Davekelly35 18 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 so we’ve made just two signings this window. A teenager and a shirt deal? I can’t be the only one finding this funny. We are letting Giroud go, and I am sure if somebody come asking for bat we would let him go too. Based on Lampard body language we are not signing anybody. The only thing to look forward to are we loaning put players .The board is happy with the squad, so I guess that’s that then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Henrique said: Cabo Verde is África. jesus fucking christ I KNOW I have BEEN THERE have you????????? learn how to bloody read I was talking about EUROPEAN fucking players now quite possibly being in the same boat work permit-wise as NON EU!! you are just trolling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,917 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Jason said: You know things are getting desperate when United are reportedly going after Slimani... United are after the dude Trump just assassinated with a drone strike? Damn, they really are desperate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 We are not letting Giroud go unless we have a replacement. That is clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 No idea where our why it's being reported but Twitter is taking about jovic being available on loan. No brainer surely if that was true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 forget Isco (besides the possible fact he doesn't want to leave this January) as usual, Florentino Perez is playing fucking games now wants 70m euros (£59m) https://eldesmarque.com/madrid/real-madrid/noticias/182900-kloppp-lo-quiere-a-el-y-juega-en-el-real-madrid-de-zidane-ed Real, Bayern, and Juve are the 3 biggest cunt teams to deal with on the planet Barca is bad, but not even close to those 3 Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 If Frank and the board keep coming out with this naive 'it has to be the right player' shite for the remainder of the window when guys like Edinson Cavani has handed in a transfer request - a top player in a position we are crying out for hugely just now - then I don't know. I mean who or what are the board looking at/doing? If they can miraculously decide they want to go after Giroud for Conte then surely when somebody of Cavani's ilk puts in a transfer request they take notice? Surely? We continue to be linked with younger players (particularly English ones in Chillwell and Sancho who are obviously with more long term in mind but we need something now to refresh the group. Even Eriksen is going to Inter, for 17m, I mean who at the club hasnt thought you know what he might do a job for us and for 17m... why not? Surely Frank and Jody isnt thinking Mason and Ross are better options than Christian Eriksen? 17m is hardly breaking the bank and even then at 20 or 30m he is a top quality player and his final pass is better than anything we have in the squad at the moment. Eriksen and a new CF as well as shipping Ross out who Frank clearly doesnt fancy (was linked with West Ham) would of been a great window imo. Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Eriksen and a new CF as well as shipping Ross out who Frank clearly doesnt fancy (was linked with West Ham) would of been a great window imo. LB is going to fuck us hard maybe not as hard as Bats as our backup (and now starting for a wee bit) striker, but fuck us nonetheless it is madness we have not at least sorted one of the 2 LB's out Telles is just sitting there for the taking Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: LB is going to fuck us hard maybe not as hard as Bats as our backup (and now starting for a wee bit) striker, but fuck us nonetheless it is madness we have not at least sorted one of the 2 LB's out Telles is just sitting there for the taking Again, exactly. I am not utterly convinced Telles is the best LB out there but he is far better than what we have. I am still baffled regarding Eriksen and will.continue to be so. Not even just us, Man United not going for him either, it is as if the clubs dont want to improve.... Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 bye bye Giroud very very soon Inter & Napoli Agree Deal Worth €23m For Matteo Politano https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/calciomercato-napoli-politano-dettagli-accordo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: If Frank and the board keep coming out with this naive 'it has to be the right player' shite for the remainder of the window when guys like Edinson Cavani has handed in a transfer request - a top player in a position we are crying out for hugely just now - then I don't know. I mean who or what are the board looking at/doing? If they can miraculously decide they want to go after Giroud for Conte then surely when somebody of Cavani's ilk puts in a transfer request they take notice? Surely? Wages. By the sounds of it Cavani is getting a two and a half year deal worth €14m a year. Would be absolutely mental to offer that to a 33 year old. If he flops we will fuck up our wage structure every bit as badly as United have with Alexis. 25 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Even Eriksen is going to Inter, for 17m, I mean who at the club hasnt thought you know what he might do a job for us and for 17m... why not? Eriksen is exactly the type of player we should be avoiding at all costs. He is past his sell by date and unmotivated. He has Alexis at United MK2 written all over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tomo said: Wages. By the sounds of it Cavani is getting a two and a half year deal worth €14m a year. Would be absolutely mental to offer that to a 33 year old. If he flops we will fuck up our wage structure every bit as badly as United have with Alexis. Eriksen is exactly the type of player we should be avoiding at all costs. He is past his sell by date and unmotivated. He has Alexis at United MK2 written all over him. Maybe wages but again if we are going to haggle with Willian over a new contract before caving and probably handing him 200k a week then offering Cavani slightly more is hardly anything out of the ordinary. Especially considering the fact weve thrown 100k a week at guys like Drinkwater, 180k a week to Hudson Odoi, god knows how much of Falcao and Pato's wages we were paying etc etc. He would be worth the risk I think because 1 we are urgent for better CF options to reduce the load/rotate Tammy out at times and 2 the other options dont seem realistic in January. I do think he will be a hit for Atletico if he goes there, he doesnt strike me as somebody who is finished, where as Costa really suffered after that 6 month spell of not playing and basically has wound up finished earlier than he should of been as well as that Croatian bloke they had for a season who was pathetic, he was probably finished before he had even kicked a ball for Atletico. Have to disagree with Eriksen, hes in his prime age and while he hasnt started for Spurs with Mourinho his quality on the ball is still evident. He has come on and had a hand in a few goals with either key passes or assists in these games and he is definitely more creative than Willian, Barkley and Mason combined. Again for 17m, he would of hardly been a huge risk. Even if he didnt set the world alight completely. I mean we paid 15m for Barkley and people said it was a good move because it was a low price and he had untapped potential so 17m for a player who was arguably one of the top 5 number 10s in the PL over the last 3 years, a huge upgrade on everything we have, baffles me why we werent even in the running. Even more so United who were chasing the inferior player in Bruno Fernandes at about 4 times the price.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Again, exactly. I am not utterly convinced Telles is the best LB out there but he is far better than what we have. I am still baffled regarding Eriksen and will.continue to be so. Not even just us, Man United not going for him either, it is as if the clubs dont want to improve.... my pure rate list, in order of all LB's in the top 20 (regardless of whether I want them or they are doable ro where are being played at at present or if they are healthy atm) 1 Andrew Robertson 2 David Alaba 3 Lucas Hernández 4 José Gayà 5 Alphonso Davies 6 Alex Sandro 7 Alex Telles 8 Theo Hernández 9 Ben Chillwell 10 Alejandro Grimaldo 11 Robin Gosens 12 Jordi Alba (ageing) 13 Ferland Mendy 14 Junior Firpo 15 Lucas Digne 16 Marcel Halstenberg 17 Renan Lodi 18 Luca Pellegrini 19 Sergio Reguilón 20 Nicolás Tagliafico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Just now, Vesper said: my pure rate list, in order of all LB's in the top 20 (regardless of whether I want them or they are doable ro where are being played at at present or if they are healthy atm) 1 Andrew Robertson 2 David Alaba 3 Lucas Hernández 4 José Gayà 5 Alphonso Davies 6 Alex Sandro 7 Alex Telles 8 Theo Hernández 9 Ben Chillwell 10 Alejandro Grimaldo 11 Robin Gosens 12 Jordi Alba (ageing) 13 Ferland Mendy 14 Junior Firpo 15 Lucas Digne 16 Marcel Halstenberg 17 Renan Lodi 18 Luca Pellegrini 19 Sergio Reguilón 20 Nicolás Tagliafico Even somebody like Tagliafico would be easily attainable in my eyes. Maybe more short term but again, 2 or 3 seasons out of him, better than what we have... its almost as if the club see it as Chillwell or bust. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Have to disagree with Eriksen, hes in his prime age and while he hasnt started for Spurs with Mourinho his quality on the ball is still evident. He has come on and had a hand in a few goals with either key passes or assists in these games and he is definitely more creative than Willian, Barkley and Mason combined. Again for 17m, he would of hardly been a huge risk. Even if he didnt set the world alight completely. I mean we paid 15m for Barkley and people said it was a good move because it was a low price and he had untapped potential so 17m for a player who was arguably one of the top 5 number 10s in the PL over the last 3 years, a huge upgrade on everything we have, baffles me why we werent even in the running. Even more so United who were chasing the inferior player in Bruno Fernandes at about 4 times the price.... Even if he's still producing alright numbers doesn't nessesereiley mean he hasn't declined. In 12/13 Lampard and Rooney put in solid numbers but it was clear to anyone who watched them they were well past it. 29 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Maybe wages but again if we are going to haggle with Willian over a new contract before caving and probably handing him 200k a week then offering Cavani slightly more is hardly anything out of the ordinary. Especially considering the fact weve thrown 100k a week at guys like Drinkwater, 180k a week to Hudson Odoi, god knows how much of Falcao and Pato's wages we were paying etc etc. He would be worth the risk I think because 1 we are urgent for better CF options to reduce the load/rotate Tammy out at times and 2 the other options dont seem realistic in January. I do think he will be a hit for Atletico if he goes there, he doesnt strike me as somebody who is finished, where as Costa really suffered after that 6 month spell of not playing and basically has wound up finished earlier than he should of been as well as that Croatian bloke they had for a season who was pathetic, he was probably finished before he had even kicked a ball for Atletico. If I'm correct 14m a year is about 350k a week, that's just too far ahead of our highest paid player for the risk we're taking. If he doesn't recover from his recent injury's we'd be left with a crap player inflating our wage bill and negotiations with not only new players but contract extensions to current ones will be an absolute nightmare (for example imagine the leverage Tammy will then have if he outperforms him). As utterly outrageous as Drinkwaters wage is, it's not removed from our overall structure. I was happy to take a 6 month loan for Cavani with the wages subsidised, however the money needed to have outmuscle Atletico's offer is simply too much. Edited January 25, 2020 by Tomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tomo said: Even if he's still producing alright numbers doesn't nessesereiley mean he hasn't declined. In 12/13 Lampard and Rooney put in solid numbers but it was clear to anyone who watched them they were well past it. If I'm correct 14m a year is about 350k a week, that's just too far ahead of our highest paid player for the risk we're taking. If he doesn't recover from his recent injury's we'd be left with a crap player inflating our wage bill and negotiations with not only new players but contract extensions to current ones will be an absolute nightmare (for example imagine the leverage Tammy will then have if he outperforms him). As utterly outrageous as Drinkwaters wage is, it's not removed from our overall structure. I was happy to take a 6 month loan for Cavani with the wages subsidised, however the money needed to have outmuscle Atletico's offer is simply too much. His contract runs out in 6 months so wouldnt of ever been a realistic option unfortunately..or it would have been too much like common sense even for us to mess it up. I do think he could be persuaded to take a wage cut of sorts but we would have to make other circumstances change (bonuses, signing fees etc). The wages on offer in Spain are undoubtedly higher due to their taxes. Pretty sure the likes of Messi and Bale are near bang on 50% tax. Not sure if its much less in PL but if it was to be maybe that or a bigger bonus/fee for signing would make him lower his demand. I do think its probably too late in the day anyway for us to sign anybody of that sort of name. Think the change of scenery would do Eriksen the world of good, regardless of if it is here, Inter or wherever but I do feel Frank could have maybe edged him into a player who as well as gets plenty of assists, scores more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The board and Frank know who they want, they'll have a list of a few. Hence the quote ""I think it's about trying to get the choice right of the player that we can bring in considering what's available." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 7 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Even Eriksen is going to Inter, for 17m, I mean who at the club hasnt thought you know what he might do a job for us and for 17m... why not? Surely Frank and Jody isnt thinking Mason and Ross are better options than Christian Eriksen? 17m is hardly breaking the bank and even then at 20 or 30m he is a top quality player and his final pass is better than anything we have in the squad at the moment. Eriksen and a new CF as well as shipping Ross out who Frank clearly doesnt fancy (was linked with West Ham) would of been a great window imo. I'm assuming he doesn't want to join another English club. Hence why we haven't been linked with him at all. Heck, United were strongly linked with him previously but even that has gone completely gold as Inter try to get him. NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Tomo said: He has Alexis at United MK2 written all over him. Do you have something against Sanchez? Why do you seem to dislike him so much? I think the Eriksen's situation is different from Sanchez's. Eriksen is only 27 and is in his peak years and while it's not a good look on him, I believe his lack of motivation is due to the fact that he doesn't want to be at Spurs. With Sanchez, I think it's a case of his body just gave up on him after his endless exertions with club and country over the years. Over the last decade or so, I think he had less than 3 summer breaks. Otherwise, he played a lot for Barcelona and Arsenal and god knows how many tournaments with Chile. If anything, it's a surprise that he didn't break down sooner, especially when you consider his playing style on top of the lack of proper rest. Stats, OneMoSalah and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Tomo said: Eriksen is exactly the type of player we should be avoiding at all costs. He is past his sell by date and unmotivated. He has Alexis at United MK2 written all over him. I don't understand why are you saying that Eriksen and James Rodriguez are finished players? Comparing them to the fat Rooney and 35 years old Lampard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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