OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: Talk about a player that's completely wasted his career. At least Thiago Silva managed to get out in time to save his. I am sorry but this is one of the worst takes I’ve ever seen. Ever. Firstly, Thiago Silva - he won next to NOTHING in Italy, Brazil, Portugal and Russia prior to going to Paris. Then won 23 trophies there. Paris enhanced his career if anything in terms of winning trophies. So it hardly saved his career leaving, if anything it took his career to the next level making the move. Verratti also close to being one of the most decorated Italian football players of all time with around 30 domestic trophy wins as well as winning the Euros at international level so again, to say a career wasted particularly playing for Paris, couldn't be further wrong. Was playing in Serie B also prior to the move. Just an extremely arrogant take, yes Ligue 1 isn't outstanding team for team but look at the players who play there and have played there in the last 10 years. I think a lot of players see Paris as a much more attractive option than most PL teams barring City and Liverpool too. And its hardly a surprise either, look at their squad, how many trophies they win. Players want to win. And in Paris they win. Edited December 29, 2022 by OneMoSalah Vesper and Hashishi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hashishi said: They are defending themselves in front of their fans. Putting all pressure on Enzo so he will be the bad guy. Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Vesper said: tell that to Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, Marquinhos, Donnarumma, Hakimi, Nuno Mendes, etc Donnarumma I do not rate that highly as he went from farmer league to farmer league. Neymar and Messi already proved their worth at Barca and are collecting their fat paycheck. Hakimi is undoubtedly the best RB in the world apart from maybe James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, milka said: Man It's the hope that kills you. Has to be the most expensive Premier League signing if this happens surely? If true Benfica would be mad to turn this down given they are what, generating a 1000% profit? Fernandez' stock will never be this high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 There is still no chance a January deal happens. Enzo Fernandez is 'very inclined' to leave Benfica in January to join #Chelsea. [via @Record_Portugal] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,108 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: I wouldn't say wasted, maybe made his career easier? Shall we say. Not sure it's a hard one tbh I was not the one who said 'he has completely wasted his career' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Vesper said: I was not the one who said 'he has completely wasted his career' I know, hence the quote I was agreeing with u..... Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,108 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hashishi said: Donnarumma I do not rate that highly as he went from farmer league to farmer league. Neymar and Messi already proved their worth at Barca and are collecting their fat paycheck. Hakimi is undoubtedly the best RB in the world apart from maybe James. Serie A is not a farmers league, EOS I have seen every league but the EPL called a farmers league, including Serie A, the Bundesliga, La Liga, and Ligue 1 pure arrogance and Anglo-chauvinism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,108 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Just now, YorkshireBlue said: I know, hence the quote I was agreeing with u..... fair enough YorkshireBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,108 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Man It's the hope that kills you. Has to be the most expensive Premier League signing if this happens surely? If true Benfica would be mad to turn this down given they are what, generating a 1000% profit? Fernandez' stock will never be this high. these do not count add-ons, as the Eden transfer was FAR higher, we ended up getting around €150m or so (£137m) The only major add-on he missed was for winning the Ballon d'Or, which of course, he never came close to there Coutinho was higher too than listed the only 2 in the top 15 that panned out for the amount paid was Mbappe and then CR7 to Real Madrid Edited December 29, 2022 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) Chelsea is positioned as the team most interested in buying Enzo Fernández and wants to activate the exit clause. This guy is tier 1 for Argentinians Edited December 29, 2022 by Hashishi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,721 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 51 minutes ago, Hashishi said: Sigh. Really hoping this time we actually get what the press claim we're in for. Too many times this year, we've been strongly linked with superstars, only for things to end up taking a complete U-turn. If this keeps happening, it will feel like the club is only instigating these rumors just to keep the fan base appeased, and not actually accomplishing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Pele just passed away OhForAGreavsie and bluesman2610 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Most likely scenario to me feels like a Nkunku sort of deal. Buy him now, have everything signed, and then he stays at Benfica until the summer to help them in the CL and their domestic title push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, Pizy said: Most likely scenario to me feels like a Nkunku sort of deal. Buy him now, have everything signed, and then he stays at Benfica until the summer to help them in the CL and their domestic title push. Something needs to be tied down now in fear of Liverpool and United’s new ownership money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: No man, don't do this to us, don't resign Kante and especially Jorginho. dimmas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 35 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Something needs to be tied down now in fear of Liverpool and United’s new ownership money. I agree. Smart to lock down our absolute priority targets ahead of time even if they can’t come in right away. Laylabelle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: Something needs to be tied down now in fear of Liverpool and United’s new ownership money. Latest is that Liverpool changed stance and will only to partial sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Latest is that Liverpool changed stance and will only to partial sell. Yes but things can change if new ownership comes in and put in a massive investment towards player transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pizy said: Reports on the same day that we’re trying to extend both J5 and Kante. That’s actually extremely surprising. Not sure how it makes sense that we’re after another midfielder then unless AT LEAST 1 leaves this coming month. Seen some people saying this 'contract offer' for Jorginho is the very same one that's been on his table for months and not a new offer. So far Jorginho hasn't accepted it so clearly he's not exactly happy with the terms being offered but the club haven't rescinded the old offer either. His agent has always loved talking to the media and now that he can officially start negotiating with other clubs in January it's not a bad idea for him to drum up some interest elsewhere by saying he already has an offer from Chelsea. If someone else is looking to sign him they may get the idea they need to act fast and offer something over the odds. At the moment I'd be quite surprised if Jorginho stayed beyond the current season. Before today the same went for Kante as well but now Ornstein is saying a new deal is close, though still not completed. Without knowing the exact terms (wages, contract length) being talked about I can't really comment on whether I think it's a good idea to extend Kante or not. A multi-year extension with top wages would definitely be a shit deal but getting Kante tied up on a 1-2 year contract either on more modest wages or having his salary incentivised by bonuses for the amount of games he plays (or is at the very least available for) would sound much better from the club's perspective. Still love Kante as a player and think he can be very a useful asset to have in the squad but his injury worries mean we can't exactly keep relying on him throughout a full season so some new key replacements are definitely needed. If Kante stays I hope it will be in more of a squad role capacity rather than someone we're really counting on. Edited December 29, 2022 by Jype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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