BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Mikel is far more superior defensively when compared to the DM's in the premier league.Going forward isn't his greatest strength but he does a decent job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Instead of what? Letting him go on a free? I wouldn't read anything into that except us having businessmen on the board.5 and a half years though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 5 and a half years though. He'll have transfer value for that period.Plus Chalobah will need a break every now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 IMO Mikel, as all of our midfielders is simply not made for a double pivot. He is perfect for the holding role in a 4-3-3, which worked so well under Ancelotti. Though his lack of shooting and running ability leaves to much up to his pivot partner. He is exactly the same type of player as busquets (bar being a diving, skinny cuntface). Also busquets would be swamped by playing in a double pivot with s.o. like Ramires or Lampard next to him. Mikel's development really has stalled for years and he is to blame that he could not add some dimensions to his play when he was younger, but now we have to deal with that and Mikel is our best holding midfielder. Now we can either play fuckin 4-3-3 again, where all of our midfielders are played to their strengths or we can play a 4-2-3-1 where we will have problems with our double pivot we buy two players who actually ARE suited to form one. Besides our striker,owner and manager, the tactical deficiencies and mistakes that come along always playing at least one centre midfielder out of position in a system he is not suited to have hurt us the most this season.People are always demanding the signings of Capoue/Benat/Cabaye, players who are acutally made for the pivot, but lets look at it differently, wouldn't it be easier to sign one out and out winger and play a---------Mikel--------Rami-----Lamps/Oscarmidfield and play Hazard or Moses as false 9? We played most of the season under RDM, all games in the EL and also against ManU where demba ba could not hold up a single ball without a striker, so why not continue with it? Hazard, Lamps and Mata are responsible for the goals, also Ramires is a decent finisher. Think about it, in the games we played really well, 2nd half against Utd....err....2nd half against Brentford home.....1st half against Arsenal and unde RDM also against Utd 2nd half, tottenham away, did we really need a striker in these? Neither was there a striker goal nor more than 1 striker assist. You can say, they make runs, but I bet moses and Hazard can make these runs at least as good. I mean, it is not a neccessity to appraoch any game this way, but our striker is in any case our weakest link in the offense and apart from the fact that is impossible to be worse than Torres, it would be great to have a plan B Clevemayer and Mundaka 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 He's not as bad as I and other certain members often make him out to be, but if he was as good as others claim he is there wouldn't be a total jizz-fest every time he has an above average game IMO. He's a solid player, but I don't dig this notion that he's "one of the most underrated players in Europe", because he's really not. In a 4-3-3 system I believe he's one of the best holding midfielders in Europe, yes. In a 4-2-3-1 however I believe he's average, with an occasional stand-out appearance like this one vs. United. bluesman2610 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Maybe nobody wants to pay Chelsea's asking price for Mikel?He'll never be world-class but he's a useful player.Not to mention Salomon Kalou got a shit load of game time and was here for ages. Backstreet09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaka 243 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 ---------Mikel--------Rami-----Lamps/Oscarmidfield and play Hazard or Moses as false 9? We played most of the season under RDM, all games in the EL and also against ManU where demba ba could not hold up a single ball without a striker, so why not continue with it? Hazard, Lamps and Mata are responsible for the goals, also Ramires is a decent finisher. Think about it, in the games we played really well, 2nd half against Utd....err....2nd half against Brentford home.....1st half against Arsenal and unde RDM also against Utd 2nd half, tottenham away, did we really need a striker in these? Neither was there a striker goal nor more than 1 striker assist. You can say, they make runs, but I bet moses and Hazard can make these runs at least as good. I mean, it is not a neccessity to appraoch any game this way, but our striker is in any case our weakest link in the offense and apart from the fact that is impossible to be worse than Torres, it would be great to have a plan BI think Hazard/Moses as a false 9 doesnt suit the PL and would get destroyed by the likes of stoke, in spain yeh would be great i think but here in the PL ... also a reason messi never scores against italian/english oposition (away). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8557093/John-Obi-Mikel-Taunting-of-Rafa-Benitez-by-Chelsea-fans-is-affecting-players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yesterday was the worst performance I've seen by him in a very long time. He could have cost us qualification if it weren't for some superb saves from Cech. Get your act together, John! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 random nachikethas, mnmontero and NiclasCFC 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Probably he needs a proper hard working CM with enough energy to run.But you guys know that board and players know best how important he is to them. I dont say Mikel is superb, but he is certainly better than Capoue, Gonalons, Tiote etc...he is proven, aged 25 and with his style (he is not using pace) he can easy play on top level until 35. The only thing I blame him is his working ethic, he takes games too easy and loses passion. As for mistake goes, everyone makes mistakes; Luiz, Hazard, Mata, Rambo, Ramos, Pique,...but that doesnt mean like they need to leave. Once a proper manager will Motivate Mikel (he plays great for Nigeria), we will see his best side.But ok sell him to United if you think he is that bad and then you will cry after him... CHOULO19 and Joker10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Probably he needs a proper hard working CM with enough energy to run.But you guys know that board and players know best how important he is to them. I dont say Mikel is superb, but he is certainly better than Capoue, Gonalons, Tiote etc...he is proven, aged 25 and with his style (he is not using pace) he can easy play on top level until 35. The only thing I blame him is his working ethic, he takes games too easy and loses passion. As for mistake goes, everyone makes mistakes; Luiz, Hazard, Mata, Rambo, Ramos, Pique,...but that doesnt mean like they need to leave. Once a proper manager will Motivate Mikel (he plays great for Nigeria), we will see his best side.But ok sell him to United if you think he is that bad and then you will cry after him...Not so sure he will carry on that long. The fact that he started to play in a European top league so early will probably cut his career. Physically, due to his rather leisure playing style, he won't have a problem, but mentally it will be difficult for him to motivate himself in 10 years. But I agree Mikel has been a great servant for the club, he should and will stay here for years. Mikel was amazing under Ancelotti in that Mikel-Deco/Ballack-Lamps midfield. Given the right partners he will excel again. Rambo and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 randomWow never thought John, Brana and Ashley would come along so good, Great to see such friendship in the squad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FullEnglishBreakfast Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I've been really busy as of late. What's Mikel's form been like? I don't want biased opinions either, though I don't think that's possible with this fellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Probably he needs a proper hard working CM with enough energy to run.But you guys know that board and players know best how important he is to them. I dont say Mikel is superb, but he is certainly better than Capoue, Gonalons, Tiote etc...he is proven, aged 25 and with his style (he is not using pace) he can easy play on top level until 35. The only thing I blame him is his working ethic, he takes games too easy and loses passion. As for mistake goes, everyone makes mistakes; Luiz, Hazard, Mata, Rambo, Ramos, Pique,...but that doesnt mean like they need to leave. Once a proper manager will Motivate Mikel (he plays great for Nigeria), we will see his best side.But ok sell him to United if you think he is that bad and then you will cry after him...Wasn't Mikel supposed to sign for United all those years ago..?He's probably happy that he ended up at Chelsea...cause at United, he'd either be a top player or sold-off to some decent club by now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I've been really busy as of late. What's Mikel's form been like? I don't want biased opinions either, though I don't think that's possible with this fellow.Good against United (although had no pressure put on him), was responsible for at least one golden opportunity for Steaua from (guess what) dawdling on the ball and getting caught out, not missed against West Ham (who had no midfield to speak of).It's funny that one of the things he does is get caught by surprise by players putting pressure on him. I guarantee it will happen in the next 12-18 months and this time someone's going to knick his shirt off him.His name? Chalobah. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Yesterday was the worst performance I've seen by him in a very long time. He could have cost us qualification if it weren't for some superb saves from Cech. Get your act together, John! Don't think he heard you. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaan 263 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 The last 9 games that John Obi Mikel started in the Premier League, Chelsea have won 1, drawn 3 and lost 5. A grand total of 6 points in those 9 games. #CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Holy balls, was he terrible today. Not suited to a two man midfield. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I expect we won't see the Mikel lovers until his next 'amazing performace' sometime next year.... English Freak, Kojo, Shaan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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