Vesper 30,195 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: Loan is not the worst option at their age, but given our lack of quality in terms of depth, we could've retained the services of a couple of them at least till end of the season. Fofana especially. agree on Datro, the other two need consistent playing time I am super happy with teh young players we are buying hopefully we can close out Arsen Zakharyan soon, and Youssoufa Moukoko too Blue Armour and Hamilton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Vesper said: two sort of different type of players Martín Zubimendi is almost exclusively a deep holding DMF who almost never scores (4 total topflight goals in 116 games). like a shorter Busquets with more pace but less finesse He is a very solid player, I rate him. Enzo is like Bellingham to a point, as he can play anywhere in the MF, and already has 17 top-flight goals in 118 games, despite also playing at times as a deep playmaker I expect he will become a 8 to 12 goals a season (all comps) scorer (maybe more if he plays more of an attacking role), besides his creativity and defensive nous We are missing this profile of player at the club. Could get away with it to a degree when Kante played regularly, but we're far too easy to play against and through. If we are to switch to a back 4 formation long term then it's essential we have a top DM sitting in front protecting it. I like Enzo and I love Bellingham but ultimately for me you still need a defensive minded player playing alongside them unless you're prepared to curb their attacking instincts and as a result remove a large facet to their game. Every man and their dog could see for England how much Gerrard and Lampard needed a midfielder to sit deep and allow them both to play their natural games and I feel in Enzo and Bellingham, the same would be required to get the most out of them. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 If Pool are going for Enzo, does that mean no Bellingham for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said: If Pool are going for Enzo, does that mean no Bellingham for them? I think Bellingham may go to Real. He is the only superstar that will be available this summer. Other option for himnwould be City. I don't think Liverpool have the money for him anyway Edited December 24, 2022 by Hashishi Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Have we spoken to him about our "vision" yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Superblue said: We are missing this profile of player at the club. Could get away with it to a degree when Kante played regularly, but we're far too easy to play against and through. If we are to switch to a back 4 formation long term then it's essential we have a top DM sitting in front protecting it. I like Enzo and I love Bellingham but ultimately for me you still need a defensive minded player playing alongside them unless you're prepared to curb their attacking instincts and as a result remove a large facet to their game. Every man and their dog could see for England how much Gerrard and Lampard needed a midfielder to sit deep and allow them both to play their natural games and I feel in Enzo and Bellingham, the same would be required to get the most out of them. Romeo Lavia would be great for that role too I am sure that is why we tried to buy him last summer, late late in the game OhForAGreavsie and Superblue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: Romeo Lavia would be great for that role too I am sure that is why we tried to buy him last summer, late late in the game There must be a reason man City let him go. I don't want to pick up leftovers after the top team. That's what teams in Italy do with juventus. That's what arse and spuds used to do with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hashishi said: There must be a reason man City let him go. I don't want to pick up leftovers after the top team. That's what teams in Italy do with juventus. That's what arse and spuds used to do with us. he is NOT Citeh leftovers, smdh is Musiala Chels leftovers? roflmaooooooooooooooo didi007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Hashishi said: There must be a reason man City let him go. I don't want to pick up leftovers after the top team. That's what teams in Italy do with juventus. That's what arse and spuds used to do with us. Not leftovers I think. Seems to me as the same reason Livramento left. Clubs cannot tie down youngsters to long-term deals so there is a high chance of players switching to get playtime. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Raphinha has been a bust at Barca, they may be looking to sell him HARD PASS Johnnyeye and guddy69 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 bluesman2610 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Vesper said: Raphinha has been a bust at Barca, they may be looking to sell him HARD PASS Oh, who would expect this 🙃 But hey, at least we humiliated ourselves over mediocre player, who never wanted to come here. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turgi 71 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Vesper said: What's our system? Creating xG of Southampton? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,326 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Olmo reminds me of Mount. Both often play on the left side and with no pace they just look weird there. Overrated. Hard pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Looking very much like we are looking to replace Jorginho with Rice in summer 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Rice feels inevitable and I’d be delighted with the signing. And he feels like a player who would come regardless of whether we finish in the top 4. We’re also fortunate that most of our PL rivals either have just recently signed expensive DM’s or have other midfield targets. City just signed Phillips and also have Rodri, United signed Casemiro, and Liverpool will likely prioritize Bellingham or Enzo. As attractive as Arse may seem currently, I’m not sure they’d pay mega money for Rice and I’m not sure he’d choose them over us if we both bid. Everyone (myself included) assumes that Jorginho will leave but I wouldn’t be surprised if we extended him since Kante is surely off. Maybe a 2-3 years deal as a squad option if he’s fine with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Pizy said: City just signed Phillips and also have Rodri, United signed Casemiro, and Liverpool will likely prioritize Bellingham or Enzo. All of them significantly better than Rice, especially at progressing the ball. Would be absolutely depressing. NikkiCFC and guddy69 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Vesper said: I trust his opinion on this he seems to play in a position we are heavily loaded in though. But much more dynamic than current players that’s for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Ornstein tweet saying we are after an LCB https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1606688944682328068?s=20&t=Q1jeOOoPGdwJzGNt2tpxJA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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