🇩🇪 Kai Havertz

[shrenshah 186]

90Mn pounds on Havertz as per some reports, doesn't it seem a bit high...Sancho was available for 120Mn....Just sayin

Not my money so don't care but hope this does not affect upgrading our defense

[Puliiszola 519]

14 minutes ago, communicate said:

Never watched him and he better be absolutely world beater. 

There is a difference between generational talent and "World beater".

He is NOT a world beater at this moment. He is still a brilliant player but young (very young), will have his odd poor games. Just look at Felix for an example. But he will be as good if not better than eden was for us in terms of quality.

[Rapkun 668]

100m is so much money. We were in a good position to negotiate a lower transfer fee too. This was certainly our only shot at signing Havertz but this is far from a bargain. Big pressure now on the player and manager for him to deliver instantly. He's going to be a very easy target.

[Puliiszola 519]

5 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

So you would bench our player of the season and play out of position two world class players in Kante and Havertz just to accommodate Mount 

Kante is our best bet for a DM next season (if things stay exactly as they are as of this moment). I think Kai and ziyech will be switched with ziyech playing cnetrally and Kai on the wings in attack. Which leaves us with either mount or Kova in a 4-3-3 (no 8s/10s) or 4-2-3-1 with Kova and kante playing the double pivot. 

Dont think @MoroccanBlue's team was very off from what we will be playing next season.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,818]

I hope we have an actual rotation so we don't beat the same players to death. ManU has no depth, we will be better positioned to get players rest.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

3 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

Kante is our best bet for a DM next season (if things stay exactly as they are as of this moment). I think Kai and ziyech will be switched with ziyech playing cnetrally and Kai on the wings in attack. Which leaves us with either mount or Kova in a 4-3-3 (no 8s/10s) or 4-2-3-1 with Kova and kante playing the double pivot. 

Dont think @MoroccanBlue's team was very off from what we will be playing next season.

Unfortunately, i think the Bayern showing is why I believe the Kante=Kovacic pivot can't work. So imbalanced given neither player will 'sit'. Far too many gaps that were left which led Bayern to walk through the midfield. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

6 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

Kante is our best bet for a DM next season (if things stay exactly as they are as of this moment). I think Kai and ziyech will be switched with ziyech playing cnetrally and Kai on the wings in attack. Which leaves us with either mount or Kova in a 4-3-3 (no 8s/10s) or 4-2-3-1 with Kova and kante playing the double pivot. 

Dont think @MoroccanBlue's team was very off from what we will be playing next season.

 

14 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

There is a difference between generational talent and "World beater".

He is NOT a world beater at this moment. He is still a brilliant player but young (very young), will have his odd poor games. Just look at Felix for an example. But he will be as good if not better than eden was for us in terms of quality.

@NikkiCFC I used to think the same but Havertz sees himself as a right sided no.8

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/transfer-news/kai-havertz-chelsea-transfers-werner-18820137

so the lineup posted may very well be spot on

[NikkiCFC 8,322]

8 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

Kante is our best bet for a DM next season (if things stay exactly as they are as of this moment). I think Kai and ziyech will be switched with ziyech playing cnetrally and Kai on the wings in attack. Which leaves us with either mount or Kova in a 4-3-3 (no 8s/10s) or 4-2-3-1 with Kova and kante playing the double pivot. 

Dont think @MoroccanBlue's team was very off from what we will be playing next season.

Kante best position is in double pivot. Him playing alone DM can hurt us offensively. From what I have seen Havertz top3 positions are: RW, CF and AM. Number 8 only after that.

I also wanted to say this. Kai RW and Ziyech in the middle have more sense to me too.

[Puliiszola 519]

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Unfortunately, i think the Bayern showing is why I believe the Kante=Kovacic pivot can't work. So imbalanced given neither player will 'sit'. Far too many gaps that were left which led Bayern to walk through the midfield. 

Yup that pivot will have its issues, but it will still be our best option at times. But I have no doubt the 4-3-3 you posted might be the most used XI of our next season (as of this moment). Given how the squad is, you can understand why there were rumors that we would be listening to offers for Kante. If we can swap kante for Rice, would be the best thing for us as getting that sitting DM is necessary and the next thing in this team's evolution

[communicate 2,703]

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

 

I used to think the same but Havertz sees himself as a right sided no.8

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/transfer-news/kai-havertz-chelsea-transfers-werner-18820137

so the lineup posted may very well be spot on

No 8, no 10 doesn't really matter. It depend on what you are asking of him defensively.

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

10 minutes ago, Rapkun said:

100m is so much money. We were in a good position to negotiate a lower transfer fee too. This was certainly our only shot at signing Havertz but this is far from a bargain. Big pressure now on the player and manager for him to deliver instantly. He's going to be a very easy target.

We was in no position to get a lower fee, bayern wanted that money its quite simple.... pay it or piss off

[Puliiszola 519]

1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said:

Kante best position is in double pivot. Him playing alone DM can hurt us offensively. From what I have seen Havertz top3 positions are: RW, CF and AM. Number 8 only after that.

I also wanted to say this. Kai RW and Ziyech in the middle have more sense to me too.

Totally agree about Kante, but dont think we have an option. Jorginho in the team makes us weaker, Kova-Kante pivot has its issues (though i still think it will be one of FL's go to moves). 

Kante as a sitting DM might hurt us offensively a bit, but also give some semblance of defensive cover to what has become a VERY top heavy team. I have no doubt about it that atleast for the coming season, we are going to be looking to just outscoring teams. 

[DDA 9,939]

100m Euros really isn't that bad at all for a potential 'Generation talent'

If you look into and compare it to previous transfers in relation to the economic growth of football... it's actually a lower fee than what United paid for Rooney. 

Well that's what I read somewhere anyway lol.

Who gives a fuck anyway. I'm soo excited that we able to secure players of this calibre still 

[Puliiszola 519]

3 minutes ago, DDA said:

100m Euros really isn't that bad at all for a potential 'Generation talent'

If you look into and compare it to previous transfers in relation to the economic growth of football... it's actually a lower fee than what United paid for Rooney. 

Well that's what I read somewhere anyway lol.

Who gives a fuck anyway. I'm soo excited that we able to secure players of this calibre still 

Plus if its 100m euros, then even better. Apparently the last 10m euros are on PL/CL champions based. So perfect.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Unfortunately, i think the Bayern showing is why I believe the Kante=Kovacic pivot can't work. So imbalanced given neither player will 'sit'. Far too many gaps that were left which led Bayern to walk through the midfield. 

I dont see us signing another defensive midfielder or sacrificing another midfield position to accomodate Kante. Kante will need to do his best as sole holding DM.

I am also not quite sure if there is only one way dto bring out the best out of kante. he is not as limited as jorginho to only play one position in one system.

For France he has been deployed in different systems some of whch he was sitting next to fkin pogba who has no positional discipline whatsoever  in other games he was sitting next to matuidi who drifted to the right and ran up and down the touchline all game. You could argue he was at his best sitting next to Matic or Drinkwater at Leicester (sounds weird but is true lol) but you usually dont build your system around a defensive player who also happens to enter the twilight of his career

[Special Juan 28,141]

Here we go....he said it, this week

[Pulisicismydaddy 91]

 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

1 hour ago, Puliiszola said:

Anyone who has watched him can attest that he is a generational talent. Very much like Felix was. 

I hope he is far better than Felix talent wise because I'm not impressed by what I see from Felix at Athletico Madrid

[Fernando 6,585]

30 minutes ago, Pulisicismydaddy said:

 

lol you guys are crazy

[Special Juan 28,141]

Leverkusen are putting videos out building up to the goodbye for Havertz.