The Sarri Thread

[manpe 10,861]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

Until I see us buying Icardi or Dybala the board can fuck off

Heh I managed to edit my post before you replied. Added the bit about Sarri needing backing and yada yada, same old song. However Icardi or Dybala are never happening so you can fuck them off this instant  

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, manpe said:

You were fooling yourself if you thought it was going to be smooth sailing. We fire Sarri and hire another Mourinho, how would that help us? It's evident that this archaic defensive approach is not the way forward, football is evolving and we've been left behind exactly because we have refused to go with the times. Do you want to stay in one place and stagnate forever? Patience...

We really need a Director of Football to help provide a clear direction of our playing squad. Emenalo was definitely onto something around 2012/2013 when we bought the small, technical players to play attacking football but we then just had to go bring back Mourinho and see him crush the plan in 1-2 years. 

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To put the season into perspective,we are just 2 points short of the tally we had with Mourinho at the same stage of 2013/2014 season.

Sarri needs another summer and the full backing of the board.We are still in top 4 while undergoing the biggest philosophy transition a football club can experience.Guardiola barely managed to get a CL spot in his first season and he inherited a squad that was much closer to his ideas.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

7 minutes ago, manpe said:

You were fooling yourself if you thought it was going to be smooth sailing. We fire Sarri and hire another Mourinho, how would that help us? It's evident that this archaic defensive approach is not the way forward, football is evolving and we've been left behind exactly because we have refused to go with the times. Do you want to stay in one place and stagnate forever? Patience... But of course he needs the backing from the club, to get rid of the shit Mou/Conte era players and introduce more technical modern footballers.

I replied to you in another thread on this. 

But yeah completely agree it will not be a quick process. However we did play much better two months ago, the way we should be playing. 

Dont even mind we won 12 straight or so. Point is our football was actualy very enjoyable to watch. Now its pure boredom even if we manage to win 1:0 or 2:1.

What happend? We didnt have injuries. It couldnt be fatigue because it started in october.

Hazard was absolutely on fire prior and he isnt that great since october. Jorginho was also much more influental first months compared to now.

[Jase 43,479]

Mourinho and Conte didn't get full backing from the board and people think Sarri will?  

[manpe 10,861]

Just now, Jason said:

We really need a Director of Football to help provide a clear direction of our playing squad. Emenalo was definitely onto something around 2012/2013 when we bought the small, technical players to play attacking football but we then just had to go bring back Mourinho and see him crush the plan in 1-2 years. 

Yup, I would take Emenalo back. Don't think anymore he was THE problem, by the sounds of it he actually seemed to side with the managers more often than not... There were strong reports that he was fighting Conte's battles in the board room and Conte was left frustrated when he'd left. I do think we need this football knowledgeable intermediary between the coaching staff and the board, somebody to draw a vision together with the manager and help implement it with the suits upstairs.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

4 minutes ago, manpe said:

Yup, I would take Emenalo back. Don't think anymore he was THE problem, by the sounds of it he actually seemed to side with the managers more often than not... There were strong reports that he was fighting Conte's battles in the board room and Conte was left frustrated when he'd left. I do think we need this football knowledgeable intermediary between the coaching staff and the board, somebody to draw a vision together with the manager and help implement it with the suits upstairs.

Absolutely. 

Marina is just making us into franchise. 

Pulisic getting them millions of fans in usa and us having record revenues every season is her dream.

United has a cuckoo in Woodward too, they havent been doing well either. 

Liverpool and city brought some brain from germany and spain which did wonders to them.

[manpe 10,861]

10 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

I replied to you in another thread on this. 

But yeah completely agree it will not be a quick process. However we did play much better two months ago, the way we should be playing. 

Dont even mind we won 12 straight or so. Point is our football was actualy very enjoyable to watch. Now its pure boredom even if we manage to win 1:0 or 2:1.

What happend? We didnt have injuries. It couldnt be fatigue because it started in october.

Hazard was absolutely on fire prior and he isnt that great since october. Jorginho was also much more influental first months compared to now.

I think 3 major factors: 1) Teams learned to counter us and we haven't yet learned to counter their counter, 2) Fatigue, both physical and mental, partly due to poor rotation (in my opinion), 3) Injuries (Pedro, for example, is actually crucial for us)

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

Mourinho and Conte didn't get full backing from the board and people think Sarri will?  

He might. Conte and Mou got some backing in the beginning, but as things started to turn sour and we reverted to archaic football again each time, the board might have felt that this shit wouldn't last long and wouldn't buy players solely for their styles. Sarri promises to bring the type of football that Roman has reportedly always wanted, so he might be more forthcoming.

[Superblue 6,372]

12 minutes ago, Jason said:

We really need a Director of Football to help provide a clear direction of our playing squad. Emenalo was definitely onto something around 2012/2013 when we bought the small, technical players to play attacking football but we then just had to go bring back Mourinho and see him crush the plan in 1-2 years. 

Agree, but there's no guarantees how much influence the director of football has either.

Is it possible that Emenalo left for that reason?

The key power at the club besides Roman is Marina and that will not change regardless of who we bring in anywhere across the food chain.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, manpe said:

 

He might. Conte and Mou got some backing in the beginning, but as things started to turn sour and we reverted to archaic football again each time, the board might have felt that this shit wouldn't last long and wouldn't buy players solely for their styles. Sarri promises to bring the type of football that Roman has reportedly always wanted, so he might be more forthcoming.

You're optimistic! Both Conte and Mourinho got some backing early on may be because the transfers were cheap - main players only cost around 20-40 million. The minute they started asking for more and expensive players, Roman was less forthcoming and ended up with some bloody low grade signings. Who's to say it won't happen with Sarri again? I know we've signed the likes of Kepa, Jorginho, Pulisic, Morata etc but there's no guarantee we'll keep up that spending.

[manpe 10,861]

Just now, Jason said:

You're optimistic! Both Conte and Mourinho got some backing early on may be because the transfers were cheap - main players only cost around 20-40 million. The minute they started asking for more and expensive players, Roman was less forthcoming and ended up with some bloody low grade signings. Who's to say it won't happen with Sarri again? I know we've signed the likes of Kepa, Jorginho, Pulisic, Morata etc but there's no guarantee we'll keep up that spending.

We just have to...

 

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, manpe said:

We just have to...

 

Chelsea and Faith don't go along together.

[manpe 10,861]

Just now, Jason said:

Chelsea and Faith don't go along together.

2012 May

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

...
 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

25 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

I replied to you in another thread on this. 

But yeah completely agree it will not be a quick process. However we did play much better two months ago, the way we should be playing. 

Dont even mind we won 12 straight or so. Point is our football was actualy very enjoyable to watch. Now its pure boredom even if we manage to win 1:0 or 2:1.

What happend? We didnt have injuries. It couldnt be fatigue because it started in october.

Hazard was absolutely on fire prior and he isnt that great since october. Jorginho was also much more influental first months compared to now.

Earlier on we had time between games and sarri had enough hours to implement his tactics before the next match. Now we have been playing every 3 days since the end of November, so little preparation for each match and fatigue has exposed chelsea.

Sarri cannot escape blame, he's too soft on these players. He keeps playing under performing players and he thinks we don't need a striker when we've scored 11 goals in our last 10 games (1 in our last 3  )

[kellzfresh 7,229]

[manpe 10,861]

Sarri about pulisic:

‘I don’t know. I’m not in charge of the market so it’s very difficult to speak about the market or the Pulisic deal. The board know my opinion. I think we need something different for characteristics


Wtf?!

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Shit, that's not good.

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[Clockwork 1,794]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

This is the problem with hiring idealists - they can be extremely stubborn and only know one way of playing. If Plan A doesn't work, keep going with Plan A! 

I don't think that is the issue at all, Guardiola is the poster boy for idealistic football, he is nowhere near as stubborn as Sarri is showing. Pep can change his formation, will drop players and mix it up. The issue is not a lack of plan B, in fact the way he played against City shows that he is pragmatic to that end to get results. 

The issue with Sarri is his persistence of playing the same underperforming players, for example not sure what Plan A that shithead Alonso fits into; really poor on both ends of the football. He treats him like a untouchable player and a club legend. We have the fewest goals of the top six and the way we are playing that will grow larger and larger. He needs to change it up; he is getting ultra limited play form his FB, no creativity in midfield, and toothless in attack. 

It is getting to the point of insanity, trying the same things and expecting different result. He simply has to change things. 

[Blue Armour 4,439]

30 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Sarri about pulisic:

‘I don’t know. I’m not in charge of the market so it’s very difficult to speak about the market or the Pulisic deal. The board know my opinion. I think we need something different for characteristics


Wtf?!

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lol...I hope that's just Sarri's English..

if not...meh...don't know what to make of that. At least that's a headache only for the next season.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

8 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

I don't think that is the issue at all, Guardiola is the poster boy for idealistic football, he is nowhere near as stubborn as Sarri is showing. Pep can change his formation, will drop players and mix it up. The issue is not a lack of plan B, in fact the way he played against City shows that he is pragmatic to that end to get results. 

The issue with Sarri is his persistence of playing the same underperforming players, for example not sure what Plan A that shithead Alonso fits into; really poor on both ends of the football. He treats him like a untouchable player and a club legend. We have the fewest goals of the top six and they way we are playing that will grow larger and larger. He needs to change it up; he is getting ultra limited play form his FB, no creativity in midfield, and toothless in attack. 

It is getting to the point of insanity, trying the same things and expecting different result. He simply has change things. 

Fewest goals scored in the top 6...SMH at that stat.

We were scoring for fun at the start of this season, averaging nearly 2 goals a game.

Now its all dried up.