Mikel John Obi

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Makelele was slamed by lot of people when he was in RM. Only the players knew how important he was for them. Once he left, we all know what happend to that team.

Mikel has big role nowdays, sure far from being fancy and that shit, but he does his job very well. DMs dont play fancy, but that doesnt mean they are not important.

[Amblève. 4,995]

And you call us deluded.

Actually, I call your delusion beyond hope.

[Kojo 4,676]

Actually, I call your delusion beyond hope.

Why because i don't think Mikel is the best DM in the world like most of you on here?.

[Amblève. 4,995]

Why because i don't think Mikel is the best DM in the world like most of you on here?.

Simply because your comments on Mikel are ridiculous.

Nobody's claiming that Mikel's the best DM in the world right now, just read carefully and you'll maybe understand. No need to bring that up, anyway.

[Kojo 4,676]

Simply because your comments on Mikel are ridiculous.

Nobody's claiming that Mikel's the best DM in the world right now, just read carefully and you'll maybe understand. No need to bring that up, anyway.

Oh the irony.

[Amblève. 4,995]

Oh the irony.

Just continue. We're all thankful for witnessing the biggest delusion in the recent history of TC.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Alright I want a clean debate:

No name calling

No personal insults

No thread derailment

Keep it informative

1,2,3..discuss!

[Henrique 9,133]

You know what? I can't await to see Mikel retiring and going down as a Chelsea legend in 10 years time and laughing at all you deluded fools.

Same way Ferreira and Bosingwa are legends.

[Styles 9,790]

Same way Ferreira and Bosingwa are legends.

lol

Henrique wassup? Long time friend

[Amblève. 4,995]

Same way Ferreira and Bosingwa are legends.

What a comparison Smh.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Mikel has stepped up this season, it can't be denied.. He's doing the job where it's most required from this team, his adaptation, concentration & tactical awareness is on point. Not saying he's the best DM in the world or anything, but he has been far more consistent than any other players.

[Kojo 4,676]

Mikel has stepped up this season, it can't be denied.. He's doing the job where it's most required from this team, his adaptation, concentration & tactical awareness is on point. Not saying he's the best DM in the world or anything, but he has been far more consistent than any other players.

He's always going to be a problem when the other team are on the counter, and that's a huge risk, also his marking, especially in the box is tragic.

[wj818 25]

He's always going to be a problem when the other team are on the counter, and that's a huge risk, also his marking, especially in the box is tragic.

I agree!! His lack of pace makes him vunerable on counters, but in his defense he does compensate by taking good positions. And I wonder if his marking problem has to do with lack of aggression?? But besides that he has stepped up big time, I can't ask anything more from him to be honest.

[Clevemayer 764]

nobody denies he has flaws, as has any other player on this planet, despite maybe Essien when he was on his prime ( ), and that really stupid comments on him not scoreing are a joke, Makalele made two goals all his time with us, and I think it was pretty the same number with real, so what point in slamming Mikel for not scoreing goals?

Hes not Makalele and he will never be, his technique is far more superior to Makalele, but then Makelele was the most simple genius footballwise, his passes where always spot on, you will rarely see him missplaceing a pass but hi didnt have the technique and the compousure as Mikel has, so there is no point in compareing them both this is unfair to the tremendous talent they both hava and had...

and compareing Mikel to Tiote is nonsense, they're play is based on complete different styles, I have that feeling its gonna be like Drogs, whenever somebody came in, evereyone thought Drogba is done and dusted (Sheva, Anelka, Torres), I always kept beliving in that big man and I was right, the same thing is with Mikel (Diarra (both talents at that time), Romeu, Ramires and even Mineiro to an extend, as Matic and so on). If you have an very open Style of play and a slow backfour you will need someone like Tiote running around in the Midfield and try'n to be everywhere where the ball is, but if you try to implement an mixture of an tactical and nice possesion keeping style of play, then that combination of Rambo and Mikel is pretty much the best thing you can get int that extend what they both can do, a Combination of Mikel and Tiote would came close to that, so in that manner you can compareRamy and Tiote more then him and Mikel...

Mikel and Romeu is a bad combination imho, because both are more based on that calmness and tactical awareness plus romeu is sometimes a bit hasty...

[Kojo 4,676]

nobody denies he has flaws, as has any other player on this planet, despite maybe Essien when he was on his prime ( ), and that really stupid comments on him not scoreing are a joke, Makalele made two goals all his time with us, and I think it was pretty the same number with real, so what point in slamming Mikel for not scoreing goals?

Hes not Makalele and he will never be, his technique is far more superior to Makalele, but then Makelele was the most simple genius footballwise, his passes where always spot on, you will rarely see him missplaceing a pass but hi didnt have the technique and the compousure as Mikel has, so there is no point in compareing them both this is unfair to the tremendous talent they both hava and had...

and compareing Mikel to Tiote is nonsense, they're play is based on complete different styles, I have that feeling its gonna be like Drogs, whenever somebody came in, evereyone thought Drogba is done and dusted (Sheva, Anelka, Torres), I always kept beliving in that big man and I was right, the same thing is with Mikel (Diarra (both talents at that time), Romeu, Ramires and even Mineiro to an extend, as Matic and so on). If you have an very open Style of play and a slow backfour you will need someone like Tiote running around in the Midfield and try'n to be everywhere where the ball is, but if you try to implement an mixture of an tactical and nice possesion keeping style of play, then that combination of Rambo and Mikel is pretty much the best thing you can get int that extend what they both can do, a Combination of Mikel and Tiote would came close to that, so in that manner you can compareRamy and Tiote more then him and Mikel...

Mikel and Romeu is a bad combination imho, because both are more based on that calmness and tactical awareness plus romeu is sometimes a bit hasty...

nobody denies he has flaws, as has any other player on this planet, despite maybe Essien when he was on his prime ( ), and that really stupid comments on him not scoreing are a joke, Makalele made two goals all his time with us, and I think it was pretty the same number with real, so what point in slamming Mikel for not scoreing goals?

Hes not Makalele and he will never be, his technique is far more superior to Makalele, but then Makelele was the most simple genius footballwise, his passes where always spot on, you will rarely see him missplaceing a pass but hi didnt have the technique and the compousure as Mikel has, so there is no point in compareing them both this is unfair to the tremendous talent they both hava and had...

and compareing Mikel to Tiote is nonsense, they're play is based on complete different styles, I have that feeling its gonna be like Drogs, whenever somebody came in, evereyone thought Drogba is done and dusted (Sheva, Anelka, Torres), I always kept beliving in that big man and I was right, the same thing is with Mikel (Diarra (both talents at that time), Romeu, Ramires and even Mineiro to an extend, as Matic and so on). If you have an very open Style of play and a slow backfour you will need someone like Tiote running around in the Midfield and try'n to be everywhere where the ball is, but if you try to implement an mixture of an tactical and nice possesion keeping style of play, then that combination of Rambo and Mikel is pretty much the best thing you can get int that extend what they both can do, a Combination of Mikel and Tiote would came close to that, so in that manner you can compareRamy and Tiote more then him and Mikel...

Mikel and Romeu is a bad combination imho, because both are more based on that calmness and tactical awareness plus romeu is sometimes a bit hasty...

nobody denies he has flaws, as has any other player on this planet, despite maybe Essien when he was on his prime ( ), and that really stupid comments on him not scoreing are a joke, Makalele made two goals all his time with us, and I think it was pretty the same number with real, so what point in slamming Mikel for not scoreing goals?

Hes not Makalele and he will never be, his technique is far more superior to Makalele, but then Makelele was the most simple genius footballwise, his passes where always spot on, you will rarely see him missplaceing a pass but hi didnt have the technique and the compousure as Mikel has, so there is no point in compareing them both this is unfair to the tremendous talent they both hava and had...

and compareing Mikel to Tiote is nonsense, they're play is based on complete different styles, I have that feeling its gonna be like Drogs, whenever somebody came in, evereyone thought Drogba is done and dusted (Sheva, Anelka, Torres), I always kept beliving in that big man and I was right, the same thing is with Mikel (Diarra (both talents at that time), Romeu, Ramires and even Mineiro to an extend, as Matic and so on). If you have an very open Style of play and a slow backfour you will need someone like Tiote running around in the Midfield and try'n to be everywhere where the ball is, but if you try to implement an mixture of an tactical and nice possesion keeping style of play, then that combination of Rambo and Mikel is pretty much the best thing you can get int that extend what they both can do, a Combination of Mikel and Tiote would came close to that, so in that manner you can compareRamy and Tiote more then him and Mikel...

Mikel and Romeu is a bad combination imho, because both are more based on that calmness and tactical awareness plus romeu is sometimes a bit hasty...

Haven't seen one decent post from you yet, don't get me wrong i disagree with most people on here against me about Mikel, but at least they put up a decent arguement.

Straight away you've gone into me going on about his goals, when all i stated was he even lacks in terms of attacking, so there's not even a good side to him there. So straight away you've made yourself look like a tool.

I also can't remember putting Mikel with Tiote?. I would take Mikel out of it as he just isn't good enough at all. Then get a different type of player, Ramires is a good ball winner and has the pace we need, but Tiote could do a better job as could Sandro or Lucas for liverpool (don't know about now due to his injuries). Obviously you need a different player next to that person, i would prefer someone who stays deep with the ball and covers, but also has a very good passing range. But that's very hard to come by now days, most creative players are attackers, like Eriksen and such.