Ben Chilwell

[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, Jype said:

I bet most of the Leicester fans now saying Chillwell is shit are only saying that because they accepted a long time ago that he's leaving for a bigger club and are now desperate to bash him to feel better about it. Reminds me of Spurs fans when Walker went to City, he supposedly turned shit overnight too.

It's clear Chillwell didn't have a good end to the season but then again neither did anyone else at Leicester. Still you don't see them saying the likes of Söyüncü, Ndidi or Maddison are shit because they're not going anywhere but the fact is none of those players played any better than Chillwell either.

I too am not fully sold on Chillwell at a world-record fee for a LB but first of all I'd wait to see what the actual price ends up being if the deal does go through. If the initial fee is not something ridiculous and a big chunk of the full fee is tied to add-ons I'm fully behind the transfer so let's wait and see. As long as the LB signing, whether Chillwell or someone else, is kept within the budget so enough money is left to improve other areas I'm happy.

Nah, LCFC fans have been saying he was sh*t/overrated for a long time. I went to their forum to see what they thought as I am not sold on him and thought I was maybe missing something. Turn's out they had the same opinion as I do. Average player who is vastly overrated and they think they could upgrade fairly easily. If big money comes in most of them will offer to drive him themselves. 

Only way this works out well is if this is some sort of SFL situation with WHU, although then, I actually rated SFL and had to defend his transfer with other football fans/Chelsea fans for the best part of 18 months after he signed. 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

21 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Nah, LCFC fans have been saying he was sh*t/overrated for a long time. I went to their forum to see what they thought as I am not sold on him and thought I was maybe missing something. Turn's out they had the same opinion as I do. Average player who is vastly overrated and they think they could upgrade fairly easily. If big money comes in most of them will offer to drive him themselves. 

Only way this works out well is if this is some sort of SFL situation with WHU, although then, I actually rated SFL and had to defend his transfer with other football fans/Chelsea fans for the best part of 18 months after he signed. 

Yeah their fans are more than glad to get rid for such a fee, he is not worth such an outlay imo. Regu all day for me if we can iron out that buyback clause.

[Dec 33]

A family member of mine is an analyst at Leicester and we were talking about Chilwell. He says physically he's one of the best at the club, however, he just doesn't have the tactical capabilities to understand what is required. This is a major worry.

[King Kante 1,643]

7 minutes ago, Dec said:

A family member of mine is an analyst at Leicester and we were talking about Chilwell. He says physically he's one of the best at the club, however, he just doesn't have the tactical capabilities to understand what is required. This is a major worry.

This is what I think is everyone who has watched him extensively concern. Anyone that bothers can see it being said about him from all quarters. 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

For anyone saying but Lamps wants him, so he must be good. 

Yes Lamps was a great great player and played with great players, but just how long is he a manager and how experienced is he with transfers? Right. And surely there will be english bias etc. 

Chilwell might turn well, but every single fan prefers cheaper and better alternatives. If Chilwell flops I hope the board gets sacked and we get someone who knows market better.

[King Kante 1,643]

5 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

For anyone saying but Lamps wants him, so he must be good. 

Yes Lamps was a great great player and played with great players, but just how long is he a manager and how experienced is he with transfers? Right. And surely there will be english bias etc. 

Chilwell might turn well, but every single fan prefers cheaper and better alternatives. If Chilwell flops I hope the board gets sacked and we get someone who knows market better.

I don't know about that. Maybe SFL does want him but his profile also fits the Morata/Kepa/Bakayoko/Batsh*t/Emerson/Barkley play book. I.e. age 21-24, highly rated by a lot of the chattering classes in football and looks like if they flop you would be able to shift without too much of a loss (easier said than done.) 

SFL may want him but he also fits the profile of player we have been targeting/buying for years. 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

29 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I don't know about that. Maybe SFL does want him but his profile also fits the Morata/Kepa/Bakayoko/Batsh*t/Emerson/Barkley play book. I.e. age 21-24, highly rated by a lot of the chattering classes in football and looks like if they flop you would be able to shift without too much of a loss (easier said than done.) 

SFL may want him but he also fits the profile of player we have been targeting/buying for years. 

if thats the case, our board learned nothing and we wont build quality side at all. 

[Jase 43,479]

37 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I don't know about that. Maybe SFL does want him but his profile also fits the Morata/Kepa/Bakayoko/Batsh*t/Emerson/Barkley play book. I.e. age 21-24, highly rated by a lot of the chattering classes in football and looks like if they flop you would be able to shift without too much of a loss (easier said than done.) 

SFL may want him but he also fits the profile of player we have been targeting/buying for years. 

Not sure why you only mentioned those average players/flops because let's be fair here, do Werner, Havertz, Chilwell, Reguilon etc not fit into the same profile too? 

[Jase 43,479]

4 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Yes Lamps was a great great player and played with great players, but just how long is he a manager and how experienced is he with transfers?

Think the better question is whether Lampard is a good judge of talent and quality. Don't think experience matters much at all as long as that person knows how to spot a talent. 

[King Kante 1,643]

27 minutes ago, Jason said:

Not sure why you only mentioned those average players/flops because let's be fair here, do Werner, Havertz, Chilwell, Reguilon etc not fit into the same profile too? 

I wouldn't say so. Werner hits the Costa/Kante play book more in that he is a highly rated talent with a low buyout clause for his skill level (to be fair to the club they are very good at doing these deals.) Havertz, is more like a Hazard type signing in that he is rated by everyone and is seen as a generational talent. His signing is one we haven't seen for a while. Neymar is probably the only other time, outside of Hazard that we have tried for this (Pele fu*ked us over on that one) in the past 10-12 years.

Regulion I agree is similar. However, at half the cost (although his rumoured buy back is an issue.) 

[Fernando 6,585]

1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

For anyone saying but Lamps wants him, so he must be good. 

Yes Lamps was a great great player and played with great players, but just how long is he a manager and how experienced is he with transfers? Right. And surely there will be english bias etc. 

Chilwell might turn well, but every single fan prefers cheaper and better alternatives. If Chilwell flops I hope the board gets sacked and we get someone who knows market better.

Chilwell is an awesome player. 

He had a dip in form like the entire Leicster squad post Covid. 

But he is still a top buy for age and nationality. 

[Special Juan 28,091]

I fully get everyone has opinions on different players and who we should and shouldn't get but the sheer negativity around here, not just Chilwell but in general really does sadden me.

 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,799]

43 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

I fully get everyone has opinions on different players and who we should and shouldn't get but the sheer negativity around here, not just Chilwell but in general really does sadden me.

 

This place is beaming with joy compared to the Red Cafe. I do share the optimism of our club. We are moving in the right direction and have quality signings coming in. There are not many clubs that can say the same right now.

[Dimitr 488]

[DDA 9,924]

It's a matter of when not if. 

Frank want's to bum Chilwells head off.