ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 hopefully soonΒ FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dimitr said: They cant get anything right and they "know" agent was ignoring calls?Β Right. 1chelsea, Strike and Atomiswave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,314 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Looking forward to watching Havertz and Werner in action tonite v Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 58 minutes ago, Patrick Bamford said: Β Sky Sports must have just loaded Twitter up on Internet Explorer... Nero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dimitr said: hahahahahahaha ... How dumb can things be ... So sad that he had no choice but Chelsea. It is going to be a long sad time at Chelsea for Havertz.Β Milan, 1chelsea and Dimitr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dimitr said: The way that is reported feels BS, although I think his desire to want to play for Real Madrid is not a secret. Was also reported elsewhere/Β Dimitr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jason said: The way that is reported feels BS, although I think his desire to want to play for Real Madrid is not a secret. Was also reported elsewhere/Β All that time that Kai was telling the media he wanted his transfer to Chelsea to happen quickly was just a cover for his backdoor deal to RM!!!Β He may have had an interest, but everything that he has said shows he moved on months ago.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 minute ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: All that time that Kai was telling the media he wanted his transfer to Chelsea to happen quickly was just a cover for his backdoor deal to RM!!!Β He may have had an interest, but everything that he has said shows he moved on months ago.Β Of course but that doesn't mean he won't harbor hopes of playing for them one day. Can see another Hazard situation playing out in maybe 2-3 years.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Donkeys, piano playing and his 'accidental' lunch with Rudi Voller - the making of Chelsea target Kai Havertz https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/03/making-chelsea-target-kai-havertz-donkeys-piano-playing-accidental/ Quote Bayer Leverkusen were plotting a way to convince a young Kai Havertz to join them, rather than any of the other interested clubs in Germany, when academy coach Slawomir Czarniecki came up with a plan. Czarniecki was due to show the Havertz family around the club, selling the Leverkusen vision and allowing Kai to watch first-team training, but he wanted one more trick up his sleeve. Czarniecki spoke to Michael Reschke, then Leverkusenβs sporting manager, and Germany legend Rudi VΓΆller. He told them he was planning to have lunch with the family of a player with extremely high potential, and asked them to βaccidentallyβ arrive at the same restaurant at the same time. βI told them to come in like it was a surprise to see us there,β Czarniecki tells Telegraph Sport. And so, just as the Havertz family were tucking into their lunch, they were suddenly faced with two of the most significant figures in German football.Β As if it was a happy coincidence, Reschke and VΓΆller promptly explained why Leverkusen would be the perfect place for young Kai to develop. After that, how could the family say no? βWhat we did, it was not normal,β says Czarniecki. βThis is not a normal story, not a normal process. It was special.β This all took place in the spring of 2010, when Havertz was just 10 years old. It was a special plan because Leverkusen knew that Havertz was a special talent. βHe was extraordinary compared to other players in his age group,β says Czarniecki. A decade after choosing Leverkusen, Havertz has now picked a new destination. The Premier League awaits for the 21-year-old attacking midfielder, who is set to join Chelsea in a move worth an initial Β£72 million. It is one of the most exciting deals of the summer, involving perhaps the most thrilling young player in Europe.Β Since the start of 2018-19, which was his real breakout season, only three players have scored more goals in the Bundesliga: βHe is already world class,β said Simon Rolfes, the Leverkusen director of sport, in an exclusive interview with Telegraph Sport earlier this summer. βA fantastic player, a fantastic goalscorer. He controls the rhythm of our game. He has great technique, he is fast, he can score with his head and with both feet. I donβt know what else you could need.β The size of the fee will come as no shock to those who have seen the growth of Havertz over the years, from his childhood in Mariadorf to his rise through the Leverkusen ranks as a teenager.Β In their early footballing years, most players face a few significant obstacles, or at least moments when their ability or attitude was doubted. Havertz, though, appeared destined to make it from the day he arrived at Leverkusen. Only a sudden growth spurt caused his progress to slow as he accelerated towards the first team, and even then it did not hinder him for long. βBy 13 or 14 he was outstanding,β says Rolfes. βIt was not a surprise he made it through.β The journey began when Havertz learned to play in his garden with his older brother, Jan. Havertzβs grandfather also helped, throwing him balls which he would shoot back into his arms. At four, his talent was so obvious that the Alemannia Mariadorf youth team broke their own rule against accepting players younger than five. In all competitions last season, he was directly involved in more goals than any other Bayer Leverkusen player in all competitions: Havertz consistently played with older boys and he was just eight years old when Leverkusen first made contact with his family. In 2009 he joined Alemannia Aachen and, soon enough, he came up against Leverkusenβs youth team. βHe was already playing for the Aachen under-12 side when he was 10,β says Czarniecki. βI remember the first time I saw him play. We won 8-3 but he scored three times. It was his speed, his lightness, his technical skill.β You would not think it now, as he stands at a towering 6ft 2in, but Havertz spent much of these early years as one of the smallest players in his team. At Leverkusen he was a late developer, physically rather than technically, and therefore did not play above his age level. It helped that his year group was particularly strong at the club, ensuring it was never too easy for a player of his technical gifts. βThe quality in training was sometimes higher than the quality of the matches,β says Czarniecki, who is now the sport coordinator for Leverkusenβs academy. βHe developed because he was playing with some of the best players in his age group every day. He had to train every day at a high level. Kai was a special player because he always played at 100 per cent. He pushed his limits.β For all his progress, Havertzβs family ensured he remained level-headed. His mother is a lawyer and his father is a policeman, and between them they ensured that Havertz faced no additional pressure.Β βI always told Kai that his biggest benefit, compared to other players, was his social environment,β says Czarniecki. βThe other players were always analysed by their parents. But Kai, with his family, he was just a boy. At home he was not this rising star. A lot of parents destroy the careers of their children by being coaches at home, but his family kept him calm.β Still, his sporting talent was hard to ignore. Czarniecki recalls a feedback session with Havertz when they played tennis before discussing his progress. He was taken aback by Havertzβs ability in this completely different sport. βHe could have been a tennis player too,β he adds. Only Thomas Muller created more chances than him from open play in the Bundesliga last season, and that was a pretty historic season for Muller in terms of assists (21). A growth spurt at the age of around 15 was, in Havertzβs words, βpretty dramaticβ. It affected his co-ordination for a while, even leading to him spending some time as a substitute. But he soon adjusted to his elongated limbs and, at the age of just 17 years and 126 days, he became the youngest player to ever feature for Leverkusen in the Bundesliga. βWhen he started training with the first team he adapted so quickly to the different speed of the game,β says Rolfes. βThen you could see he had a lot of potential. Not only to be a really good player on a national level, but to be an international top star.β It speaks volumes of Havertzβs grounded nature, and the guidance provided by his family, that he continued to pursue his academic qualifications. Studying for exams while managing the stresses of playing in the Bundesliga was rarely straightforward, but Leverkusen coach Roger Schmidt insisted he did not give up. Havertz even missed a Champions League game against Atletico Madrid because he had to prepare for tests. βMany of my classmates were die-hard Bayer fans,β he told German sports website Spox in 2018. βA couple of times I sat in class and a teacher came to ask me if I could go to her class because the children would be very happy about it.β Away from the field, Havertz is no extrovert. He plays the piano, which helps him to switch off, and has a passion for donkeys. He has said that, when he was a child, he and his family rescued a donkey from being sent to a slaughterhouse. βFor me it always feels great being able to run alongside a donkey who you know would have died without your help,β he said in an interview with the Leverkusen website. βIn the next few years, animal protection will be a big issue for me.β An elegant playmaker with an eye for goal, Havertz the footballer has largely gone from strength to strength in his four seasons in the Leverkusen first team. Since the start of the 2016-17 season, he has scored 36 league goals and made 22 assists in the league. In December he became the youngest player to reach 100 Bundesliga appearances. His form did dip at the start of last season, however, and he was even whistled by his own supporters at one stage. But in the second half of the campaign Havertz exploded into life, scoring 10 goals in Leverkusenβs final 13 games in all competitions.Β Chelseaβs willingness to invest this summer, coupled with the financial uncertainty facing so many of Europeβs biggest clubs, ensured that Frank Lampardβs side had the advantage in the race for his signature. It is understood that Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has consistently expressed his desire for Havertz to be signed, and has personally pushed for the deal to be completed. Despite the fee, the expectation is that Havertz will need some time to adapt to his new surroundings. He has time on his side, though, and it will be a frightening thought for Chelseaβs rivals that he will surely become even better in the coming years. βThe current generation of leading players, Messi and Ronaldo, they are finishing their careers,β says Czarniecki. βKai is 21 and has already played four seasons for Leverkusen. We are talking about a young player who has had a great development. There are steps to take, and there will be challenges, but honestly I think he could be one of the best players in Europe.β NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Of course but that doesn't mean he won't harbor hopes of playing for them one day. Can see another Hazard situation playing out in maybe 2-3 years.Β Maybe if you mention it for the 451564165461054th time, the situation will change... Just like other members speaking about Pulisic and his injuries, you should shut the fuck up as well Β guddy69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Just now, Milan said: Maybe if you mention it for the 451564165461054th time, the situation will change... Just like other members speaking about Pulisic and his injuries, you should shut the fuck up as well Β I can't. I got burned so hard from Mata leaving for Man United and I haven't emotionally recovered... lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 The goal is : keep havertz for 6-7 years and then let him go like hazardΒ (29 years old ) Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jason said: I can't. I got burned so hard from Mata leaving for Man United and I haven't emotionally recovered... Same , so sad he only had 2 proper seasons with usΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jason said: Of course but that doesn't mean he won't harbor hopes of playing for them one day. Can see another Hazard situation playing out in maybe 2-3 years.Β Hopefully a bit longer than 2-3 years but I've got no problem with this.Β In order to get that move to Real Madrid, he will have to be performing at a consistently high level for us. We get a few years quality service from him and then sell him on for almost certainly a profit seems a winning situation to me.Β I would much rather that problem than an expensive flop on our hands that we need to try to now get rid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said: Hopefully a bit longer than 2-3 years but I've got no problem with this.Β In order to get that move to Real Madrid, he will have to be performing at a consistently high level for us. We get a few years quality service from him and then sell him on for almost certainly a profit seems a winning situation to me.Β I would much rather that problem than an expensive flop on our hands that we need to try to now get rid of. Would be nice though if we aren't seen as some sort of stepping stone to Real Madrid or Barcelona... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 58 minutes ago, Dimitr said: Horse shit, someone is butt hurt here.....pathetic back -hand tactics this. Dimitr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Where did he say he'd like to go to Real at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdo 583 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Where did he say he'd like to go to Real at some point? google kai havertz and real madrid and you'll find many reports from around june. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrenshah 186 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 To think about it, feels nice that the most expensive player we have ever bought will no longer be Kepa... 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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