Chelsea Transfers

[manpe 10,861]

1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

 

Not surprised in the slightest that he prefers Liverpool. A German player wanting to play for a high-flying team managed by the best German coach, that's a no-brainer. The only way Liverpool don't get him is if they don't want him.

Werner, Firmino, Mane, Salah is just too good 

[Malito 17]

Do some of you folks do anything but blow smoke up rivals arses and whinge.. Serious Question, No Jokes.

I mean I wonder what You will be doing next season instead of getting all worked up & suicidal about what all Our Incredible rivals, with their Incredible stadiums, Incredible budgets, Incredible managers & ofcourse Incredible and vastly superior players are up to..  because after all according to You there's no point in following Chelsea anymore.

Oh I know, You'll be fawning over hypothetical lists of players at other clubs with made up transfer fees, that We can easily achieve by selling off all Our "DEADWOOD" 😂.

Do some of You folks even like Football, it sounds masochistic to Me.

 

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[Vesper 30,195]

On 25/02/2020 at 1:33 AM, shrenshah said:

Werners release clause is just effing 25mn...we should buy him right now

he isnt coming here, he is going to Liverpool

every time he opens his mouth in Germany it becomes more clear that that is where he is going

 

[Vesper 30,195]

5 hours ago, Malito said:

Do some of you folks do anything but blow smoke up rivals arses and whinge.. Serious Question, No Jokes.

I mean I wonder what You will be doing next season instead of getting all worked up & suicidal about what all Our Incredible rivals, with their Incredible stadiums, Incredible budgets, Incredible managers & ofcourse Incredible and vastly superior players are up to..  because after all according to You there's no point in following Chelsea anymore.

Oh I know, You'll be fawning over hypothetical lists of players at other clubs with made up transfer fees, that We can easily achieve by selling off all Our "DEADWOOD" 😂.

Do some of You folks even like Football, it sounds masochistic to Me.

 

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lol

you seem nice

[Malito 17]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

lol

you sound nice

Why Thank You kindly

I guess telling it like it is isn't the done thing in here lol.

By the way I have no beef with anybody but sugar coating it isn't My gig.

P.S. Your knowledge of players is genuinely remarkable and I enjoy reading Your write ups of players I've never even heard of.

 

[Vesper 30,195]

1 hour ago, Malito said:

Why Thank You kindly

I guess telling it like it is isn't the done thing in here lol.

By the way I have no beef with anybody but sugar coating it isn't My gig.

P.S. Your knowledge of players is genuinely remarkable and I enjoy reading Your write ups of players I've never even heard of.

 

I just think you are being a bit harsh on the board on general

and thank you for the compliment

[Malito 17]

10 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I just think you are being a bit harsh on the board on general

and thank you for the compliment

I just see so much complaining about stuff beyond any Supporters Control & it's like Jeez, Chill the f**k out lol.  Maybe I was a bit harsh but it's just Me.  I don't set out to offend but I don't bite My tongue either.

You're most welcome

I can't tell You the number of times You've thrown up plenty of names that I've had to go away and look into.  I love My Football but You take it to a whole other level Vesper.

 

KTBFFH!!

[Vesper 30,195]

13 minutes ago, Malito said:

I just see so much complaining about stuff beyond any Supporters Control & it's like Jeez, Chill the f**k out lol.  Maybe I was a bit harsh but it's just Me.  I don't set out to offend but I don't bite My tongue either.

You're most welcome

I can't tell You the number of times You've thrown up plenty of names that I've had to go away and look into.  I love My Football but You take it to a whole other level Vesper.

 

KTBFFH!!

the way the board seems to be going, my lists just depress me further, lolol

If we cave in and renew that rotter Willian for 3 years at a further £30m shit flush, I am going to lose my bloody mind

that will put the total (including the summer Marina turn down of £65m from Barca) quid burn at damn near £100m just on that fuckstick alone 

it is utter madness

[Malito 17]

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

the way the board seems to be going, my lists just depress me further, lolol

If we cave in and renew that rotter Willian for 3 years at a further £30m shit flush, I am going to lose my bloody mind

that will put the total (including the summer Marina turn down of £65m from Barca) quid burn at damn near £100m just on that fuckstick alone 

it is utter madness

I was saying to a good friend earlier, I cannot for the life of Me understand the Club in offering Willian a 2 year deal.

I don't wanna slag of any player who pulls on the Chelsea Shirt, especially one whose given 7 seasons but I can admit that He's been on a downward curve for a few seasons now and it's time for both He & Pedro to go.

I understand why the Player wants to remain in the Capital, I hold no malice towards Him but the Club do not need to renew and imo shouldn't renew His contract.

We're not going to improve with Him as a mainstay in the First Team & if He signs, I think He plays, which to Me is a worry moving forward.

KTBFFH!!

[Malito 17]

On a side note, I don't understand all the hate Marina gets.

She is appointed by Roman and if He's not happy with what She's doing then He can reshuffle or remove Her.

I don't know whether folks are reluctant to criticise the Man who took Us to dine at the Top Table (understandable) or they really think Marina has performed Hoodoo and taken control of the Club but if they don't like the way the Club operates and the direction it's moving then the buck starts & stops with one Man.  Our Russian benefactor Mr Abramovich.

I am forever grateful to the Oligarch but I don't pretend that He's somehow not really in control.

KTBFFH!!

[Vesper 30,195]

14 minutes ago, Malito said:

I was saying to a good friend earlier, I cannot for the life of Me understand the Club in offering Willian a 2 year deal.

I don't wanna slag of any player who pulls on the Chelsea Shirt, especially one whose given 7 seasons but I can admit that He's been on a downward curve for a few seasons now and it's time for both He & Pedro to go.

I understand why the Player wants to remain in the Capital, I hold no malice towards Him but the Club do not need to renew and imo shouldn't renew His contract.

We're not going to improve with Him as a mainstay in the First Team & if He signs, I think He plays, which to Me is a worry moving forward.

KTBFFH!!

he can go play at West Sham or Palace if he wants to stay in London

watch him go and sign up with Spuds and Mou!!!

complete sellsword he would be

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Jase 43,479]

55 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

[Malito 17]

9 hours ago, Vesper said:

he can go play at West Sham or Palace if he wants to stay in London

watch him go and sign up with Spuds and Mou!!!

complete sellsword he would be

If the Club don't want Him for the length of contract He's after then I personally have no issue wherever He winds up.  He's entitled to seek out whatever deal He believes He's worth.   Obviously there is a special place in Hell for Spuds & The Dippers so it would be better if it was somewhere other than The Scum from the Lane but I won't lose any sleep over it.

We need to aim much higher.

Let Him take His 5 goals and 4 assists a season to North London 😂.

KTBFFH!!

[NikkiCFC 8,326]

Chelsea set for defensive overhaul as Frank Lampard makes Dayot Upamecano No.1 target

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-set-defensive-overhaul-frank-21585137

[Chelsea_firstlove 178]

1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said:

Chelsea set for defensive overhaul as Frank Lampard makes Dayot Upamecano No.1 target

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-set-defensive-overhaul-frank-21585137

Great signing. Swap Ampadu+ 30m + a buy-back clause.

[Vesper 30,195]

34 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Chelsea set for defensive overhaul as Frank Lampard makes Dayot Upamecano No.1 target

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-set-defensive-overhaul-frank-21585137

I know he has been injured with a hip flexor muscle fibre tear, but I still think Ibrahima Konaté has a higher upside than Dayot Upamecano

 

Konaté back in Leipzig training: Poulsen and Ampadu are missing

https://www.welt.de/regionales/sachsen/article206146701/Konate-zurueck-im-Leipzig-Training-Poulsen-und-Ampadu-fehlen.html

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

FRANK LAMPARD knows the standard needed to compete with the best in Europe.

Now he wants Chelsea to back him with a squad capable of returning the club to former glories. The 3-0 destruction to Bayern Munich was not just a hammer blow to the side’s Champions League hopes this season. It was a public exposure of how far the Blues are off the top level. Bayern were cool, calm and clinical – everything Chelsea were not. Yet the last person to be surprised at Tuesday night’s events at Stamford Bridge  was Lampard himself because deep down he knows the limitations of the group he has to work with.

As a player he understood what it takes to win domestic titles and reach the latter stages of the Champions League. As a manager he knows some of his players are short of what is needed. His post-match message was clear when he challenged his players to examine their own display against their direct opponent and ask themselves what they have to do to be able to reach that level. Lampard admitted he “learnt a lot about my players” in the way they were outclassed and made it clear it was not just the youngsters he was talking about.

After almost eight months in charge, his mind is rapidly being made up on who has what it takes to survive a major cull this summer. Among those now in danger of being eased out are England midfielder Ross Barkley, £72million goalkeeper Kepa Arrizabalaga and £50m midfielder Jorginho. Also under the microscope in the final stages of the season are Kurt Zouma, Willian and Pedro as Lampard prepares to get tough with the established names. And there is little doubt left-sided defenders Marcos Alonso, sent off for a stupid elbow against Bayern, and Emerson are not rated as good enough.

Whether the manager will be able to engineer a situation which will see so many players offloaded in one transfer window remains to be seen. But he wants to radically change the  squad with at least another four signings following  the capture of £33m Ajax forward Hakim Ziyech. Leicester and England left-back Ben Chilwell is rated highly, while a swap deal with Atletico Madrid for their keeper Jan Oblak would solve the Kepa problem. And then there is the obvious interest in Jadon Sancho, who would be massively expensive at £100m-plus but would bring what is clearly missing right now at Chelsea – goals and assists from out wide.

When club legend Lampard was appointed manager last summer,  the levels of performance he was expected to deliver were made clear. Lampard is now making it clear to the power-brokers at the Bridge that if they want to be competing at those levels then they are going to have to get busy this summer. He is not content with slugging it out with Sheffield United, Tottenham, Manchester United and Wolves just to seal a fourth place finish in the Premier League. Nor is he of the belief Chelsea should be a club happy just to make it out of the group stages of the Champions League, He wants more.

The levels he spoke of in the wake of the Bayern game were of being a squad capable of fighting it out with Liverpool and Manchester City to be the best team in England again. To be challenging for Champions League glory once again as well. It is those demands he is placing on the Chelsea board - including director Marina Granovskaia and his team-mate Petr Cech, technical and performance adviser - to sanction a massive investment in new players over the close season.The manager is clear he is up for what is needed to bring glory back to the Bridge. Now to find up if the Chelsea board are just as keen.

 

[Vesper 30,195]

1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

FRANK LAMPARD knows the standard needed to compete with the best in Europe.

Now he wants Chelsea to back him with a squad capable of returning the club to former glories. The 3-0 destruction to Bayern Munich was not just a hammer blow to the side’s Champions League hopes this season. It was a public exposure of how far the Blues are off the top level. Bayern were cool, calm and clinical – everything Chelsea were not. Yet the last person to be surprised at Tuesday night’s events at Stamford Bridge  was Lampard himself because deep down he knows the limitations of the group he has to work with.

As a player he understood what it takes to win domestic titles and reach the latter stages of the Champions League. As a manager he knows some of his players are short of what is needed. His post-match message was clear when he challenged his players to examine their own display against their direct opponent and ask themselves what they have to do to be able to reach that level. Lampard admitted he “learnt a lot about my players” in the way they were outclassed and made it clear it was not just the youngsters he was talking about.

After almost eight months in charge, his mind is rapidly being made up on who has what it takes to survive a major cull this summer. Among those now in danger of being eased out are England midfielder Ross Barkley, £72million goalkeeper Kepa Arrizabalaga and £50m midfielder Jorginho. Also under the microscope in the final stages of the season are Kurt Zouma, Willian and Pedro as Lampard prepares to get tough with the established names. And there is little doubt left-sided defenders Marcos Alonso, sent off for a stupid elbow against Bayern, and Emerson are not rated as good enough.

Whether the manager will be able to engineer a situation which will see so many players offloaded in one transfer window remains to be seen. But he wants to radically change the  squad with at least another four signings following  the capture of £33m Ajax forward Hakim Ziyech. Leicester and England left-back Ben Chilwell is rated highly, while a swap deal with Atletico Madrid for their keeper Jan Oblak would solve the Kepa problem. And then there is the obvious interest in Jadon Sancho, who would be massively expensive at £100m-plus but would bring what is clearly missing right now at Chelsea – goals and assists from out wide.

When club legend Lampard was appointed manager last summer,  the levels of performance he was expected to deliver were made clear. Lampard is now making it clear to the power-brokers at the Bridge that if they want to be competing at those levels then they are going to have to get busy this summer. He is not content with slugging it out with Sheffield United, Tottenham, Manchester United and Wolves just to seal a fourth place finish in the Premier League. Nor is he of the belief Chelsea should be a club happy just to make it out of the group stages of the Champions League, He wants more.

The levels he spoke of in the wake of the Bayern game were of being a squad capable of fighting it out with Liverpool and Manchester City to be the best team in England again. To be challenging for Champions League glory once again as well. It is those demands he is placing on the Chelsea board - including director Marina Granovskaia and his team-mate Petr Cech, technical and performance adviser - to sanction a massive investment in new players over the close season.The manager is clear he is up for what is needed to bring glory back to the Bridge. Now to find up if the Chelsea board are just as keen.

 

it will never happen but

every one of these needs to go

and actually only 9 (in bold) will still be under contract  come summer (not counting those loanees dregs who are technically on the main roster) so the rst leave anyway, hopefully (if we renew that cunt Willian I am DONE)

Kepa  <<<< go board! lol, ffs, £142m down the shitter you fucking twats, could have had Strakosha for 30-35m euros and half hsi salery, but NOOO, had to break the world record, and for a piece of shit
Willy Caballero  dogshit, shameful that he is now out number one
Kurt Zouma    meh, work a deal with Everton where he is makeweight for Calvert-Lewin, say Zouma plus £25-30m or Zouma plus Bats
Andreas Christensen   dogshit, weak as fuck, sell him back to Germany or Barca (no clue why they have made multiple approaches, he is a pussyclaat)
Emerson    doghsit
Marcos Alonso   doghsit   
Jorginho   <<< cash in now as he will start to depreciate soon, he turns 30 at the end of next year (2021)
N'Golo Kanté  (cash in now or get fucked, plus he is now seemingly perma injured. The only way keeping him makes sense is if we sack Lampard and hire a defensive minded coach like Simeone)
Ross Barkley   doghsit
Marco van Ginkel  so unlucky with injuries
Lewis Baker <<<<<<< wtf is he still here???
Danilo Pantic <<<<<<<< see Baker 
Willian <<<<<< get the fuck out of my club!!!!   
Pedro  <<< thanks for the memories, but you are now dogshit m8
Michy Batshuayi  pure, unadulterated, 100% non filtered doghsit, Marina can go fuck herself with a rusty pipe after demanding £45m and turning down £35m or so multiple times over the past couple years
Olivier Giroud <<<<<<<< he will never stay as a 3rd striker, not playing him and play the horrific Bats was one of Lamapards most massive cockups  

[Vesper 30,195]

Werner is waiting on Liverpool and they have until April to complete £51m move

https://theathletic.com/1624500/2020/02/27/timo-werner-liverpool-barcelona-manchester-united-transfer/

Jurgen Klopp had steered his Opel Insignia past the vast walls of the sprawling Ince Blundell Estate beside Formby’s bypass last autumn when he realised he needed to have a conversation with his wife, Ulla.

Earlier that day, Klopp had been in Kirkby — the site of Liverpool’s new training ground, which is expected to open this summer.

He had seen the outstanding facilities, the close proximity to the club’s youth academy a little further up Arbour Lane and Anfield’s main stand shimmering in the distance, recognising that he had helped establish a visible, practical and emotional connection between three significant locations. Then he looked at the open shell where his office will be and imagined someone else looking out at the view, directing operations from a space created at his command.

Klopp had told Liverpool’s owners in 2016 that a new training facility was a priority.

Fenway Sports Group (FSG) had already done their research, knowing it would cost more than £50 million. They also knew the Liverpool squad needed improving. This meant that extra funds were not lying around in the bank waiting to be used on other projects.

Klopp’s request had the potential to impact on their reach in the transfer market, but he didn’t mind. ‘We’ll just have to work harder,’ he thought. FSG, led by Mike Gordon, listened to Klopp’s suggestions and four years later Liverpool will soon enter a new era away from Melwood just at the point the team’s development is accelerating and the possibilities seem greater than they have been for generations.

On that drive home, Klopp tried to imagine himself being anywhere else and could not.

Liverpool’s owners had long feared he might walk away at the conclusion of a contract that ran to 2022. They had reassured him that negotiations on a new deal were only ever a phone call away. Klopp had resisted because he’s not the sort of person to peer too far ahead. His father had looked forward to a retirement that ended up lasting only a couple of months before his own death. This had prompted a re-think in Klopp’s own life. He tries his best to live only for the moment.

Still, an important matter had germinated in his own mind and later that night, Klopp and his wife allowed themselves to consider what the future might hold.

Spain was an option. For Klopp, there would always be offers. Yet La Liga had never captured Klopp’s imagination like the Premier League did. Language had long been one of his most powerful tools and he does not speak Spanish. Would his words have the same impact there? Would Spanish fans appreciate his style of football the way they do in England and Germany? Would time run out quicker on him than in places he knew better, considering how differently his teams play compared to those that traditionally represent Real Madrid and Barcelona?

What about a return to Germany? He would not enjoy the control he has at Liverpool at Bayern Munich — where there are plenty of admirers, despite him being their enemy in a previous life as Borussia Dortmund coach. The national team? Klopp is a great unifier but that job is not available and maybe it is for later in his career anyway…

Ulla Klopp loves living on Merseyside, and so does her husband. They were not keen to move away from a region where they are able to lead relatively normal lives despite its passion for football. Klopp had helped engender a triangle of trust between himself, his players and the owners. When that happens, the fans follow. Both in a social and sporting sense, the conditions were right for them to stay. Klopp told his agent, Marc Kosicke, to have a chat with Gordon and it did not take long to hammer out details. Gordon, needless to say, was relieved as well as delighted.

Crucially, Klopp had concluded, the prospect of a new challenge was within the framework of an environment he’d already fostered: the rebuilding job to come after this current team’s cycle is done. He realises the trick is not to make it seem like a rebuilding job at all, rather a smooth transition from one to the next: where outstanding players are replaced by other outstanding players ready to carry on their good work.

He recognises the conditions at Liverpool are there for him to do what Sir Alex Ferguson did at Manchester United and what Arsene Wenger did at Arsenal, albeit to a lesser extent because he does not see himself still managing Liverpool a decade from now. He believes he can build a second great team — something he has not managed in his previous jobs, and nor has any other German coach working abroad.

At Mainz, he never had an opportunity to maintain a culture of relative success because his better players always got sold to the sort of clubs hoping to push into the Bundesliga’s European qualification places and Mainz were not a big enough deal to attract ready-made replacements. With Dortmund, he never had it because his best players moved either to Bayern, Spain or England. At Liverpool, he has more of a defining influence on the future because of the team’s achievements, the club’s rediscovered status and what else might happen.

He can dictate the market more than he has ever been able to.

Klopp’s and Liverpool’s strong position is reflected in their stance on Timo Werner. After scoring the winner against Tottenham Hotspur in the Champions League last week, the RB Leipzig forward could not have made it any clearer that he would relish a move to Anfield if an offer came his way.

“I know that Liverpool is the best team at the moment in the world and when you are linked with that team it makes me very proud,” Werner said.

The Athletic understands Werner has already received proposals from Barcelona and Manchester United but is waiting to see whether Liverpool make a move. There is a clause in his contract which means that he can agree a £51 million move away as long as it is negotiated before a deadline in April, which would then give Leipzig longer to make their own plans to replace him for next season.

It was put to The Athletic by a key source this week that if Klopp chooses to go for Werner, who has 28 goals this season, negotiations are most likely to start in the middle of March. That is the month when discussions really got going in previous years on the eye-catching deals that brought in Fabinho and Alisson from Monaco and Roma respectively.

Immediately, Klopp is thinking about his attacking options for next season because of the scheduling of the Olympic Games (July 22 to August 8) and Africa Cup of Nations (January 9 to February 6). Both tournaments might have an impact on a campaign that’s unlikely to involve either Adam Lallana and Xherdan Shaqiri, who are both expected to leave the club in the summer.

A longer-term consideration is that his brilliant front three are roughly the same age — Sadio Mane and Mohamed Salah both turn 28 in the next four months while Roberto Firmino is 29 in early October — and though Klopp wants them to finish their careers at Liverpool and achieve plenty more before then, the introduction of a younger forward (Werner is 24 next Friday) could be beneficial.

Werner would not be signed as anyone’s replacement but as competition, someone who has the ability to push one of Salah, Mane or Firmino out. Of the three players currently at Klopp’s disposal, only Firmino does not kick up a fuss when he is substituted — yet he is arguably the most valuable of them all. Even on Monday night against West Ham United, Mane seemed frustrated when he was taken off in stoppage time until a greeting from the Kop distracted him.

Mane and Salah have a healthy, competitive rivalry and Klopp benefits from this but he does not want to disrupt the balance. Loyalty is also a big deal to him. Both players signed for him and have given him their all. It will take conversation and careful reasoning if he is to convince each of his present front three of the benefits of heightened competition at a point in the calendar where promises of the earth from elsewhere will probably come to their agents. The timing of such conversations will also be crucial considering what Liverpool can win from here.

Werner, meanwhile, is said to be perceptive. He has seen the struggles of Philippe Coutinho after a big move from under Klopp’s Anfield wing to Barcelona and knows that club’s current team is probably its weakest since before Frank Rijkaard took charge in 2003. He also knows Manchester United have been in flux since 2016.

It has been suggested Werner also does not want to waste prime years waiting for Liverpool’s star players to move on, but surely Klopp has noted another comment from last week where he admitted, “I know that Liverpool play a lot of good players and I have to improve myself and I need to learn many more things to get to that level and to play there.”

Those who have followed Werner’s career closely in Germany say his character is a mature mix of talent, patience and perseverance. He is strong-willed. There had been an agreement for him to go to Bayern last summer but they messed him around by pursuing Manchester City’s Leroy Sane more aggressively instead. When that move broke down in August because of a serious injury to Sane, it was too late to turn back. Werner was said to be so disappointed by the way Bayern handled the matter that he instructed his representatives to return the contract — an indication it would never be signed.

He has gone from strength to strength this season, emerging as one of Europe’s best forwards, and is still wanted by a section of Bayern’s board, who were banking on his original Leipzig deal running out so they could sign him on a free transfer this summer. This left Werner feeling like he wasn’t a priority — or, at worst, not really wanted — so he agreed a new contract which gave him freedoms around fresh options over the next few months.

Though Klopp and Werner come from the Swabia region of south-western Germany and both grew up supporting Stuttgart — the club where Werner began his career — there is a clearer link between the pair: the involvement of Karlheinz Forster, Werner’s agent.

Forster was Klopp’s boyhood hero, a pillar in the Stuttgart defence that helped secure only the third Bundesliga title in the club’s history in 1984, shortly before the future Liverpool manager turned 17. Klopp’s grandmother Anna had knitted him a white jumper in the style of Stuttgart’s kit with Forster’s No 4 on the back. Klopp then clung to the No 4 in his own playing career, even when he was used as a centre-forward by Mainz.

It is claimed that when they first met decades later, Klopp did not arrive with the sort of big gestures we are now familiar with. Rather than greet Forster with a bear hug, he stretched out his arm and offered a rather more restrained handshake, such was his respect.

There might be a convenient arc to this relationship, because their next handshake could prove to mark the beginning of Liverpool’s next stage.