Chelsea Transfers

[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

12 hours ago, Pizy said:

After seeing him firsthand, Klopp will probably push their board to sign him and they’ll have yet another superstar attacker.

But Nuñez doesn’t really seem like the type we should be after. We already have Kai and Mase playing more centrally. We need a wide player.

He's also very average on the ball, finds himself offsides more often than not but has a great work ethic and ability to get in behind the defence. Hmmm....sounds familiar.

Personally think we should stay well clear. 

[Strike 7,217]

Will be just one of Gnabry, Dembele or Raphinha
 

[chelsea_4_eva 1,157]

Agree, a clinical goalscoring wide forward is what we need. But how in the hell are we going to shift Lukaku...

[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

42 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

Agree, a clinical goalscoring wide forward is what we need. But how in the hell are we going to shift Lukaku...

Loan with option. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

1 hour ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

Agree, a clinical goalscoring wide forward is what we need. But how in the hell are we going to shift Lukaku...

Swap deal, loan with option/obligation, or straight sell. Both PSG and Atletico are in need for a new striker this summer. 

[Superblue 6,370]

No one has an idea yet how the new owners will approach transfer windows moving forward but I do expect whoever of the 4 to win to invest this summer. 

There will be immediate scepticism over new ownership given how spoiled the club has been by Roman's investment and I think from a PR perspective, new owners will want to look at bringing in one or two players to help push the team on. New contracts for Tuchel and Rudiger I would expect to also curry favour with the fanbase. Perhaps if some players like Lukaku can be moved on too, then even bigger investment may take place.

 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

11 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

He's also very average on the ball, finds himself offsides more often than not but has a great work ethic and ability to get in behind the defence. Hmmm....sounds familiar.

Personally think we should stay well clear. 

I've only watched a YouTube compilation of Nunez but formed the opinion from it that I don't want this bloke at Chelsea. His shortcomings are obvious in that video and all of those ludicrous step overs reek of an ordinary player trying to pretend he's special. He lacks body control. His movement reminds me of what we used to call 'lanky'. Just awkward and unconvincing. Complete no as far as I'm concerned.

I had a very similar reaction to Nunez's video as I did to Adyemi's a few months ago in that I stopped watching before the end. In Adyemi's case this was because it was clear he had the talent so there was nothing more to be learnt from a highlights package. To judge the player properly it would be time to move on to all touches videos and full game coverage. I stopped watching Nunez's highlights because it seems to me that he does not have the talent. If the lad was coming through the academy a case could be made for adding him to the squad and giving him a chance to latch on. I'll be very disappointed however if the new owners spend money on him.

Edited April 15, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

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8 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

No one has an idea yet how the new owners will approach transfer windows moving forward but I do expect whoever of the 4 to win to invest this summer. 

 

I think its becoming clear that the first window will be Tuchel's decision-making

[Vesper 28,767]

with his brace last night against a really solid Atalanta side, Christopher Nkunku now has 30 goals as a MFer (plus 18 assists)

only 2 behind Bruno Penendes' all time topflight Euro record for a MFer (Lamps had the old record before Penendes at 27)

and he has done it in 1000 less minutes so far than Penendes and in a FAR stronger league

he likely has 10 games left, 8 at worst (he would have 14 left, 12 at worst, but the Bundesliga only has 18 teams, so only a 34 game season)

[Pizy 18,368]

51 minutes ago, Vesper said:

with his brace last night against a really solid Atalanta side, Christopher Nkunku now has 30 goals as a MFer (plus 18 assists)

only 2 behind Bruno Penendes' all time topflight Euro record for a MFer (Lamps had the old record before Penendes at 27)

and he has done it in 1000 less minutes so far than Penendes and in a FAR stronger league

he likely has 10 games left, 8 at worst (he would have 14 left, 12 at worst, but the Bundesliga only has 18 teams, so only a 34 game season)

Very interested in him. Looks like a beast. But is he having a Werner or Sancho like season where he puts up insane stats in Germany and then looks mediocre when he steps up to a big club?

We should certainly be looking at him.

[Vesper 28,767]

22 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Very interested in him. Looks like a beast. But is he having a Werner or Sancho like season where he puts up insane stats in Germany and then looks mediocre when he steps up to a big club?

We should certainly be looking at him.

well, he is producing in Europe as well (hat trick v Citeh for instance)

plus 3 goals, 3 assists versus Bayern and Borussia Dortmund

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

with his brace last night against a really solid Atalanta side, Christopher Nkunku now has 30 goals as a MFer (plus 18 assists)

only 2 behind Bruno Penendes' all time topflight Euro record for a MFer (Lamps had the old record before Penendes at 27)

and he has done it in 1000 less minutes so far than Penendes and in a FAR stronger league

he likely has 10 games left, 8 at worst (he would have 14 left, 12 at worst, but the Bundesliga only has 18 teams, so only a 34 game season)

That record is dodgy as hell for various reasons. In the golden boot race, goals in portugal only count  with factor 1.5 so i don't really see those 32 goals in 18/19 Liga Dross measuring up.

Moreover, both Penandes and Nkunku were at times deployed as forwards (for penandes that is the case in portugal and england) , so not sure you can count them unequivocally as midfielders unlike Lampard for whom the case is clear.

I mean most goals from midfield in a season is not even an official statistical record anyway but for me those goals have to be actually scored by a player who plays that season in midfield (duh). So that Lampard record still looks pretty much intact for me.

Most number 10s who score high numbers are deployed well higher up the pitch than Lampard which is why his record is so remarkable. If you count no10/forward hybrid roles like Penandes and Nkunku and also count shit leagues, Zico would be the clear record holder, scored more than 40 goals for flamengo in the 70ies in multiple seasons.

 

[Vesper 28,767]

4 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

That record is dodgy as hell for various reasons. In the golden boot race, goals in portugal only count  with factor 1.5 so i don't really see those 32 goals in 18/19 Liga Dross measuring up.

Moreover, both Penandes and Nkunku were at times deployed as forwards (for penandes that is the case in portugal and england) , so not sure you can count them unequivocally as midfielders unlike Lampard for whom the case is clear.

I mean most goals from midfield in a season is not even an official statistical record anyway but for me those goals have to be actually scored by a player who plays that season in midfield (duh). So that Lampard record still looks pretty much intact for me.

Most number 10s who score high numbers are deployed well higher up the pitch than Lampard which is why his record is so remarkable. If you count no10/forward hybrid roles like Penandes and Nkunku and also count shit leagues, Zico would be the clear record holder, scored more than 40 goals for flamengo in the 70ies in multiple seasons.

 

I did say Euro record

 

ZICO 1979 - One of the most impressive years in modern football history

🏟 56 Games
⚽️ 70 Goals

- Scored 52.6% of all team goals

- Scored in 39 games - 70%

- 4,932 minutes - Goal every 70.4 mins

42 wins (75%) - 09 draws - 05 defeats

📈6th most goals ever scored in 1 season

Only Pelé (x2), Messi, Müller & Romário have ever scored more.

 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,476]

Don’t tease me PSG

 

 

[Superblue 6,370]

Whatever we all think of Lukaku, he still holds a lot of weight across the continent as a top striker and goal scorer still in his prime.

I think the only thing which may deter some suitors is his wages. I guess in the grand scheme of football his wages aren't beyond a joke, but they do eliminate some options unless Rom himself is prepared to forego some of that pay packet to move on. 

I think it's clear as day now he isn't going to be first choice over Havertz whilst Tuchel is here and I don't see Tuchel leaving any time soon unless there is a monumental cock up in the new ownership so it really will be in his court in a world cup year and probably with another 3, maybe 4 years left at the top level does he accept being backup or does he accept the Chelsea move hasn't worked out and he moves on.

I think one way or another he'll move in the summer. 

[Pizy 18,368]

As he did in Serie A, Rom would probably score 30 goals in Ligue 1 at PSG. Would be incredible to offload him there.

[Vesper 28,767]

Kounde was just shocking in the Sevilla collapse

up 2 nil at home in the 2nd half versus Real Madrid, and was at fault in Benzema (of course) scoring the game winner in the 92nd minute

left him unmarked in the box in open play, ffs, was also partially at fault in the Nacho goal in the 82nd minute and the first RM goal as well

Sevilla lost 2 - 3

Kounde is a ball watcher and he has poor positioning

[Superblue 6,370]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Kounde was just shocking in the Sevilla collapse

up 2 nil at home in the 2nd half versus Real Madrid, and was at fault in Benzema (of course) scoring the game winner in the 92nd minute

left him unmarked in the box in open play, ffs, was also partially at fault in the Nacho goal in the 82nd minute and the first RM goal as well

Sevilla lost 2 - 3

Kounde is a ball watcher and he has poor positioning

Personally if we can get Rudiger signed up, I don't think we are in desperate need of a new centre back.

Losing Christensen will be a blow but Chalobah will benefit from the experience of this season and I wouldn't be surprised if Tuchel kept Colwill to then play the Chalobah role next season. Across Rudiger, Silva, Azpi, Chalobah, Sarr, Colwill and James if needed too we have more than enough options to roll with.

I personally would prefer to bring in a top centre midfielder this summer to facilitate the transition from Kante and Jorginho, and look at a centre back the following summer.