Super Frank Thread

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, Mana said:

This squad will probably won't get that run again. They are too tired and inexperienced.

I know I can be pessimistic at times but your constant pessimism is something else.

Also, this talk of the squad being inexperienced has seriously been blown out of proportion this season. There are young players in the squad but there are more senior players in it than the young ones. Only Abraham, Mount, Hudson-Odoi, Tomori and Pulisic can be considered inexperienced in the Premier League (otherwise, it's only 4 players if you consider Pulisic's top flight football experience). The rest are old enough and have played long enough in this league to know better. 

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

My tune was always 'This is a transitional season' and I am going to stick by it. 

I agree to Frank Lampard - the players up front are not clinical enough. 

The reason why Liverpool is so good it is because their front three (Mane, Salah, Firmino) are a constant threat and always looks to find ways to shoot/score and on top of that two out of their three midfielders always find themselves in scoring positions, too. 

Lampard is right - to me it looks there is nobody up front, nor in midfield, that has that clinical finish. And honestly this 'Kante playing advanced' BS must stop soon, he is simply a DM, maybe the best in his position and must switch positions with Jorginho. 

This is simply an inefective midfield that would work if those up front would be top class. But since they are not, what is the point of having both a non scoring midfield and attack? Does not make sense to me. 

To me it is very simple - it should be Kante the DM plus another two midfielders that would pose a threat by shooting/being a constant danger in the final third. Plus the ones up front must be more clinical, shoot more, not just pass it sideways and spray tons of crosses into the box when Abraham does not even attack the first post. I mean I like Tammy but it is the basis of a striker to attack the first post when a cross comes in, but 9 times out of 10 he's just on the other side of the penalty area. 

[Tomo 21,751]

3 hours ago, Mana said:

You cannot blame me with these constant poor results and performances. 

I think Jason is more referring to the fact that you spin a negative on almost anything. How many times after a victory is your thought is to hypothetically change the match scenario's so it makes us lose (ala the game at The Emirates)?

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

On 18/01/2020 at 7:28 PM, Mana said:

If we don’t get anybody this window, I want Lampard sacked. Fed up. Pissed off. I’ve been saying it. This squad ain’t good enough for top 4. This manager is also making mistakes.

Hold on, you want him sacked because of the dregs that have been dumped on him, I think he's he's doing terrific considering.

No the squad aint good enough I agree but that is hardly his fault.

You're too impatient we've got to give him 3 years then if thing's haven't improved, player and and result wise then yes consider if he needs to go.

 

[Tomo 21,751]

18 minutes ago, Mana said:

We got the victory and it was 3 points, but it was overall a terrible performance. It was like back to the Mourinho days. For the large majority of the match I was pissed off at the team, so how is that a spin?

Your narrative was "if Leno didn't make the mistake", conviently you didn't factor if, buts and maybe's in when we lost points due to a mistake the other night.

And it wasn't "like the Mourinho days", soon as we made that change we were the only team in it, if that happened in reverse you'd be banging on about how amazing Arsenal were and how superior they are.

[Tomo 21,751]

2 minutes ago, Mana said:

I didn’t say Arsenal were “amazing”, I said they were more compact and made it super hard for us to break them down. I’ll bet all my money that if Leno didn’t make that mistake (and there weren’t any further Arsenal mistakes) we would have lost.

Maybe, but the point is if Kante didn't slip we would have very likely cruised to the most comfortable win of the season.

I'm not using it as an excuse myself, just saying if you want to play what ifs then it's only fair it works both ways, no?

[Atomiswave 6,117]

I want him to stay and do super well but in the end his still a rookie and have so so much to learn. Maybe it comes with time and money well spent.

But its worrying what we are seeing.....forget plan B, what is plan A? What is the system and structor? Cuz I see none of that. We still do not have a first 11, every player gets chopped and changed so often.

Same bloody mistakes all season with no remedy....basics all out the window. Yes we have suffered with injuries, we have average players or spent ones but that does not excuse not having a system.

This will be so tough on FL and I feel for him.

[Nicco 927]

Sack Lampard and get a real manager like Pochettino before it's to late.

[Tomo 21,751]

7 minutes ago, Nicco said:

Sack Lampard and get a real manager like Pochettino before it's to late.

Who you would demand is sacked within months .

[Nicco 927]

Just now, Tomo said:

Who you would demand is sacked within months .

Let's not pretend I wanted Sarri or Conte sacked, only this clueless rookie, has no business managing a top side, at least not yet.

[killer1257 3,282]

Let's not pretend I wanted Sarri or Conte sacked, only this clueless rookie, has no business managing a top side, at least not yet.

I highly doubt that Guardiola would do any better than our "clueless rookie".

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[Nicco 927]

6 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

I highly doubt that Guardiola would do any better than our "clueless rookie".

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Says who? Pretty sure Guardiola would've killed the game 2 days ago if he went up a man, this crap needs to stop. Frank Lampard singlehandely transformed our average, bad defense to a none existing one in the span of a few months, that alone is a sackable offense, I don't give a fuck about his excuses and his zonal defense crap if it doesn't work change it but this guy makes the same stupid mistakes. He talks about Emerson leaving his post in that counter attack like it's normal to have all players in the opposite field with a narrow 1-0 lead.

[killer1257 3,282]

Says who? Pretty sure Guardiola would've killed the game 2 days ago if he went up a man, this crap needs to stop. Frank Lampard singlehandely transformed our average, bad defense to a none existing one in the span of a few months, that alone is a sackable offense, I don't give a fuck about his excuses and his zonal defense crap if it doesn't work change it but this guy makes the same stupid mistakes. He talks about Emerson leaving his post in that counter attack like it's normal to have all players in the opposite field with a narrow 1-0 lead.

Guardiola would have never killed the game with players like Willian in the team.
Man City have conceded only 5 goals less than us and they have a way better goalkeeper. Guardiola also uses zonal defense. You just don't like Lamps

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[Tomo 21,751]

6 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Guardiola would have never killed the game with players like Willian in the team.

Man City have conceded only 5 goals less than us and they have a way better goalkeeper. Guardiola also uses zonal defense. You just don't like Lamps

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In fairness that's a good point made, you would never see Pep draw 2-2 after leading with an extra man.

[killer1257 3,282]

Says who? Pretty sure Guardiola would've killed the game 2 days ago if he went up a man, this crap needs to stop. Frank Lampard singlehandely transformed our average, bad defense to a none existing one in the span of a few months, that alone is a sackable offense, I don't give a fuck about his excuses and his zonal defense crap if it doesn't work change it but this guy makes the same stupid mistakes. He talks about Emerson leaving his post in that counter attack like it's normal to have all players in the opposite field with a narrow 1-0 lead.

Remember 2:2 Chelsea vs Barcelona when clueless Guardiola drew a 10 men Chelsea?

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