Pizy 18,903 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Giroud and Tammy out, Haaland and Broja in. Sounds good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,381 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pizy said: Giroud and Tammy out, Haaland and Broja in. Sounds good to me. 700kpw is not happening. Only PSG can afford him. Haaland appointing Raiola convinces me his only ‘dream move’ is who ever offers the fattest wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Well if they rate Rice at £80m+ does that mean we can rate Tammy at £65m+? Milan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: Not really helping his case when he’s giving shit like Barkley and Bakayoko a shot. I reiterate, it’s Haaland or stick with Tammy: I am not really a fan of either of those players, but isn't it better he is giving them a shot rather than just discarding them and targeting another player who could become like them in 1-2 years time? In my opinion, we have plenty of loan rangers and academy boys that can fill the squad roles (bar GK2 and CF1) that I do not want to see us going out and laying out £25m+ and probably £90k+ a week on players like Adama. Personally, when we are shifting academy boys for £20m+ plus a pop after minimal amount of games, it is kind of a no brainer. I agree that Tammy should stay if there is no Håland but he really isn't a great fit for TT's style. I can see a situation where if good money comes in the club take it as he only has two years left and there is a big danger he rides the bench all season, at which point his value goes through the floor. Same situation applies to Zouma, although he has the benefit of playing in a position where we have players on the pitch at any given time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,381 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, King Kante said: I am not really a fan of either of those players, but isn't it better he is giving them a shot rather than just discarding them and targeting another player who could become like them in 1-2 years time? In my opinion, we have plenty of loan rangers and academy boys that can fill the squad roles (bar GK2 and CF1) that I do not want to see us going out and laying out £25m+ and probably £90k+ a week on players like Adama. Personally, when we are shifting academy boys for £20m+ plus a pop after minimal amount of games, it is kind of a no brainer. I agree that Tammy should stay if there is no Håland but he really isn't a great fit for TT's style. I can see a situation where if good money comes in the club take it as he only has two years left and there is a big danger he rides the bench all season, at which point his value goes through the floor. Same situation applies to Zouma, although he has the benefit of playing in a position where we have players on the pitch at any given time. The French CM’s we’ve been linked with are all quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: The French CM’s we’ve been linked with are all quality. I cannot say if that is true or not as I haven't watched them enough. However, I remember when we brought Baka and everyone said he was quality when I had actually watched him and thought he was sh*t. So, are they actually better than what Baka was at the same age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,381 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, King Kante said: I cannot say if that is true or not as I haven't watched them enough. However, I remember when we brought Baka and everyone said he was quality when I had actually watched him and thought he was sh*t. So, are they actually better than what Baka was at the same age? Yes. These lot are Messi in comparison to Bakayoko in terms of technical quality. tchouameni and boubacar Edited July 19, 2021 by MoroccanBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Pizy said: What else would it be other than money? There’s no chance clubs like PSG are bigger or more prestigious that Chelsea. They offer players double in wages than we do. That’s it. So no, I’m not confident at all that if we fail to sign Haaland this summer we’ll be able to lure him next year. But that’s not because we are a mid tier club or something. It’s because we don’t offer mammoth wages compared to the state funded clubs. Is the wages etc offered not part of the pulling power? How can our pulling power be high if we don't offer as much wages compared to the other clubs? We used to blow clubs off with Roman's financial muscle when he first came and now we're complaining about others blowing us out by doing the same to us. So you don't think we have to offer mammoth wages to Haaland if we sign him this year? He, Raiola, his dad, his camp know that they can get A LOT of money if they move next year and they can easily demand the same kind of money from us this year. Otherwise, am sure they are willing to bide their time for one more season at Dortmund, especially when they haven't made any noise about leaving Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Blues Forever said: Am assuming that ExWhu fella said it in a podcast or somewhere else because I don't see that info on his Twitter feed? Also, are West Ham assuming that we'll drop our asking price for Abraham if we sign a striker? What if we ended up not signing one? Then what? At least we have some strikers at our disposal but they don't. So am not sure if they can wait long when their need is arguably more urgent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jas said: Am assuming that ExWhu fella said it in a podcast or somewhere else because I don't see that info on his Twitter feed? Also, are West Ham assuming that we'll drop our asking price for Abraham if we sign a striker? What if we ended up not signing one? Then what? At least we have some strikers at our disposal but they don't. So am not sure if they can wait long when their need is arguably more urgent. Yes, he said this on podcast. West Ham won't wait Tammy forever as there are several alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) Edited July 19, 2021 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Not really helping his case when he’s giving shit like Barkley and Bakayoko a shot. I reiterate, it’s Haaland or stick with Tammy: Just assessing the situation I guess, Baka for sure should be shot with, Barkley is most likely a goner too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Baka for sure should be shot with You want him dead? You are so cruel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 52 minutes ago, Jas said: You want him dead? You are so cruel... Well I am a former Nato soldier, what did you expect 😉 Jokes aside we need getting rid asap Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 If the likes of Simon Johnson and Liam Twomey are to be beloved we’re now approaching that stage of the window where we’re being linked with bargain targets that nobody has ever heard of or are nowhere near the level required. Similar to a few years ago where we were all panicking at being linked with Andy Carroll and Peter Crouch. We’re apparently looking at some 8 foot tall mutant from Stuttgart whose name I can’t even pronounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMBii 0 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 22 hours ago, milka said: Chelsea need 2/3 world class signings we dont need panic buy just for fun to have transfer. Be patient . Chelsea is European Champions . OK Abraham ＋ 100m = Kane 55m = Varane Here we go ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Pizy said: If the likes of Simon Johnson and Liam Twomey are to be beloved we’re now approaching that stage of the window where we’re being linked with bargain targets that nobody has ever heard of or are nowhere near the level required. Similar to a few years ago where we were all panicking at being linked with Andy Carroll and Peter Crouch. We’re apparently looking at some 8 foot tall mutant from Stuttgart whose name I can’t even pronounce. Then doesn't that bring the argument that we should simply do a Klopp/us in 2020 and wait it out if genuine upgrades aren't attainable? For example, if we can't get Haaland is any of our realistic striker options at present less of a risk than playing Broja let alone Havertz? Who knows who will have a breakthrough in the next 12 months, the former himself could be one. Likewise since Hakimi has gone my preference has shifted to promote Livramento. Edited July 19, 2021 by Tomo Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Pizy said: If the likes of Simon Johnson and Liam Twomey are to be beloved we’re now approaching that stage of the window where we’re being linked with bargain targets that nobody has ever heard of or are nowhere near the level required. Similar to a few years ago where we were all panicking at being linked with Andy Carroll and Peter Crouch. We’re apparently looking at some 8 foot tall mutant from Stuttgart whose name I can’t even pronounce. The auto-correct there. 🤣 And so much for your optimism yesterday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, Tomo said: Then doesn't that bring the argument that we should simply do a Klopp/us in 2020 and wait it out if genuine upgrades aren't attainable? For example, if we can't get Haaland is any of our realistic striker options at present less of a risk than playing Broja let alone Havertz? Who knows who will have a breakthrough in the next 12 months, the former himself could be one. Likewise since Hakimi has gone my preference has shifted to promote Livramento. The daily complaints are upstaging the recycled BS transfer rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Hermione said: Personally I hope we get Tchoumani and call it a summer, I feel like missed the boat with some attainable targets like Sancho, Varane which would've improved us and make up for the lack of a world class striker, hope we don't panic buy for the sake of it. I really feel that Varane will be outed if Utd sign him. I think he's overrated since he's been playing next to Ramos his whole life. Put him next to Maguire and his true talent will have to show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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