quickpassnmove 924 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Another November goes by and it's time to stop watching CFC unless we know that CHO, RLC and EA are getting into the lineup somehow. Eden Hazard's career is going by without top notch player around him --which is something I would argue we lacked during Didier's career too. Not the least bit surprised. This squad got to 55% of what Maurizio wants over a month or so ago and just cannot go further. Now it's up to the manager to start making changes. Changes have been due for some weeks IMO. And what about Morata? Can't fix that, I think. He should try another league probably. Oh... and are we in transition? FFS, this club has been in half-ass transition for a decade IMO, never fully transitioning to something and often reversing due to lack of quality and scoring in the squad. This is the fault of leadership at the club's offices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Jason said: The least Azpi brings to the team is defensive stability. He's had some dodgy games at the start of the season but overall, he's been solid and can see why Sarri starts him. People over-exaggerate his supposedly bad form only because of his attacking play. But the other two? Wolves targeted Alonso tonight and got plenty of joy out of it. And Willian's pathetic attempt to keep the ball (if we can call it that) for the second goal sums it all up. But Sarri, for some reason, remains blind to obvious issues. And willian missed a golden chance to put us 2-0 up from that hazard pass. If that was pedro, we win today. Willian and Alonso have been getting away with it Sideshow Luiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, quickpassnmove said: Another November goes by and it's time to stop watching CFC unless we know that CHO, RLC and EA are getting into the lineup somehow. Not the least bit surprised. This squad got to 55% of what Maurizio wants over a month or so ago and just cannot go further. Now it's up to the manager to start making changes. Changes have been due for some weeks IMO. And what about Morata? Can't fix that, I think. He should try another league probably. The winter curse is because we do not rotate well, in Conte's first season and arguably his 2nd we were able to beat it off because he rotated well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 5, 2018 Popular Post! Share Posted December 5, 2018 He has to start taking some blame now, if he cant get Emerson and Pedro/CHO to play over Alonso and Willian. Ive had enough of those two Alabama, Sideshow Luiz, DDA and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said: The best football we have played is arguably in Mourinho's first season back. To hell with this philophy crap. Just talent and hard work. The first part of 2014/15 season was probably the best football any Mourinho team has ever played. Shame it didn't last very long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, !Hazard! said: The first part of 2014/15 season was probably the best football any Mourinho team has ever played. Shame it didn't last very long I would say the 2004/2005 season. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, quickpassnmove said: I would say the 2004/2005 season. 2004/5 team was best Mourinho team, best Chelsea team ever. Fucking Victimpool taking us out in CL was main thing that stopped it from being a top 10, top 15 in world history level team. Johnnyeye and Mana 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 This is the 3rd manager on the trot, Mourinho, Conte and now Sarri who keep on playing out of form or shit players over younger, hungrier or better suited players week in, week out. Something is seriously fishy going on behind the scenes. These three managers can't all be blind to the obvious. Player payer is real at Chelsea, we know that but whatever is driving the vehicle of lunacy at Chelsea needs to be addressed for us to fullfil our destiny under Roman. manpe and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,509 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Stubborn manager, keeps playing out of form and shit players while expecting good results, wake up and smell the coffee Sarri, maybe the cigarette smoke is clouding your judgement or else its the Russian roulette for you as we all know it. mccg and Mana 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 This the problem. Same players who aren't performing and yet keep getting played. If not working mix it up a bit what's the worse that can happen? Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 9 hours ago, quickpassnmove said: Oh... and are we in transition? FFS, this club has been in half-ass transition for a decade IMO, never fully transitioning to something and often reversing due to lack of quality and scoring in the squad. This is the fault of leadership at the club's offices. I have to say I chuckled at this, because it is true. We have been saying we're in transition at least since 2010, but we have never got anywhere because there has never been any true vision to where we should transition! We bought young attacking talents only to bring in Mourinho, then Conte... Before them Benitez, RDM, AVB - all play very different styles from each other. We then stacked up players for their tactics, and now we bring in the polar opposite manager with what seems minimal support in the market. Sarri is not blameless. I blamed Mourinho for running a struggling Ivanovic to the ground when there were clearly better alternatives available (FILIPE LUIS !!!!!!!!!). The same with Alonso now, we have an alternative who is worth a shot, being frozen out of the team completely. Alonso was okay for 5 at the back, but in a 4 it's becoming clearer and clearer that he just doesn't cut it. If one of our academy products put in a performance like Alonso has done lately, he'd be proclaimed "not ready for EPL" and be shipped on loan. Reputation and price tag plays an unbelievable role in Chelsea's player selection, double standards every-fucking-where. kellzfresh, Johnnyeye and quickpassnmove 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, manpe said: I have to say I chuckled at this, because it is true. We have been saying we're in transition at least since 2010, but we have never got anywhere because there has never been any true vision to where we should transition! We bought young attacking talents only to bring in Mourinho, then Conte... Before them Benitez, RDM, AVB - all play very different styles from each other. We then stacked up players for their tactics, and now we bring in the polar opposite manager with what seems minimal support in the market. Sarri is not blameless. I blamed Mourinho for running a struggling Ivanovic to the ground when there were clearly better alternatives available (FILIPE LUIS !!!!!!!!!). The same with Alonso now, we have an alternative who is worth a shot, being frozen out of the team completely. Alonso was okay for 5 at the back, but in a 4 it's becoming clearer and clearer that he just doesn't cut it. If one of our academy products put in a performance like Alonso has done lately, he'd be proclaimed "not ready for EPL" and be shipped on loan. Reputation and price tag plays an unbelievable role in Chelsea's player selection, double standards every-fucking-where. I have to add: now is different from Chelsea's titles in the past 7 years however. Chelsea will not defend their way to title (especially without J.T., superman) and we don't have a Didier or Diego to trouble defenders either. Now we have Pep, Juergen, and managers like Wolves' and Bournemouth to contend with. I think things have changed and Chelsea need go in fully for a real transition this time. No idea if Maurizio Sarri is an answer; so far, a manager has NOT been the answer (just as AVB has turned up again in discussion here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Just now, quickpassnmove said: I have to add: now is different from Chelsea's titles in the past 7 years however. Chelsea will not defend their way to title (especially without J.T., superman) and we don't have a Didier or Diego to trouble defenders either. Now we have Pep, Juergen, and managers like Wolves' and Bournemouth to contend with. I think things have changed and Chelsea need go in fully for a real transition this time. No idea if Maurizio Sarri is an answer; so far, a manager has NOT been the answer (just as AVB has turned up again in discussion here). A transition doesn't depend on the manager as much as it depends on the people behind the curtains. You just have to have a manager who fits the ambitions of where they want the transition to end up at. Sarri does fit the bill of playing quick pass'n'move ( ) football, but now he needs to be fully backed. BlueSunshine, quickpassnmove and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 9 hours ago, DDA said: This is the 3rd manager on the trot, Mourinho, Conte and now Sarri who keep on playing out of form or shit players over younger, hungrier or better suited players week in, week out. Something is seriously fishy going on behind the scenes. These three managers can't all be blind to the obvious. Player payer is real at Chelsea, we know that but whatever is driving the vehicle of lunacy at Chelsea needs to be addressed for us to fullfil our destiny under Roman. The team is picked by people behind the scenes, because I don't give a fuck who you are, you must be fucking blind to constantly keep playing under-performing wage thieves like Alonso, Willian, Morata and Fabregas. The choices made by the board to renew certain contracts, the purchases and the decisions are why we are absolute streets behind City. Why? Because we have bought shite, middle of the road players, updated big contracts for average players and had zero fucking ambition in the last 4-5 years. Zappacosta, Alonso, Morata, Drinkwater etc absolute horrendous, horrendous purchases and don't get me started on the cost of some of them. There is also no urgency or fore thought to get players like RLC or CHO into the frame whilst players playing in their respected positions go through the fucking motions and collect upward of £200k a week. The club has no direction what so fucking ever. DDA, Vesper, Laylabelle and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,315 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Sarri clock is ticking -tick,tock,tick,tock, Next..... Johnnyeye, Mana, Vesper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Sarri mystified by Chelsea’s second-half mentality, attitude after conceding to Wolves https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2018/12/5/18127992/wolverhampton-wanderers-chelsea-premier-league-post-match-comments-maurizio-sarri Maybe putting our best dm(aka Kante) in his best position 2nd half might of helped ?! Maybe Sarri's mentality needs looked at asap?! Johnnyeye and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Chelsea players had too much confidence, says Maurizio Sarri "Of course, after this match we lost confidence but maybe it is better because sometimes my players show me they have too much confidence." https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11572744/sarri-players-had-too-much-confidence Ffs getting to sound like Jose book of bullshit excuses Vesper and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Sarri should have prioritized wolves game .it is much more easy to get points against wolves than city...Jorginho is the heart of sarri system...he should play every PL game... distance between the players clearly indicate replacements are not adapted to system...we cannot get away with second xi in PL games BlueLyon, Vesper and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, mccg said: Chelsea players had too much confidence, says Maurizio Sarri "Of course, after this match we lost confidence but maybe it is better because sometimes my players show me they have too much confidence." https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11572744/sarri-players-had-too-much-confidence Ffs getting to sound like Jose book of bullshit excuses It does sound quite Mourinho-like. I am not a fan of using players' emotional states as rational for on field performances. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 But why would they be over confident. Wolves are mid table.. We're not exactly sitting top miles from the rest so no reason to be. We knew we needed this win with City coming up... Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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