Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted April 4, 2024 Share Posted April 4, 2024 4 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: I would disagree, I feel a better manager would implement a more suitable system for the current group of players. Not saying that we would suddenly be competing for top 6 overnight but we should be 6-8 points better off than where we are at the moment. Maybe if we had 1-2 more experienced players in midfield, they would have steadied the ship and helped us maintain leads rather than going ahead and then watching our team go into panic mode and the opposition getting given easy goals. Like your optimism - but I think the problem runs a lot deeper than players and manager. They've stripped and outsourced, sacked a backroom network that was integral to our previous trophy blitz. As @Vesper mentioned above, we now have an ownership structure that will diversify in order to get profit from this business called football, and us as 'customers' as the CEO called us are secondary. Do you get emails from the club everyday, trying to get you to buy tat ? The PL and Championship are littered with billionaire owners that see success on the field secondary as long as they can make profit. I always cite an example that is Bristol City. A City that big should have a PL team. No two ways about it. Billionaire tax haven owner is happy to buy land round the ground to develop a 'sporting quarter', basketball, rugby, womens rugby, concerts, and happy for the team to fail in the championship every season. So many clubs like this. Everyday, I thank the previous owner here who just wanted football success above profit, and we were around when it happened. We'll go on supporting, of course we will. its what fans do -through the bad times, but I think we'll have the same mantra as so many other teams fans from now on.......... ''oh well, maybe next season'' bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted April 4, 2024 Share Posted April 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said: Like your optimism - but I think the problem runs a lot deeper than players and manager. They've stripped and outsourced, sacked a backroom network that was integral to our previous trophy blitz. I'd like to wait and see how the 'unaccounted payments' investigation pans out. Marina and Buck both had heavy ties to them I believe. Potentially Clearlake may have been "asked" to have them step down during the sale. I know they wanted to keep Cech. Reddish-Blue and Fulham Broadway 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted April 4, 2024 Share Posted April 4, 2024 5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: I'd like to wait and see how the 'unaccounted payments' investigation pans out. Marina and Buck both had heavy ties to them I believe. Potentially Clearlake may have been "asked" to have them step down during the sale. I know they wanted to keep Cech. Yes I think the decks being cleared was partly political as well, all ties with the Russian connections removed. The problem being there were experienced football brains removed by Clownlake. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon 55 Posted May 9, 2024 Share Posted May 9, 2024 Todd Boehly's been on a health kick! I didn't recognise him on recent a BBC article! Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted May 9, 2024 Share Posted May 9, 2024 20 minutes ago, JFKvsNixon said: Todd Boehly's been on a health kick! I didn't recognise him on recent a BBC article! wow! he looks so much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon 55 Posted May 9, 2024 Share Posted May 9, 2024 5 minutes ago, Vesper said: wow! he looks so much better I agree. I previously always thought he looked like a slob and maybe even a bit oafish, but fair play to him, he's looking a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Serious if true. Isn't this stripping the club off assets? Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Don't really understand. Cared to explain a bit more of that? Is that good? bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 7 minutes ago, Fernando said: Don't really understand. Cared to explain a bit more of that? Is that good? bad? Bad. It's just piling on more risk for short term gain. I fear for this football club if we don't finish Top 4 next season. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 On 09/05/2024 at 21:53, JFKvsNixon said: Todd Boehly's been on a health kick! I didn't recognise him on recent a BBC article! Don’t think its down to a health kick. More like 2 years taking cocaine and other drugs on a daily basis. Would certainly explain a lot of goings on at the club for sure 😂 Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 13 hours ago, Strike said: Serious if true. Isn't this stripping the club off assets? 8 hours ago, Fernando said: Don't really understand. Cared to explain a bit more of that? Is that good? bad? Certainly not the same thing as stripping the club of assets, from that perspective it is a total non-story. The assets stay within the company. All large businesses are made up of a holding company and a bunch of different companies the parent company owns. We're selling assets between them at fair market value, keeping them within the group. The real risk here is whether or not this behaviour is against financial fair play in the premier league where the rules state that: "For the avoidance of doubt, a Club will be in breach of its duty under Rule B.15 if it presents an Associated Party Transaction to the League (pursuant to Rules E.55 – E.77): (i) as a product of a genuine commercial negotiation where, in their reasonable and honest belief, no such genuine commercial negotiations took place; and/or (ii) as having a genuine commercial rationale to the counterparty when they do not hold a reasonable and honest belief that such a genuine commercial rationale exists." Of course, we don't even know that the club has actually done this deal, what we have here is a twitter thread from an obsessive, known Chelsea hater (obsessed with us and been screaming we're getting banned for years...wrongly, over and over), what we've got here is some loser on twitter speculating about other people's speculation built on top of other people's speculation. I would just ignore it all and trust the club. So far they've been very responsible and even self reported themselves before. Strike and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 On 12/05/2024 at 23:25, Strike said: Serious if true. Isn't this stripping the club off assets? Stuff like this why I can't shake off the feeling that these guys are just plain dodgy. I mean there were questionable actions in Roman's time, but this is another level. Stuff like how long it took for us to get a shirt sponsor this season, for example. Reminiscent of how Man UTd & the Glazers, and how long its taken them to fix a leaky roof at Old Trafford. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 15, 2024 Author Share Posted May 15, 2024 🗣️ Todd Boehly via @QatarEconForum on Chelsea's project. "The number one thing is you have got to be patient. You are putting something together and expecting it come together really quickly, but the reality is anything really good takes a little bit time. Patience was always a thought for us... "When we bought the Dodgers in 2013 we started 15 and 25, but we kind of just kept sticking to the plan because we believed the it was right. And we went through a similar thing with Chelsea... "You have to have the resolve to not hear all the noise around you and remain committed to the plan. And since Boxing Day, we are the fourth best team in the Premier League. When you look at what is going on it now, it feels better and better." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,276 Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Todd doesn’t know who Eden Hazard is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 15, 2024 Author Share Posted May 15, 2024 52 minutes ago, Vytis33 said: Todd doesn’t know who Eden Hazard is? They are all investment bankers that come from a baseball background. Boehly followed football while at college in London, but these guys are usually all about making money. Even as a fan of both baseball and football, I doubt they spend anywhere near the amount of time that club fans do paying attention to the teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,276 Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Well maybe he’ll recognize him from the accounting ledger Vesper and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 (edited) Todd Boehly “might sell all of his stake” in Chelsea according to claim from ESPN pundit https://Chelsea.news/2024/05/110609/ The Gab and Juls show is one of the best football podcasts out there because both Gabriele Marcotti and Julien Laurens know their stuff, and also because they’re not afraid to get into the granular detail of events. This isn’t just your usual football show rounding up the viral moments from the weekend before. They like to get technical and stuck in to more than just the goals and gaffes. In today’s edition they got in deep on Chelsea’s ownership situation, in the light of the sacking of Mauricio Pochettino on Tuesday night. Marcotti had some really interesting speculation about what these events might be telling us about the future of Chelsea’s ownership. The current setup is Todd Boehly as part owner, with the majority of the club owners by the “Clearlake” group, headed up by Behdad Eghbali. It’s actually more complicated than that, but it’s the easiest way to explain it. A consortium that could fall apart Marcotti claimed that Boehly and the Clearlake duo of Eghbali and Feliciano “don’t see eye to eye.” “We’ve seen Boehly stepping back… they seem to be at odds… I think Boehly might fade into the background, maybe sell part of his stake or all of his stake. He’s not going to be visible,” the pundit continued. It’s an interesting take on things. Of course we hear so little from them it’s hard to get a read on what’s going on behind the scenes, but the reporting that Eghbali was anti-Pochettino while Boehly came out and publicly praised the coach recently certainly backs up Marcotti’s speculating that the two parties are pulling in different directions. Whether or not that leads Boehly to sell part of his stake or just take more of a passive role overall remains to be seen, but as Marcotti points out, the overwhelming financial might is with Clearlake. Edited May 23, 2024 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Vesper said: Todd Boehly “might sell all of his stake” in Chelsea according to claim from ESPN pundit https://Chelsea.news/2024/05/110609/ The Gab and Juls show is one of the best football podcasts out there because both Gabriele Marcotti and Julien Laurens know their stuff, and also because they’re not afraid to get into the granular detail of events. This isn’t just your usual football show rounding up the viral moments from the weekend before. They like to get technical and stuck in to more than just the goals and gaffes. In today’s edition they got in deep on Chelsea’s ownership situation, in the light of the sacking of Mauricio Pochettino on Tuesday night. Marcotti had some really interesting speculation about what these events might be telling us about the future of Chelsea’s ownership. The current setup is Todd Boehly as part owner, with the majority of the club owners by the “Clearlake” group, headed up by Behdad Eghbali. It’s actually more complicated than that, but it’s the easiest way to explain it. A consortium that could fall apart Marcotti claimed that Boehly and the Clearlake duo of Eghbali and Feliciano “don’t see eye to eye.” “We’ve seen Boehly stepping back… they seem to be at odds… I think Boehly might fade into the background, maybe sell part of his stake or all of his stake. He’s not going to be visible,” the pundit continued. It’s an interesting take on things. Of course we hear so little from them it’s hard to get a read on what’s going on behind the scenes, but the reporting that Eghbali was anti-Pochettino while Boehly came out and publicly praised the coach recently certainly backs up Marcotti’s speculating that the two parties are pulling in different directions. Whether or not that leads Boehly to sell part of his stake or just take more of a passive role overall remains to be seen, but as Marcotti points out, the overwhelming financial might is with Clearlake. Spoke a lot of sense. If it was because Poch wanted his way and be the boss, then ofsky is the right way. No way a manager will get that type of control unless your Pep. First season with Todd and Tuchel we saw what bad players we get when we go by the coach. I rather the club as a collective continue to buy, as for me they done good with buys after the first season disaster with Tuchel. Edited May 23, 2024 by Fernando Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 24, 2024 Share Posted May 24, 2024 Shame that they bought us in the first place. Boehly selling his stake would be a start, hopefully the other mob will fuck off too and sell to someone else who would actually care about the club. bigbluewillie, Vesper and Milan 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted May 24, 2024 Share Posted May 24, 2024 6 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Shame that they bought us in the first place. Boehly selling his stake would be a start, hopefully the other mob will fuck off too and sell to someone else who would actually care about the club. I don’t think there’s an argument to be made that they don’t care. they’ve spent on the club without an idea of the money coming back. They obviously do care. Question is if they’re competent Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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