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1 hour ago, Jype said:

They were a Gerrard slip away from winning the PL title a year before

I don't think the facts bear this out.

  • There is no guarantee they would have won that day had Gerrard not miss controlled the ball.
  • The title was still in their hands after that game but they blew a lead at Crystal Palace and that was that. (Edit: This is wrong. I checked after @Jypecorrected me and found that City were level on points with Liverpool when Pool kicked off at Selhurst Park but the Manchester club's goal difference was nine goals better so the title was out of Liverpool's hands after we beat them. Better and better. 🙂)
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3 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I don't think the facts bear this out.

  • There is no guarantee they would have won that day had Gerrard not miss controlled the ball

True, but chances are they could easily have gotten at least a draw which would already have helped them immensely. 

3 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I don't think the facts bear this out.

  • The title was still in their hands after that game but they blew a lead at Crystal Palace and that was that.

Before the Palace game they were level on points with City but 12 goal worse off in goal difference, there was absolutely no way of realistically catching that in two games so it wasn't really in their hands.

Without the Gerrard slip, assuming they'd have at least drawn, I very much doubt Crystanbul would ever have happened. Losing to us really deflated their motivation levels. 

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1 minute ago, Jype said:

Before the Palace game they were level on points with City but 12 goal worse off in goal difference, there was absolutely no way of realistically catching that in two games so it wasn't really in their hands.

Thanks for the correction. I clearly misremembered the situation.

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6 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Klopp also hasn't finished lower than 4th since the 15-16 season and he broke the Liverpool winning PL curse.  Most of their big signings like Alisson, Van Dijk have paid off. 

If Tuchel finishes outside top 4 this season with the amount of money spent, questions will definitely be raised.  The club has backed him with these signings, there's even rumors that the club wanted Ronaldo to spearhead the new ownership this season but Tuchel declined and was persistent in wanting Aubameyang...even though he was let go on a free by our local rivals.

Yes definitely questions should be asked if the season ends without us making top 4 but the friend I quoted only mentioned the next 4 to 5 matches, hence the reason I responded in that way. Like let's see how the season ends so we can judge things fairly. 

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Just now, Vesper said:

Bellingham is such a baller, watching him now

dog help us if Pool or Citeh get him

Bellingham is an amazing talent. Creative and still resolute. Would be gutted to see him at Liverpool but I fear it’s inevitable 
 

What I find most interesting about dortmunds game is the brilliant football they are playing despite having a poor man’s Lukaku up front in modeste who looks completely useless and isolated 

 

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