OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Vesper said: I thought he played well overall I arrived in the 9th minute so I haven't yet seen that part of the the game. In what I did see, Denis had his moments but he frequently wanted more time than he had and gave the ball away a few times. One square ball across our D in the second half was picked off and led to danger. I watched the game in the company of a young Australian coach of Irish decent whose Irish passport allows him to be here working for his B licence. We each raved about our memories of Denis at Gladbach, but we also agreed that yesterday was not a good outing for him. Well before he was subbed we knew it was coming even though we hoped it wouldn't. I really want GP to give Denis a run of games to get up to speed, because I still believe there is a player there. Edited December 28, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie Stats, bigbluewillie and Vesper 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, Vesper said: we are never going to agree One day the truth will come out. 🙂 I am not diminishing Marina's power. I just recognise the boundaries of her autonomy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: If true, Enzo needs to push for it because if we activate his release clause and he wants the move, nothing Benfica can do. I think it's perhaps 60/40 he turns us down, unless he is a long time Chels fan, which I doubt We shall see, we are going to have to sell him hard on the project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: One day the truth will come out. 🙂 I am not diminishing Marina's power. I just recognise the boundaries of her autonomy. take solace I am not blaming her at all, zero blame, for De Bruyne leaving with no buyback, lolol she had nowhere near the power then, was not involved anywhere in that area Edited December 28, 2022 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Arsenal have £57m bid for Mykhaylo Mudryk rejected by Shakhtar Donetsk... as Ukrainian side hold out for £85m amid interest from several clubs in 21-year-old winger https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11577309/Arsenal-57m-bid-winger-Mykhaylo-Mudryk-rejected-Shakhtar-Donetsk.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: take solace I am not blaming her at all, zero blame, for De Bruyne leaving with no buyback, lolol It's well known that KDB refused a) to go on loan again and b) to accept a binding buyback. Reports vary as to whether there was a sell on clause in the deal which took him to Wolfsburg . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Based on what I’ve seen and read from French supporters, he’ll get eaten alive in this league. Not sure why we can’t recall Colwill and asses in the summer. Enzo didn’t just help Argentina win the WC, he completely transformed their midfield. They played with so much more fluidity and were also strong defensively. He’s doing the same thing at Benfica as well. Don't get me wrong, Enzo is a very good young midfielder but I don't think he transforms our current midfield setup for the price we would have to pay. Stats and OhForAGreavsie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Are we actually linked with a new RB? Like solid links? Because Reece's recurring injury is a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said: Are we actually linked with a new RB? Like solid links? Because Reece's recurring injury is a concern. Still a few days till the window opens. I would expect azpi to play against forest in any case. There isn't enough time to buy a rb and have them settle, unless we throw them in at the deep end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: Don't get me wrong, Enzo is a very good young midfielder but I don't think he transforms our current midfield setup for the price we would have to pay. If he's a good dm and doesn't have the occasional brainfart like jorginho then I think he does. We can play 433 or 4231 or 4222 or any other formation with 4 defenders as we don't have to pander to jorginhos lack of defensive ability. Put another dm hybrid like kone or caicedo next to him and suddenly we are defensively sound again and teams won't cut through our midfield like a hot knife through butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, Vesper said: take solace I am not blaming her at all, zero blame, for De Bruyne leaving with no buyback, lolol she had nowhere near the power then, was not involved anywhere in that area She was at fault for rudi and christensen leaving for sure though. Any other team would've had those contract negotiations wrapped up or sold them 2 seasons before the contract ends. The problem was Roman had no problem with spending on replacements, but the actual problem was it happened in a window with no quality CBs availible. She had little to no sporting knowledge which is why Lukaku was signed and for such a high price. At the end of the day she was just a business woman (albeit very good at negotiations) but failed in the sporting aspect sometimes. Its good to have females in these roles though, it brings good PR for the club, like when we had Eva Carneiro (only reason I hate mourinho is for calling her a b*tch for doing her job) running onto the pitch every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, chelsea_4_eva said: Are we actually linked with a new RB? Like solid links? Because Reece's recurring injury is a concern. been linked with Dumfries for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 apparently the extra money (above the €120m release clause, which is actually a buyout clause) for Enzo is to cover his tax liability as he has to trigger the clause, the club then gives him the money legally to buy out his contract see this (it talks about Spain, but Portugal apparently has similar laws) https://anfieldindex.com/8967/clause-what-clause-luis-suarez-story.html Despite what popular media tells us, there is a difference between the two. Buy-out clauses are included in every contract in Spain. These clauses are peculiar in that it is the player (the party to that contract) that has to pay the fee. This means that a club will have to transfer the funds to the player who will then have to buy out his contract. In doing so the player incurs extra tax liability making an already complex transfer more expensive for the buying club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vegetable 830 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Those prices are mad, mind-boggling what happened to football economy. Don't want to be pessimistic, but looks like it goes much easier to Pool or City to make an impactful move for peanuts, whereas we will be after 4-5 100 million + players and there's no guarantee it will overhaul us, let alone we've overpaid for pretty much everyone in the previous window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Who is the most reliable Portuguese media? Record, O Jogo, Jornal Noticias, a bola etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 O Jogo say he may even not be involved Friday v Braga. If that is the case, Benfica are probably wanting to accept, or about to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said: O Jogo say he may even not be involved Friday v Braga. If that is the case, Benfica are probably wanting to accept, or about to... Is he even back in training? Kova and Ziyech aren't back until today either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Is any reliable source saying Enzo to Chelsea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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