OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Thor said: I don't get the hate for Traore. Saw the same thing for Douglas Costa prior to him going to Bayern, where people were saying he isn't good enough, and doesn't do enough on the pitch. Traore has never played in a team that is great at keeping the ball, gives him opportunity to link up properly, nor make the most of his talents. he has the ability to beat 4 or 5 players in a run and spark attacks on his own. Not only that, when he does get past people, he will be distributing to top class players, and not the hacks he is used to playing with. Speed kills in this league. Traore is like a tank with a Ferrari engine. No one is saying he is coming here to be first choice, but he is ideal as a second option off the bench for a team like us, or any top flight team. He has been double marked all season on that sad team, and he would get a lot more freedom on a team like ours. Would be a very solid buy as a backup for cheap. I think a rounded view of Traore would require consideration of the implications of what you say here. There is a reason why he doesn't play play for a top side despite having the fantastic physical attributes you describe. Attributes which must be enormously attractive to any coach yet still there is virtually no interest from the better clubs when Traore becomes available. Any club which decides to spend money in order to discover that reason for themselves better not try to look surprised when they find out what everyone else knows already. Lastly, he has been on the books of a big club. They let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,164 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Why does everyone want to sign Eduardo Camavinga? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, R2D2 said: I'd take the risk on this guy over Lukaku anyday of the week He is the low risk option. Personally, if our only option is Lukaku at over £60m, I would take Silva. At worst he doesn't do well and becomes a CF2 / gets sold on. However, with a €35m buyout he isn't a big risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,252 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 No way Chelsea go to Silva. He's a good player but not a Chelsea nevel. No way!!! mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mário César said: No way Chelsea go to Silva. He's a good player but not a Chelsea nevel. No way!!! But if it is €35m for Silva or €100m for Lukaku what do you do? Silva, I agree, isn't good enough to be a CF1 for a top 4 side, however, he probably does get 15 league goals for one. Lukaku however is completely overrated and overpriced. Furthermore, he is 28 so you only get one full sub-30 season out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, King Kante said: But if it is €35m for Silva or €100m for Lukaku what do you do? Silva, I agree, isn't good enough to be a CF1 for a top 4 side, however, he probably does get 15 league goals for one. Lukaku however is completely overrated and overpriced. Furthermore, he is 28 so you only get one full sub-30 season out of him. Sounds reasonable. Silva scored 28 league goals in Bundesliga just like Werner the season before... but Silva needed fewer chances. If we can get him for 35m it would not be the worst deal in world. I have concerns over him bc he appears to be one of these sensitive guys like Werner, torres,morata who need to feel at home apprecaited first yada yada to score. On top of that Bundesliga has become a very striker friendly league like Eredivisie with many teams defending high, leaving spaces behind and a shortage of defensively strong DMs leaving the defence exposed in most games In other news an interesting striker prospect i have been watching, Patson Daka is almost surely going to Liverpool.Only RB Leipzig can still snacht him maybe. Under 30m as well. Edited June 2, 2021 by Magic Lamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,252 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, King Kante said: But if it is €35m for Silva or €100m for Lukaku what do you do? Silva, I agree, isn't good enough to be a CF1 for a top 4 side, however, he probably does get 15 league goals for one. Lukaku however is completely overrated and overpriced. Furthermore, he is 28 so you only get one full sub-30 season out of him. 100M€ Imagine if you fail top4 with Silva and won a league title with Lukaku... The difference is paid with results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just get Lautauro Martinez....that guy would become a world class deadly finisher.... DDA and R2D2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 368 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mário César said: 100M€ Imagine if you fail top4 with Silva and won a league title with Lukaku... The difference is paid with results Lukaku isn't any better than Silva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,252 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 for example if Liverpool thinked in that way, they didn't want buy Van Dijk because of the price and look what happened when they signed. Actually nobody think about how much Van Dijk cost because they won good trophies with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,252 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, R2D2 said: Lukaku isn't any better than Silva. I see silva since he played with Porto B!! No way he is ready to play in a team that challenge for epl title. no way Edited June 2, 2021 by Mário César Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,697 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Alabama said: Just get Lautauro Martinez....that guy would become a world class deadly finisher.... Great player but not what we need. Skillful, quick attackers we have many, but big, strong, good header option not. Thus Haaland or Big Rom would be a better fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 34 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Sounds reasonable. Silva scored 28 league goals in Bundesliga just like Werner the season before... but Silva needed fewer chances. Statistically, their numbers are kinda similar. Silva produced 107 shots in the Bundesliga and scored 28 league goals while he also missed 18 big chances. In Werner's final season at Leipzig, he had 117 shots and scored 28 goals but also missed 21 big chances. Although, I don't think Silva takes penalties for Eintracht Frankfurt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Jas said: Statistically, their numbers are kinda similar. Silva produced 107 shots in the Bundesliga and scored 28 league goals while he also missed 18 big chances. In Werner's final season at Leipzig, he had 117 shots and scored 28 goals but also missed 21 big chances. Although, I don't think Silva takes penalties for Eintracht Frankfurt? I would say this small but not miniscule difference still substantiates my point. Hf you watched both player in action for their respective season and judge the quality of chances with your own eyes you would see Silva is more clinical than Werner. He a. lso does not get into good positions as much and as Werner tho and does not cover the ground as rapidly and industriously in my eyes. Anyway, Silva is surely not the all-action striker we need but he could still be useful. My choicee would be to keep either Tammy or Giroud and sign Vlahovic or Daka. Even more of a gamble but more upside as well. I reckon we will continue to use Havertz as false 9 anyway so maybe striker is not as high on the priority list for the club as we think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 56 minutes ago, Mário César said: 100M€ Imagine if you fail top4 with Silva and won a league title with Lukaku... The difference is paid with results But Lukaku wouldn't win us the league. People keep saying his first touch has got better but it hasn't the reason it looks better is because of the standard of Serie A and the pace of the league. Feck me, but even Zlatan with one knee is still cracking in 17 goals a season and looking like one of the best players in the league. I get why you don't want Silva, I am not sold on him either however Lukaku is not the answer. If I had to choose between them I got Silva unless you can get Lukaku for £40-£50m (which you cannot.) R2D2 and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 368 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: I would say this small but not miniscule difference still substantiates my point. Hf you watched both player in action for their respective season and judge the quality of chances with your own eyes you would see Silva is more clinical than Werner. He a. lso does not get into good positions as much and as Werner tho and does not cover the ground as rapidly and industriously in my eyes. Anyway, Silva is surely not the all-action striker we need but he could still be useful. My choicee would be to keep either Tammy or Giroud and sign Vlahovic or Daka. Even more of a gamble but more upside as well. I reckon we will continue to use Havertz as false 9 anyway so maybe striker is not as high on the priority list for the club as we think Hope you right man, I want to see Havertz and Werner step it up and reinforce in other positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 368 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, King Kante said: But Lukaku wouldn't win us the league. People keep saying his first touch has got better but it hasn't the reason it looks better is because of the standard of Serie A and the pace of the league. Feck me, but even Zlatan with one knee is still cracking in 17 goals a season and looking like one of the best players in the league. I get why you don't want Silva, I am not sold on him either however Lukaku is not the answer. If I had to choose between them I got Silva unless you can get Lukaku for £40-£50m (which you cannot.) Absolutely this, the fucking Top scorers are composed of washed up Ronaldo, Immobile, Ibrahimovic and Lukaku enough said, that league is a disgrace. DH1988 and Muzchap 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: I would say this small but not miniscule difference still substantiates my point. Hf you watched both player in action for their respective season and judge the quality of chances with your own eyes you would see Silva is more clinical than Werner. He a. lso does not get into good positions as much and as Werner tho and does not cover the ground as rapidly and industriously in my eyes. Anyway, Silva is surely not the all-action striker we need but he could still be useful. My choicee would be to keep either Tammy or Giroud and sign Vlahovic or Daka. Even more of a gamble but more upside as well. I reckon we will continue to use Havertz as false 9 anyway so maybe striker is not as high on the priority list for the club as we think I haven't seen Vlahovic other than a YouTube video. Is he actually a prospect or is he just benefitting from a purple patch/the standard of Serie A like Piatek did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy 342 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Although we didn't need their help in the end, we owe Spurs one for beating Leicester. So I plead with Chelsea fans around the world to club together and help Spurs buy Lukaku. R2D2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Some people never learn the lesson. Lukaku is a proven player, prolific goal scorer and a leader. In past years we already tried those player who were supposed to be the next big thing and were massive flops: Morata and Werner. Paying any money for a player like Silva from Bundesliga is a big mistake, since he will be just another Werner...but thats no surprise, months ago folks on this sub were saying they didn't want Messi because he would destroy "Lampard's project". LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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