closed Chelsea 2-0 Wolves

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1 hour ago, Puliiszola said:

10 different posters have given you a different articles to several reasons why we will NOT HAVE to sell kante. 

If you want to be stubborn about it , that's your choice. I am out.

Out? Or out out? 👍

https://g.co/kgs/jTwdJM

 

 

[King Kante 1,643]

I have zero faith that we will get the result needed tomorrow and reckon we will need Utd to bail us out. I honestly have no faith whatsoever in our GK and defence. Having absolute nightmares of Moutinho and Neves whipping in balls to Jimenez and Traore and Jota breaking on a counter. 

[Jase 43,479]

6 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I have zero faith that we will get the result needed tomorrow and reckon we will need Utd to bail us out. I honestly have no faith whatsoever in our GK and defence. Having absolute nightmares of Moutinho and Neves whipping in balls to Jimenez and Traore and Jota breaking on a counter. 

How many times do you want to tell us that...?  

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

I would love this to bea boring draw but knowing us this will be super tight where we either collapse in the last second or somehow get it over the line hanging on for our lives.

Wolves are a very competent side   I dont want to see Jorginho from the start. we need energy in the middle,their midfielders and central defenders are notexactly quick and can be vulnerable when isolated and run at. Our match plan for most of the restart has been to work free a player onthe right to cross to Giroud. I can imagine, Boly and coady will be rather comfortable with this approach. but if we are able to get behind their wingbacks and isolate pulisic vs one of their cbs, i can see us getting pens.

Obviously we are gonna start the match by wasting 5 glorious chances as usual.

[Vesper 30,194]

I cannot recall when I have been more nervous before a game in the past few years

so much (long term, not just short) riding on this

a massive boost to our bottom line (and thus transfers)

 

[Vesper 30,194]

8 hours ago, Puliiszola said:

Bakayoko is a Chelsea player and on our books. Whatever we get from his sale will also be included in profits on the company books.

Also I quoted 60m € (54m £) for jorginho and Barkley , while you say 50m £. Hardly any difference. 

In short, literally no reason whatsoever to sell kante. 

ZERO chance, less than zero, we sell Jorginho + Barkley for only a combined £54m

have you see the prices that Marina has demanded for players? have you seen the offers she has turned down for players?

hell if Juve came in and Monday said £54m for Jorginho, I bet she would semi dig in her heels and try and go for £6 to 8m more

[Vesper 30,194]

10 hours ago, BXL70 said:

CL is a at least 30 million as additional cash not taking into account knock-out stages + higher negotiating power for transfers. Qualifying fo the CL or not will drive our transfer market and shape our team.

smart lad

[Vesper 30,194]

10 hours ago, BXL70 said:

Again, and I repeat myself, Bakayoko is a loanee, hence he bring us revenues.

Not sure if we can get 80£ from selling Barkley and Jorginho. More like 50£ if you ask me given current circumstances. But apparently, you are in the know much more than I am. 

this is what we are looking at in terms of sales

 £500-550m or so (it dicey to say exactly) worth of players here en toto (pre-COVID valuations are more when you count every single one listed) but obviously not all can be sold in one window

 

We need to sell (so much dregs , my head spins every time)

Álvaro Morata (Done, great business)
Mario Pasalic (Done, and yes, we got hosed for around £15m, but we had no guarantees at the time, I am not that upset)
Andreas Christensen (he has GOT to go and be upgraded upon, I would prefer both he and Zouma be sold, but that is probably not happening in one window unless we get 2 incredible buy deals tossed into our laps, which is so unlikely) I just do not see what Lamps sees in our 4 main CB's, they (and Kepa) make my tummy churn every game. Even Alonso has not done that for ages (I have been happy with his pay overall, except for that West Ham choke, arrrrffff).
Ross Barkley (if we can get say £30m, even 35m (he is English and is only 26 and is in his prime) for him, he will never be worth more (well COVID maybe lowers that a bit, but not much) plus Bayer failed to get CL then a Barks sale plus Havertz buy is only around £45-55m or so net spend)
Tiemoué Bakayoko  
Emerson
Michy Batshuayi
Davide Zappacosta
Danny Drinkwater  (SMDH)
Jorginho  (Juve need to cough up serious cash or work a swap deal involving de Ligt for Jorgi plus cash or maybe Emerson as I rate those 2 as being worth £70-80m-ish, although that is probably an pipe dream now that he has rebounded a bit the last 6 months)
Abdul Rahman Baba
Victor Moses    
Kenedy   
Marco van Ginkel
Juan Familia-Castillo (as Ajax did not exercise their option to buy, or keep him and see if he can ever be a decent LB, which looks doubtful atm, based off my watching him in Holland)
Nathan   
Charly Musonda Jr.    
Danilo Pantic  
Matt Miazga    
Lewis Baker   
Jamal Blackman
Lucas Piazón 
Jake Clarke-Salter
Izzy Brown
Josh Grant    
Richard Nartey (released)
Luke McCormick    
Jacob Maddox   

 

We could sell 

Kepa    (not likely, especially due to crazy wages for the next 5 years and his £72m transfer fee, ie. how much are we willing to lose of that overall)
Zouma (sorry, he is shit too)
Marcos Alonso (only if we buy two LB's which is not likely this window, I am oki with him as a the backup as he is curve ball option in certain types of games)   
N'Golo Kanté    (only way I see him being sold is if we get Rice and a really HIGH offer comes in. Here is a reality check either way: he is injured far too often and his value has already plummeted and truly will plummet after this summer. It is complicated, and made further complicated by the fact he is NOWHERE near WC as an RMF in a 3 man MF, he simply is not that great there, other than an odd game here and there, Lampard jacked up the team forcing him back in too early)
Olivier Giroud    (I would keep him)
Rudiger  (very unlikely, especially as he is helping recruit these German players, plus I expect him to rebound, go back to a higher level of play, I know many hate him, but it is what it is and I have faith he screws his head on tight next year)

 

Leave on a free

Willian   (unless he renews for 2 years, which he still says no way to)
Pedro  

[Vesper 30,194]

LAMPARD DRAWS PARALLELS WITH 2003 AS FINAL-DAY DECIDER LOOMS

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2020/07/26/frank-lampard-draws-parallels-with-2003-as-final-day-decider-loo?cardIndex=0-0

‘We’re not quite in that situation this time but we have an opportunity to get a position that maybe people didn’t expect us to be in...'

There is not as much on the line today as the final day of the 2002/03 Premier League season, when Chelsea faced Liverpool in a win-or-bust clash for Champions League qualification which had significant consequences for the financial health of the football club, though Frank Lampard can draw some parallels with the tension of that day 17 years ago as he prepares his Blues side to face a final-day decider of their own this afternoon.

The Blues host Wolverhampton Wanderers at Stamford Bridge with their top-four fate in their own hands; avoid defeat against the Midlanders and a place at the top table of European competition next season will be ours.

We have an insurance policy too in that a Manchester United win at Leicester City will also secure a finish in the top four for Lampard’s side, though the boss is not considering that possibility as he seeks the three points that would complete the delayed and doubted objective of Champions League qualification.

snip

[Valdo 583]

Win win win, let's show these wolves what lions can do when cornered. I don't want to rely on manu to do us a favor.

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[Puliiszola 519]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

ZERO chance, less than zero, we sell Jorginho + Barkley for only a combined £54m

have you see the prices that Marina has demanded for players? have you seen the offers she has turned down for players?

hell if Juve came in and Monday said £54m for Jorginho, I bet she would semi dig in her heels and try and go for £6 to 8m more

I know. Very conservative figures of 40m€ and 20m € for jorginho and Barkley. 

Just to clear the point that it's very doable.

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5 hours ago, Vesper said:

this is what we are looking at in terms of sales

 £500-550m or so (it dicey to say exactly) worth of players here en toto (pre-COVID valuations are more when you count every single one listed) but obviously not all can be sold in one window

 

We need to sell (so much dregs , my head spins every time)

Álvaro Morata (Done, great business)
Mario Pasalic (Done, and yes, we got hosed for around £15m, but we had no guarantees at the time, I am not that upset)
Andreas Christensen (he has GOT to go and be upgraded upon, I would prefer both he and Zouma be sold, but that is probably not happening in one window unless we get 2 incredible buy deals tossed into our laps, which is so unlikely) I just do not see what Lamps sees in our 4 main CB's, they (and Kepa) make my tummy churn every game. Even Alonso has not done that for ages (I have been happy with his pay overall, except for that West Ham choke, arrrrffff).
Ross Barkley (if we can get say £30m, even 35m (he is English and is only 26 and is in his prime) for him, he will never be worth more (well COVID maybe lowers that a bit, but not much) plus Bayer failed to get CL then a Barks sale plus Havertz buy is only around £45-55m or so net spend)
Tiemoué Bakayoko  
Emerson
Michy Batshuayi
Davide Zappacosta
Danny Drinkwater  (SMDH)
Jorginho  (Juve need to cough up serious cash or work a swap deal involving de Ligt for Jorgi plus cash or maybe Emerson as I rate those 2 as being worth £70-80m-ish, although that is probably an pipe dream now that he has rebounded a bit the last 6 months)
Abdul Rahman Baba
Victor Moses    
Kenedy   
Marco van Ginkel
Juan Familia-Castillo (as Ajax did not exercise their option to buy, or keep him and see if he can ever be a decent LB, which looks doubtful atm, based off my watching him in Holland)
Nathan   
Charly Musonda Jr.    
Danilo Pantic  
Matt Miazga    
Lewis Baker   
Jamal Blackman
Lucas Piazón 
Jake Clarke-Salter
Izzy Brown
Josh Grant    
Richard Nartey (released)
Luke McCormick    
Jacob Maddox   

 

We could sell 

Kepa    (not likely, especially due to crazy wages for the next 5 years and his £72m transfer fee, ie. how much are we willing to lose of that overall)
Zouma (sorry, he is shit too)
Marcos Alonso (only if we buy two LB's which is not likely this window, I am oki with him as a the backup as he is curve ball option in certain types of games)   
N'Golo Kanté    (only way I see him being sold is if we get Rice and a really HIGH offer comes in. Here is a reality check either way: he is injured far too often and his value has already plummeted and truly will plummet after this summer. It is complicated, and made further complicated by the fact he is NOWHERE near WC as an RMF in a 3 man MF, he simply is not that great there, other than an odd game here and there, Lampard jacked up the team forcing him back in too early)
Olivier Giroud    (I would keep him)
Rudiger  (very unlikely, especially as he is helping recruit these German players, plus I expect him to rebound, go back to a higher level of play, I know many hate him, but it is what it is and I have faith he screws his head on tight next year)

 

Leave on a free

Willian   (unless he renews for 2 years, which he still says no way to)
Pedro  

Wow so many players in the first list who are shite 😳 

That's the legacy of so many managers over the past 10 years.

We need some stability now and let SFL trim it down and clear the dead wood.

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

I cannot recall when I have been more nervous before a game in the past few years
so much (long term, not just short) riding on this
a massive boost to our bottom line (and thus transfers)
 

I dont even feel much pressure. 2 games have to go the other way. Leicester beating United is unlikely

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[Laylabelle 9,535]

Don't have stupid moments..dont lose last minute..be nice if could defend corners....

Don't defend like Wed's and other games...

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Vesper 30,194]

43 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said:

I dont even feel much pressure. 2 games have to go the other way. Leicester beating United is unlikely

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I so do not trust other teams

look at the last day of the Championship for instance

utter madness ran riot all over

[communicate 2,703]

17 hours ago, BXL70 said:

Kanté is our main asset that can be sold at high price. 

So what happen after we sell Kante? 

Are we going to play kova - Gilmour midfield? 

[King Kante 1,643]

12 hours ago, Jason said:

How many times do you want to tell us that...?  

When have I said it before? 

[Jase 43,479]

11 minutes ago, King Kante said:

When have I said it before? 

On Thursday...

On 7/23/2020 at 10:15 PM, King Kante said:

I really think we are going to lose this one. Wolves as a match up are an absolute nightmare for us as they have: 

1) Jota, Traore and Jimenez who are great at springing the counter.

2) A back 3 that are very good at playing the low block

3) Neves and Moutinho standing over set pieces.

On top of this, they have had a week off and they need to win to ensure they do not have to play Ropey League qualifying. At this point I reckon we need a Utd win. 

Before anyone says it, the 5-3 win early in the season came at a time Wolves were completely shagged out from playing Rooey League qualifying all Summer. People need to remember they started the season with 3/4 points out of 18. If they hadn't been in the Ropey League I am certain they would've qualified for the CL this year. 

 

[Laylabelle 9,535]

I like a nice relaxing last game of the season..listening to other teams drama...not going in with uncertainty. 

Gana be a looooong 90...and long wait till 4.00..