🇲🇦 Hakim Ziyech

[NikkiCFC 8,332]

Such a bummer this injury. Clearly in best form of all attackers. Werner and Puli are horrid. Mount just played first minutes and even Kai has games off...

 

Edited August 11, 2021 by NikkiCFC

[manpe 10,861]

What happened to him? He just jumped without much contact and next I know he's on the ground... Is he really that fragile 🤔

[Styl1994 188]

Guy has no luck ffs hopefully his only out for a month 

[nyikolajevics 2,700]

Any news on his injury?

[Miguelito 459]

On 05/08/2021 at 06:09, Hamilton said:

Haven’t seen the games but looks like he’s having a decent pre-season so far. 

Tuchel said he doesn't need surgery, and hopes he will only be out 2 weeks. Good news considering the pain he was in.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

 

[NikkiCFC 8,332]

After this he may not even go to AFCON...

Morocco coach:
 

“His behaviour in the last two matches, especially the last one, was not that of a national team player who as a leader in the team has to be positive role model. He arrived late and after that he even refused to work. There was no point in discussing it afterwards, as a coach the answer is right there to see. For me, the national team is above everything, nobody can hold it hostage.”

 

“For the first time in my coaching career, I have seen behaviour that disappoints me. A player who refuses to play a game, admittedly a friendly, on the pretext that he is injured. The medical staff made several examinations and said he could play. He then refused to warm up in the second half because he was disappointed to be a substitute.

“For me, that type of behaviour is unacceptable. You can’t cheat with the national team. You are 100% there or you are not.”

-Vahid Halihodžić; source: The New Arab

 

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by NikkiCFC

[Mário César 1,280]

Nice.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Absolute Jackpot. Let’s hope he never plays for the NT again. Nothing better than having international level players who don’t actually play for a NT. the entertainment of the fall out is an added bonus. After all the bad luck we had with players out in int. duty we finally struck Gold here. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

He needs to improve his game if he wants to play for us.

That's the difference between pre-season and real competitive games right there.

Piss poor in the PL so far... maybe PL is a bit too quick and powerful for him?

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

His lack of hustle tonight was concerning.

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

Think many need to come to terms he is simply a luxury player only. 

[LAM09 7,061]

44 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Think many need to come to terms he is simply a luxury player only. 

His preseason form & Super Cup outing gave some of us hope that that was a sign of things to come. So far, it hasn't been. 

[Jase 43,479]

🤣

[LAM09 7,061]

People are probably realising why he remained in Holland for so long.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

5 hours ago, LAM09 said:

People are probably realising why he remained in Holland for so long.

It was obvious that there must be a reason why he was where he was at that stage of his career. Some of us made this point while his transfer was being discussed.

There are some truths that those responsible for Chelsea's player recruitment must learn if they don't already know them and which they must not ignore if they do: -

     Never buy on form.

     If a player's touch is poor when he's 18 it will be poor when he's 28. Ignore anyone who tells you otherwise. They are either not old enough or not observant enough to know better.

     If an outfield player in the prime of his career is playing at a lower level than it looks like he should be aware that there is a reason why he's where he is. A good reason.

    Chelsea should never pay elite level transfer fees because established elite players never choose Chelsea. We have no choice but to try to find the elite players before they have established themselves.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

It was obvious that there must be a reason why he was where he was at that stage of his career. Some of us made this point while his transfer was being discussed.

There are some truths that those responsible for Chelsea's player recruitment must learn if they don't already know them and which they must not ignore if they do: -

     Never buy on form.

     If a player's touch is poor when he's 18 it will be poor when he's 28. Ignore anyone who tells you otherwise. They are either not old enough or not observant enough to know better.

     If an outfield player in the prime of his career is playing at a lower level than it looks like he should be aware that there is a reason why he's where he is. A good reason.

    Chelsea should never pay elite level transfer fees because established elite players never choose Chelsea. We have no choice but to try to find the elite players before they have established themselves.

Pretty sure guys like Kante, Drogba, Vardy, Maguire, Lampard, Kane, Kolo Toure and other late bloomers/players who developed well despite having glaring weaknesses/not being at the top level have disproved this “if their touch is shite at 18 then its gonna be shite at 28” thing ten times over. Which basically is like saying if your a shit footballer at 18 your likely to be a shit footballer at 28. Which we know isn’t true. Its not as black and white as that, never has been, never will be. 

Granted Ziyech hasn’t done enough and looks out of his depth after a brief spell in pre season and in the SC but to use his example as why to never buy players is mind boggling. I mean if your going to tell me you seen Ziyech play at 18 as well I have to say that’s impressive but I doubt it…  

Also never buy on form? Why do you think players get moves more than 50% of the time? From playing badly? No, from having had an amazing run of form/season.

I see the point your trying to make but not everyone falls into the same basket, its different on a case by case basis. 

Edited October 1, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[manpe 10,861]

Bust. Looks uninterested, too lightweight and easily bullied. Needs acres of space to pick a pass, but can't beat a man to create that space.

Sell and buy a proper winger.

[Tomo 21,751]

6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Pretty sure guys like Kante, Drogba, Vardy, Maguire, Lampard, Kane, Kolo Toure and other late bloomers/players who developed well despite having glaring weaknesses/not being at the top level have disproved this “if their touch is shite at 18 then its gonna be shite at 28” thing ten times over. Which basically is like saying if your a shit footballer at 18 your likely to be a shit footballer at 28. Which we know isn’t true. Its not as black and white as that, never has been, never will be. 

Granted Ziyech hasn’t done enough and looks out of his depth after a brief spell in pre season and in the SC but to use his example as why to never buy players is mind boggling. I mean if your going to tell me you seen Ziyech play at 18 as well I have to say that’s impressive but I doubt it…  

Also never buy on form? Why do you think players get moves more than 50% of the time? From playing badly? No, from having had an amazing run of form/season.

I see the point your trying to make but not everyone falls into the same basket, its different on a case by case basis. 

That's not true, many players who are shit in the present time but their natural talent is still acknowledged (case in point Hudson Odoi).

Players skillset is defined very early (for example had Josh McEachran made it was obvious it would have been in the Pirlo/Cesc mould instead of the Vieira/Essien one) the only question mark is what level they get up to with said skillset.

To conclude with another example, if someone comes at you with a crystal ball today and says in a few years from now either Christensen or Zouma mature into a Thiago Silva esque defender while the other evolves into a Vidic lite one, I don't think anyone on the planet will be under any illusions as to which will be which.

[LAM09 7,061]

13 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

It was obvious that there must be a reason why he was where he was at that stage of his career. Some of us made this point while his transfer was being discussed.

There are some truths that those responsible for Chelsea's player recruitment must learn if they don't already know them and which they must not ignore if they do: -

     Never buy on form.

     If a player's touch is poor when he's 18 it will be poor when he's 28. Ignore anyone who tells you otherwise. They are either not old enough or not observant enough to know better.

     If an outfield player in the prime of his career is playing at a lower level than it looks like he should be aware that there is a reason why he's where he is. A good reason.

    Chelsea should never pay elite level transfer fees because established elite players never choose Chelsea. We have no choice but to try to find the elite players before they have established themselves.

All of your points ring true to an extent. Players can be on a hot streak and continue that trajectory (Kante being one), but it's more often than that it ends, and you truly see where the player is at.

The last point is something far too many fall foul of when silly season comes around and think we ought to be in the mix for said player. As you stated, we need to find the next big thing before they become superstars. Shame we didn't see it through with De Bruyne & Salah, to name just two.