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2 hours ago, blahblahblah said:

Hard to fight a nice story mate. People have build up narratives around TT and Lukaku. Literally absolved TT of any and all blame. 

Or people have built up the narrative TT is the only person to blame, all depends which side of the nut house window your looking through.

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14 hours ago, Kong said:

Werner has been an absolute flopp here no q can deny that a CF that doesn't score isn't worth keeping.

Lukaku 8 goals for 100m (the only 1 on this list TT was in charge we signed)

Puli really? His injury stat is his most impressive here

Cho this useless cunt should of been sold when BM come knocking.

Ziyech has done absolutely fuck all since he's been here aswell.

every signing save for Werner I was against (and Werner was not my preferred CF ever, but I at least expected him to be able to hit the side of a barn)

plus I wanted to sell CHO to the Bavarian cow milkers for their £40m bid

I got so much stick for calling Puli a Bruce Buck special marketing gimmick

did my typical long post with stats showing he was not a scorer and likely would not become one here

I lost my shit when we did not move for Vlahovic or Osimhen over Donkeylukaka

I do not trust dutch league players not named de Ligt or De Jongand reckned ziyech would not only be a bust, but we bought him when he was too old and when he flopped we would take an even bigger piss bath

I said all along that Håaland and Mbappe were forever pipe dreams, broke down the money involved for Håland and showed that it would destroy us and we still would not win the league last year (I fully still believe that)

and I was warning for ages about Rudiger contract, long before the ass sniffer press started to bay like poodles with worms

and not just his, everyone knows I have been raging for ages (I lost my SHIT when we did not sell Snake when we still had leverage and time, and that was before I even joined here) about Matina's shit contractual management

I also warned about the blowback from the 2018 Skripal poisonings that we were in dire straights eventually of having the club seized from Roman due to his Putin connections

 

I wish to fuck I was dead wrong on everything, but alas, I have become Cassandra in blue

 

(Cassandra was a Trojan priestess dedicated to the god Apollo and fated by him to utter true prophecies but never to be believed

ironically Cassandra was raped by Ajax The Lesser for her troubles (she sussed out the Trojan Horse, but of course was not believed) although Athena and Poseidon killed Ajax (whose body washed up on Mykonos, so party party, lolol)

 

Cassandra and Ajax

800px-Solomon_Ajax_and_Cassandra.jpg

 

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Btw, have Leicester even signed anyone yet? They’ve had a horrible start to the season, have signed no one, and I’ve seen LOTS of their supporters saying that Rodgers has grown stale and should go. Add to that the fact that reports have suggested the club is in really poor financial shape. And yet they still reject £70m from us? Kind of incredible.

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3 hours ago, LAM09 said:

There's plenty to back it up, actually. This is something I've mentioned on multiple occasions and don't have the urge to repeat the same things.

I'll just say this - Tuchel (in your opinion of how things work) went for Haaland from the get go, but the club was ultimately priced out of any potential transfer; he then decided to go left field & went for someone with a less than stellar past in the EPL.

Please answer that conundrum so I have a clearer picture of the ins and outs.

Club and Tuchel both wanted Haaland for sure, I have no doubts about that. I wanted nothing to do with Lukaku, but a good majority fans still wanted him here. The media overwhelmingly backed him to be a success. 
 

This narrative that he was forced on him, is only because he was a complete bust. Haaland and Lukaku were viewed the top strikers available, they couldn’t get Haaland so they want out to get the next available option for Tuchel because signing a striker was priority for him. 

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39 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Club and Tuchel both wanted Haaland for sure, I have no doubts about that. I wanted nothing to do with Lukaku, but a good majority fans still wanted him here. The media overwhelmingly backed him to be a success. 
 

This narrative that he was forced on him, is only because he was a complete bust. Haaland and Lukaku were viewed the top strikers available, they couldn’t get Haaland so they want out to get the next available option for Tuchel because signing a striker was priority for him. 

I disagree with the overall notion here, but that's opinions.

I feel somewhat more strongly about is having both Haaland and Lukaku in the same sentence. 😉 

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4 hours ago, Jype said:

Looks like a loan to Bayer Leverkusen for CHO. Should be good move for the lad himself, interesting to see how he does in the Bundesliga.

His pathway will be blocked by Nkunku or Leao next season. With only 2 years left in his contract, CHO should just leave permanently. 

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3 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Club and Tuchel both wanted Haaland for sure, I have no doubts about that. I wanted nothing to do with Lukaku, but a good majority fans still wanted him here. The media overwhelmingly backed him to be a success. 
 

This narrative that he was forced on him, is only because he was a complete bust. Haaland and Lukaku were viewed the top strikers available, they couldn’t get Haaland so they want out to get the next available option for Tuchel because signing a striker was priority for him. 

Exactly this. We might not get the manager his plan A everytime but we can go back and verify across manager and across time that we have got the players the manager has wanted.

Jose2.0 - cesc, Costa. Then he wanted Pogba with his effiel tower remarks which never materialized

Conte - his list of serie a players in Morata, emerson, Alonso etc

Sarri - jorgi, kepa, higuain (loan).

No way would a club buy someone for a 100m without the manager's absolute and complete backing and go ahead. 

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2 hours ago, blahblahblah said:

A guy can dream. You keep writing your lists of players knowing very well we won't sign them. It's the same for me. 

We get it, you don't like Tuchel. I understand the whole 'push an agenda slash trolling' persona you've decided to bring here but let's have it right, whatever opinion you have of TT, which you are fully entitled too, the man deserves far more respect from our fans considering what he has achieved with the squad he inherited. The man won the CL with Werner and Havertz in attack. Pep hasn't with a far greater attacking force... 

Out of curiosity, who would you rather be the man to take us forward? 

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19 minutes ago, DDA said:

We get it, you don't like Tuchel. I understand the whole 'push an agenda slash trolling' persona you've decided to bring here but let's have it right, whatever opinion you have of TT, which you are fully entitled too, the man deserves far more respect from our fans considering what he has achieved with the squad he inherited. The man won the CL with Werner and Havertz in attack. Pep hasn't with a far greater attacking force... 

Out of curiosity, who would you rather be the man to take us forward? 

Are we really going to discredit our own players just to big up TT? The season we got Werner, Kai and ziyech, we were the envy of the footballing world, and let's not mince words around it. Kai was one of the, if not THE most sought after young player.

Werner was sought after by none other than Liverpool, ziyech's exploits in the CL were well known. Just because TT has not been able to get the best out of the above mentioned players does not lessen their quality (even if they have their shortcomings). Again, to reiterate, getting those 3 talented attackers had us be the envy of the footballing world.

Also, let's be clear, i don't dislike TT. But i don't think he has done anywhere near a "great job". Just look at the post you wrote and the context in which we write about Werner or Kai like they were some mid table evertonians who we got for free. Similarly, in the Lukaku case, TT is absolved of all blame while the board gets it all, like seriously? We would buy a 100m striker for a manager who won the CL without his go ahead and acceptance, seriously? THAT'S the narrative we are going forward with?

You can call me a troll, that's your opinion. I am taking a stance and speaking my mind and not afraid to do that. Just because my opinion does not match yours, and my pov does not match the "narratives", it does not make me a troll. 

For me, the CL triumph should not overshadow the failure to improve/integrate some of the best available talents in the world, a poor attacking structure, and very very mediocre record in the PL (specially given the money spent).

Pep likes to shoot himself in the foot and overthink shit like not playing fernandinho in the cl final, that should not be the metric by which i will judge a manager. He has built a dynasty and a winning machine. Obviously they have their own issues be it a mental block in cl or whatever. We took a decade under RA to win the CL despite having one of the best teams and squads from 03-10. Infact if you ask me, the 2012 CL win was with one of the weakest squads we have had since 03. Might be debatable, but that aging squad was not supposed to do what it did. Meanwhile some of our best ones fell just short in the semis or a penalty kick away. Again, it takes nothing away from those teams, they were great teams as is pep's city right now (unfortunately) and he needs to get a lot of credit for it, cl win or not. 

We were supposed to become a dynasty to with such young talents around, instead we seem to be trending in the complete opposite direction. Most/majority of us seem to think that our players are shit, i don't, sue me for it (or keep calling me a troll). I think we are severely underperforming given the talent at our disposal, and i feel the reason for it is the manager who refuses to address far more important issues like a DM rather than buying a new attack outright. 

AS for replacements, i have already mentioned the names twice or thrice (infact there are multiple posts of people calling me out on it, have a glance). Let's not forget, when TT was rumored, a lot of people were unsure about him too. So let's keep that in mind.

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