🇩🇪 Kai Havertz

[kellzfresh 7,229]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

this is totally anecdotal, but a German presenter (who partners with an native English speaker) said that Havertz had shit luck with players he set up missing so many sitters and/or decent chances and also cocking up a counters or flow of play key passes from him

wish I could recall the bloke's name, but every time I see him present a game he is a fucking encyclopaedia on German football

If we get him, then we are replacing Willian and Pedro with Ziyech and Kai.
And Michy with Werner.

That’s a freakin’ scary upgrade.

[Vesper 30,178]

29 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

If we get him, then we are replacing Willian and Pedro with Ziyech and Kai.
And Michy with Werner.

That’s a freakin’ scary upgrade.

well, since Roman has bought the team

we have had, at one time or another, if just for a year or too, but then perhaps again

the best in the world

GK Cech

CB Terry

LB Ashley Cole

DMF Claude Makélélé

DMF Kante

AMF Lampard

CF Didier Drogba

and Hazard as 2nd best LWer (after Neymar) 3rd if you count CR7, but he plays all the over the pitch, so hard to just call him a winger (Mbappe is like that now)

so it isn't like he have not had best in world talent before (Havertz obviously, if he stays at AMF will be the best after De Bruyne slows down), those two are just streets ahead of the others on the planet there atm

if we were to snag Alaba, he has been the best LB on the planet for ages, until Davies exploded this season, and forced him to CB (as did injuries at CB for Bayern) We also cocked up multiple shots at the number best LB at the time, Alex Sandro (fuck Jordi Alba, always detested him, he would have gotten smashed up in the EPL, little spoilt dwarf, Marcelo was a joke as a defender, worse than Alonso, or close)

fucking sucks that Oblak turned us down in 2018 or we would have the best GK now too

Werner is arguably the best SS or CF with two up top on the planet (Dybala would be his only real competition there)

In 3 or 4 years I predict Camavinga will be the best or 2nd DMF on the planet, IF Kimmich goes back to RB, and as he is 8 years younger, so will get there anyway (with completion from Tonali who I also have been pushing hard for ages)

Saúl Ñíguez is the best pure CMF on the planet, unless, unless you count Frenckie de Jong (obviously not buyable) as a pure CMF, and even then, I think they are probably tied, with slight edge to Saul atm

Hell, de Ligt (swap for Jorginho and Emerson?) has best CB on the planet POTENTIAL (not remotely there yet but the lad was still a teen at the very beginning of this season)

IF we somehow did a swap with Real, Kante for Varane, we would have the best or 2nd best CB on the planet

there is always a method to my madness, lolol

if we had not fucked about and cocked up so many sales and buys between summer 2016 and summer 2019, we could have had the cash to pay for most of those, some then, some now (and had Oblak a year before he turn us down, when we were coming off a championship year  and had CL footie to offer)

[King Kante 1,643]

What position is everyone thinking Harvetz will play if he comes in? When ever I have seen him I thought No.6/No.8/No.10 and the only reason he plays the other attacking positions is due to him being so good and playing for Bayer. However, when I see everyone else talking about him they seem to think if him as a No.11/false No.9. Am I missing something? For me if we signed him we would line up as: 

                        Jorgi/Gilmour 

  Harvetz/Kova.                       Mount/RLC 

Ziyech.                Tammy.                 Pulisic 

*yes I do expect Kante to be sold if a decent bid comes in (although it may be Jorgi who goes then Kante stays.) 

 

[Vesper 30,178]

12 minutes ago, King Kante said:

What position is everyone thinking Harvetz will play if he comes in? When ever I have seen him I thought No.6/No.8/No.10 and the only reason he plays the other attacking positions is due to him being so good and playing for Bayer. However, when I see everyone else talking about him they seem to think if him as a No.11/false No.9. Am I missing something? For me if we signed him we would line up as: 

                        Jorgi/Gilmour 

  Harvetz/Kova.                       Mount/RLC 

Ziyech.                Tammy.                 Pulisic 

*yes I do expect Kante to be sold if a decent bid comes in (although it may be Jorgi who goes then Kante stays.) 

 

floating AMF

CF

SS or as one of the 2 CF's with Werner in a front two (with Ziyech then behind them)

RW or LW

ie

wherever Lampard wants him

[BlueLyon 9,359]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

well, since Roman has bought the team

we have had, at one time or another, if just for a year or too, but then perhaps again

the best in the world

GK Cech

CB Terry

LB Ashley Cole

DMF Claude Makélélé

DMF Kante

AMF Lampard

CF Didier Drogba

and Hazard as 2nd best LWer (after Neymar) 3rd if you count CR7, but he plays all the over the pitch, so hard to just call him a winger (Mbappe is like that now)

so it isn't like he have not had best in world talent before (Havertz obviously, if he stays at AMF will be the best after De Bruyne slows down), those two are just streets ahead of the others on the planet there atm

if we were to snag Alaba, he has been the best LB on the planet for ages, until Davies exploded this season, and forced him to CB (as did injuries at CB for Bayern) We also cocked up multiple shots at the number best LB at the time, Alex Sandro (fuck Jordi Alba, always detested him, he would have gotten smashed up in the EPL, little spoilt dwarf, Marcelo was a joke as a defender, worse than Alonso, or close)

fucking sucks that Oblak turned us down in 2018 or we would have the best GK now too

Werner is arguably the best SS or CF with two up top on the planet (Dybala would be his only real competition there)

In 3 or 4 years I predict Camavinga will be the best or 2nd DMF on the planet, IF Kimmich goes back to RB, and as he is 8 years younger, so will get there anyway (with completion from Tonali who I also have been pushing hard for ages)

Saúl Ñíguez is the best pure CMF on the planet, unless, unless you count Frenckie de Jong (obviously not buyable) as a pure CMF, and even then, I think they are probably tied, with slight edge to Saul atm

Hell, de Ligt (swap for Jorginho and Emerson?) has best CB on the planet POTENTIAL (not remotely there yet but the lad was still a teen at the very beginning of this season)

IF we somehow did a swap with Real, Kante for Varane, we would have the best or 2nd best CB on the planet

there is always a method to my madness, lolol

if we had not fucked about and cocked up so many sales and buys between summer 2016 and summer 2019, we could have had the cash to pay for most of those, some then, some now (and had Oblak a year before he turn us down, when we were coming off a championship year  and had CL footie to offer)

The one player I wish we signed is Dani Alves. He said it himself that everything was done for him to join chelsea but then he was sold to barca. 

He was a cunt but absolutely fantastic rb. Imagine him and Cole in same side.

[shrenshah 186]

Ziyech and Havertz will be switching positions continuously in game between AM and RW

[OhForAGreavsie 6,075]

3 hours ago, shrenshah said:

Ziyech and Havertz will be switching positions continuously in game between AM and RW

??

You could say let's not get ahead of ourselves, or you could say we might as well enjoy the speculation while we can.  

[shrenshah 186]

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You could say let's not get ahead of ourselves, or you could say we might as well enjoy the speculation while we can.  

Its fairytale land currently [emoji14]

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[kellzfresh 7,229]

"It's also a bit of a paradox when you always talk about new signings and at the same time reduce salaries" - said Thomas Müller on a possible Havertz signing [bild]

[NikkiCFC 8,320]

5 hours ago, kellzfresh said:

"It's also a bit of a paradox when you always talk about new signings and at the same time reduce salaries" - said Thomas Müller on a possible Havertz signing [bild]

Yep, can not see how can Bayern justify 100m transfer when they reduced salaries. Not money wise but in front of players.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

------Werner-----------------------------Havertz------------------------------------Ziyech--------

----------------Kovacic-----------------------------------------------------Gilmour------------------

--------------------------------------------Jorginho-----------------------------------------------------

 

That would be some tiki taka right there;)

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

I've come down to earth now. I think we probably wont get him.

Just a gut feeling.

Has nothing to do with reason lol.

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[Dimitr 488]

I don’t know if we can pay 100millions € to Leverkusen for Kai . 
And after this to pay another 50m£ to chilwell.

[Vesper 30,178]

Everything I am seeing on Chilwell shows zero signs the last couple days of Leicester coming off the £80m valuation. In fact I saw £85m tossed out.

It is madness to fuck off a chance at Havertz just to overpay by £40m or or more for a LB who I remain unsold on anyway.

So many on social media rare acting like Chilwell is the bloody second coming of Cafu, ffs.

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Everything I am seeing on Chilwell shows zero signs the last couple days of Leicester coming off the £80m valuation. In fact I saw £85m tossed out.

It is madness to fuck off a chance at Havertz just to overpay by £40m or or more for a LB who I remain unsold on anyway.

So many on social media rare acting like Chilwell is the bloody second coming of Cafu, ffs.

[Pizy 18,909]

I think we'd go back to the 4-2-3-1 of past Chelsea sides if Havertz comes in.

 

-----------------------Tammy------------------

Werner-------------Havertz---------------Ziyech

--------------Kovacic--------Kante------------

LB--------Tomori-----------Rudiger----------James

------------------------Kepa------------------------

That is one HELL of a first XI with the likes of Pulisic, CHO, Jorginho, Billy, Mount, RLC etc to rotate in at any given time. That's a squad that's good enough to at least challenge Liverpool and City. Especially with Kante back in his natural position destroying everyone.

[Vesper 30,178]

13 minutes ago, Jason said:

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Vesper said:

LOOOOOOOOL

[Vesper 30,178]

Just now, Jason said:

LOOOOOOOOL

[jandomi10 82]

Bayern are concentrating their efforts on signing Leroy Sané from Manchester City this summer, and there's only an outside chance they're willing or able to commit the best part of €150m on Havertz (fee and wages). A right-back is higher on their list of priorities [@honigstein]