xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Can't blame him, he's 3rd choice for a reason.Hr is ten times more useful than Torres as a squad player, but hopefully his game time is reduced from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Can't blame him, he's 3rd choice for a reason.Hr is ten times more useful than Torres as a squad player, but hopefully his game time is reduced from now on.Debatable, maybe Torres would have at least got an assist today. Lets wait a few weeks when we actually need our subs to change the game, lets see if he is up to it then. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidur the Spider 4,515 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 3rd choice striker, shouldn't be starting games. Starting him in these sorts of games will ruin his legacy quicker than anything, you need to be smart and use him at the right times. Sadly he isn't the player he was but we all knew that and so did Jose, surely. Head scratching all round that he started and even more for not coming off sooner. Mourinho needs to be ruthless as he has been in the past, when a player is playing that badly, regardless of their club status, they have to come off. Sidzeret and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Debatable, maybe Torres would have at least got an assist today. Lets wait a few weeks when we actually need our subs to change the game, lets see if he is up to it then.Drogba is useful in the air and is good in the dressing room, that alone puts him better than Torres is who quite frankly is shite on every level imaginable Chelsea Legend 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Drogba is useful in the air and is good in the dressing room, that alone puts him better than Torres is who quite frankly is shite on every level imaginableAt least he works hard though, Drogba seems like he can't even press anymore. Basically now his job is nothing but to score goals, if he can't do that aka Torres he at least need to compensate in other ways, but he cannot do anything else apart from heading away corners. Viper22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Mourinho's just said this - "He had a positive game. I'm happy with what he did"Hahaha gotta love that, clearly taking the piss. The Skipper and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 No one had that big a problem with him returning because people just assumed he'd be 3rd choice and only get late sub appearances when we need to pump the ball in the box. But if he's going to be starting games then something is wrong. Shouldn't happen again hopefully. zolayes and Eidur the Spider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
different level 1,056 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Nah, he is waaay past it. Hopefully we wouldn't have to see him starting any other CL or EPL games. MrBlueGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Mourinho's just said this - "He had a positive game. I'm happy with what he did" Hahaha gotta love that, clearly taking the piss.not admitting HE Jose FUCKED UP BIG TIME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 No one had that big a problem with him returning because people just assumed he'd be 3rd choice and only get late sub appearances when we need to pump the ball in the box. But if he's going to be starting games then something is wrong.Shouldn't happen again hopefully.Perhaps it was just too soon for Remy (who hasn't really played much) to start a game and is being eased into his role as #2. Drogba had a full pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 3rd choice striker, shouldn't be starting games. Starting him in these sorts of games will ruin his legacy quicker than anything, you need to be smart and use him at the right times. Sadly he isn't the player he was but we all knew that and so did Jose, surely. Head scratching all round that he started and even more for not coming off sooner. Mourinho needs to be ruthless as he has been in the past, when a player is playing that badly, regardless of their club status, they have to come off. Agreed. Remy should have been starting today. Drogba doesn't look anywhere near match fit at the moment. There is a time and a place to play your third-choice striker. For instance in a home tie against a Championship side in the League Cup, have we got any games like those coming up soon? The Chels and Eidur the Spider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 At least he works hard though, Drogba seems like he can't even press anymore. Basically now his job is nothing but to score goals, if he can't do that aka Torres he at least need to compensate in other ways, but he cannot do anything else apart from heading away corners.I don't want to get in a Torres debate again but he barely worked hard for us, his attitude most of the time was an absolute disgrace. This Torres worked hard myth is the biggest fantasy/excuse ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 17, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted September 17, 2014 not admitting HE Jose FUCKED UP BIG TIMEBecause José played such a big role in all those missed chances... absolutely nothing to do with him.The team he put out today had the ability to beat Schalke 6-0, but instead the team were complacent and missed some glorious chances to kill the game off before we'd even played for an hour. iseah100, Blue Traveler, Fulham Broadway and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Thought he did a decent job myself, probably more than any of last season's would have offered. It was tough asking him to start up there on his own with lack of match fitness etc. and completely new style to adapt to.Would personally have either started him alongside Remy or brought him on with 20/25 mins to go Chelsea Legend 11 and BlueLion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Because José played such a big role in all those missed chances... absolutely nothing to do with him. The team he put out today had the ability to beat Schalke 6-0, but instead the team were complacent and missed some glorious chances to kill the game off before we'd even played for an hour.if ANYONE else had played like Drog they wouldn't have got 70 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Plenty of life left in the old Drog yet, hes only played 70 mins ffs! Chelsea Legend 11, BlueLion. and Blue Traveler 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted September 17, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted September 17, 2014 Was awful. Normally, I think small sample sizes are absurd to look at it, but in this case, there is reason for concern. If a player looks out of rhythm or mistiming things, that is very often down to just lack of gameplay, but Drogba this is pretty much how he can be expected to play. He is 36 YO and has not been a top striker in about 5 years. He was declining quickly even with Chelsea, becoming effective in only a handful of games in his last couple of years with us. Look at it this way, had Drogba stayed after the CL win what would have happened? Almost certainly one more year of continued decline before Chelsea not offering him another contract and him going on his way. Because he left Chelsea, people didn't see that decline, but it was there. We have a much worse player than the one who was mediocre for us 3 years ago. (16 goals in 60 league games the last 2 years at Chelsea).I've been thinking a lot about Drogba. Drogba has been a great servant to Chelsea, seems like a genuinely good human being, was a real pleasure to watch, and was key to a lot we did , but his legacy is going to get seriously re-examined the further we get away from the emotions of winning the CL. He was a very good player playing mostly on great teams but not really close to being one of the best Premier-League strikers or the best Chelsea player ever. This is a player who scored over 16 goals in a season only twice with Chelsea and only more than 12 in the league twice. These are not particularly high benchmarks and are fairly low benchmarks on what was a high scoring team.. Wayne Rooney has done 16+ goals 10 straight years. Henry had 7 straight seasons of at least 22 goals. Van Persie has done 16 5 out of the last 6 years. Hassailbank did it 8 times. The Chels, Term-X, OneMoSalah and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted September 18, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted September 18, 2014 Was awful. Normally, I think small sample sizes are absurd to look at it, but in this case, there is reason for concern. If a player looks out of rhythm or mistiming things, that is very often down to just lack of gameplay, but Drogba this is pretty much how he can be expected to play. He is 36 YO and has not been a top striker in about 5 years. He was declining quickly even with Chelsea, becoming effective in only a handful of games in his last couple of years with us. Look at it this way, had Drogba stayed after the CL win what would have happened? Almost certainly one more year of continued decline before Chelsea not offering him another contract and him going on his way. Because he left Chelsea, people didn't see that decline, but it was there. We have a much worse player than the one who was mediocre for us 3 years ago. (16 goals in 60 league games the last 2 years at Chelsea).I've been thinking a lot about Drogba. Drogba has been a great servant to Chelsea, seems like a genuinely good human being, was a real pleasure to watch, and was key to a lot we did , but his legacy is going to get seriously re-examined the further we get away from the emotions of winning the CL. He was a very good player playing mostly on great teams but not really close to being one of the best Premier-League strikers or the best Chelsea player ever. This is a player who scored over 16 goals in a season only twice with Chelsea and only more than 12 in the league twice. These are not particularly high benchmarks and are fairly low benchmarks on what was a high scoring team.. Wayne Rooney has done 16+ goals 10 straight years. Henry had 7 straight seasons of at least 22 goals. Van Persie has done 16 5 out of the last 6 years. Hassailbank did it 8 times. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. While it's true Drogba was not the most prolific striker in the history of the PL, he was arguably the most influential to his team, alongside Henry. When he wasn't scoring goals, he was a nightmare for defenders to defend against, occupying entire back four's with his incredible hold up play and physical, direct style. He was much more than just goals and a pound for pound superior player to what van Persie and Rooney ever where. He was also not our regular penalty taker like those other players you mentioned (except Jimmy). And he also had seasons were he fell out with some managers/managers fell out with him which affected his scoring numbers. Also, when was Chelsea ever a high scoring team when Drogba was in his prime here? Apart from the season under Ancelotti, we were one of the lowest scorers among the "big 4" clubs. To say Drogba was not a PL great and was "not close to being our greatest ever player" shows how completely clueless you are about: (1) Drogba's contribution to Chelsea.(2) The history of Chelsea FC.The fact that that is a "popular" post worries me. Seriously, have a word with yourself son. Madmax, Blue Traveler, Bir_CFC and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted September 18, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted September 18, 2014 I realize it was a dogshit performance but I didn't expect Chelsea fans to start marginalizing Drogba's status as a one of the great PL forwards. You'd think Chelsea fans of all people wouldn't forget Drogba that quickly. Blue Traveler, kellzfresh, Manuf and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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