Liverpool will all be in the market for a statement signing in the summer and I think MFers such as Bellingham and Enzo will top most lists. There are only 3 players (remotely available so no Mbappe or Håland) in Summer 2023 EVERYONE wants: Bellingham Gvardiol Enzo and a 4th that all want except one club on the planet (Citeh, as they have the best CF on the planet and a near WC backup already) Osimhen IF all players on the planet were all available, there are (besides Mbappe and Håland) only a handful of other players that every club would want (almost all are Barca and Real players or soon will be more than likely): Reece (definitely preferred to the 3rd best FB, Hakimi as he is vastly better defensively), Alphonso Davies (the 2 best fullbacks by far on the planet), Vini Jr, and then the Barca/Real MF group of Pedri, Gavi, Valverde, and Aurélien Tchouameni. The only other players would you could stretch and maybe claim next tier down global universal desire status for are Foden, Saka, Musiala, then: Oblak, Cuntois, Ruben Dias, Kane (not higher, due to age), Rodrygo, Rafael Leão, Kimmich, Hakimi, plus atm (they are all ageing), De Bruyne, Lewa, Messi, Neymar, Sarah, and Benz. Nuno Mendes, Bruno Guimarães, Khvicha Kvaratskhelia (potentially), and Ronald Araújo are near those, as are Nkunku, Skriniar, Marquinhos, and hopefully Mudryk (eventually). Some of those would not be needed by certain teams, especially a player like Rafael Leão and say Real Madrid, where there is ZERO chance they would carry (eventually as I FULLY belive they get Mbappe eventually) 3 left wingers, all who want to start at LW mainly or only (Mbappe, Vini Jr, Leão). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Fabrizio says contact was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Fabrizio says contact was made. How can it be top secret when Fabrizio (and seemingly everyone else) knows about it? 😂 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Jype said: How can it be top secret when Fabrizio (and seemingly everyone else) knows about it? 😂 Ok it was bottom secret!! 😂 OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said: I am 100% confident "no means no" hasn't been said, that's what you say to a 4 year old asking for sweets or chocolate, not a 100+million deal. And even then in my house, it still usually means yes in the end! YorkshireBlue, Costa19 and Vesper 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vesper said: Large drop off in quality from Enzo I disagree I feel they just need a bigger stage like Enzo did with the World Cup - especially Caqueret why wait until he moves somewhere and has a €70m is or €80m clause when he’s available for €36m now - why was no one bar maybe you calling for Enzo in August I just find it pretty short sighted and funny that when we were linked to Badiashile in the summer people were also calling him pants and no good because we were linked to Gravidol and look how that for us. Edited January 24, 2023 by bluesman2610 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, Superblue said: And even then in my house, it still usually means yes in the end! Isn't that the truth!!! Superblue and Costa19 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blue Armour 4,443 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Would slow your roll a bit before claiming we can compete for everything next season yet. Or even top 4 this year. Likes if Nkunku, Mudryk, Enzo if we get him still not gonna be enough to make us go from where we are now to a championship winning side. And top 4 is still questionable this year either way. It would take a catastrophic collapse from the current top 4 teams. Still huge marks over Potter for me as well. Despite a bit of an improvement in last few games still been not enough improvement overall. Not necessarily catastrophic. Newcastle is one of the sides up there. What it would really take is great form from our side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,464 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Vesper and OhForAGreavsie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheHulk 2,464 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Take the ban and get him Todd, we're out of CL anyways next season. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 18,927 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 There is no “try again” for Enzo. It’s pay the clause or don’t pay the clause. Costa19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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