Superblue 6,372 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just now, the wes said: Why not signed new deal after that then request for number 10 jersey ?? Instead of put in the request in with his new deal talksย As I said it's probably not so much a 'demand', more a topic of conversation which has been raised during the contract talks. With the Willian interview though, it will be interesting how this pans out and who ends up with the number 10. the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 ย MoroccanBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 9 hours ago, the wes said: A 18 year old demanding a number 10 jersey he should be proud to put any number on his back to play for Chelsea I can't stand the attitude of CHO already sell him to fuck you have to earn the number not demand itย Hazard wore 17 he didn't demand the number 10 jersey when he signed for Chelseaย Remember Joey Cole saying his dad almost made him walk away from signing for Chelsea because they'd promised him the no10 shirt and then where going to give it to veron or someone like that lol. I couldn't give a monkeys what number they gave me if I'd the chance to play for my boyhood club. But as others have said think it's more a request than a demand Bosnian Blue and the wes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 59 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said: Remember Joey Cole saying his dad almost made him walk away from signing for Chelsea because they'd promised him the no10 shirt and then where going to give it to veron or someone like that lol. I couldn't give a monkeys what number they gave me if I'd the chance to play for my boyhood club. But as others have said think it's more a request than a demand I remember Gallas throw his dolly's out of the pram because ballack got his number 13 Jerseyย Bosnian Blue and ulsterchelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Of course the club had no obligation to cough up but it would be stupid not to. We're being offered around ยฃ30m for an 18 year old with 12 months on his contract and would lose him next year for minimal compensation.ย Signed up for 5 years, as an asset he suddenly becomes worth ยฃ80-100m. I would expect in September/October when we first wanted to renew him we would have been looking at ยฃ40-50k possibly as a contract anyway. If we're paying an extra ยฃ2.5-3m per annum in wages to him but increased his market value by about ยฃ50m it makes complete financial sense.ย I completely agree with you that wages should be earned on performances and not hype or potential but its not as simple as that and quite frankly I'd rather we overpay him a little and take that chance that he'll realise his potential and be worth the money as opposed to not paying up and losing a player who could become a serious talent given the platform.There were talks of Bayern willing to bid ยฃ45m in his current predicament. If he was solely after a bigger paycheck, I would have shipped him off. This was during a time many of us, myself included, got caught up in the whole Mourinhoย work rate > technical ability hype.ย Oscar+Ramires > Mata + KDB Willian > Salahย That's the down side of winning. People fail to see the bigger picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 9 hours ago, the wes said: I remember Gallas throw his dolly's out of the pram because ballack got his number 13 Jerseyย The less said about him the betterย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Can't wait to see the lad sitting next to Marina with pen in hand.ย My love for Odoi is no secret on here... he is going to be gargantuan for this club. RJBOfficial 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 He doesn't even have 50 appearances and tbf, his most impressive performances have been in the Europa League. Fair enough the markets fucked but again what if he has 2 good seasons and wants a new contract, where do we go then? 200K? 300K? 350K? 100k is maybe not as bad as say 180K but leaves us in a weak position if he goes and has a few good seasons and we want him to renew. He can basically just go well I'm on 100k or 180k, I've had a few good seasons,ย I want double.... I'm not going to agree with the comments about him being a mercenary which is ludicrous and laughable but with modern day football, it does help players secure bigger contracts but still think he has a lot to show now to justify getting that sort of money. I made a joke about United paying Rashford 250K or whatever with his new deal despite having not really kicked on as much as he should have but the chances are in 2 seasons down the line if the club or Callum wantsย to renew , we will be in exactly the same position. Especially if its 180K a week. Regardless of if hes kicked on or not. ย There is no doubt regarding his talent, it was clear to see when Conte played him against Bournemouth and Newcastle, he had something about him but again, hes excelled in the Europa League and looked middle of the road in the PL. I'd like to have seen him do a bit more in the PL before he got injured to warrant the club giving him a huge financial contract like that but the way the market is and also the fact as previously alluded he did have a bit of leverage as we have a transfer ban and 3 wingers etc, has helped him. Lets just hope he kicks on because there have been kids who have penned huge deals and just coasted from there onward, although I don't think he will coast it and he will continue to develop here.ย The key is to not let his contract run down so much before we make a decision.We either renew it after 2/3 years or we sell. If he performs well then he will want mega money. But that'd also make him one of the most valuable 20 year olds on the market so we could sell or renew.We are only in this situation because he previously wanted to go due to a lack of playing time and we have a transfer ban.Whats the worst case. At his age he's more talented and has more appearances than mount rlc etc did. And he's 2 years younger than mount and 5 years younger than RLC which is mental. The talent in this kid is more than any talent I've ever seen from an 18 year old in many years.It doesn't matter how many games he's played he's 18 playing for us who aren't exactly renound (in the past... hopefully) for trying youth.Only matters how good you are and can be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,189 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 On 26/07/2019 at 7:07 PM, Hutcho said: The talent in this kid is more than any talent I've ever seen from an 18 year old in many years. ย Mbappe kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 ย Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The fan teasers were already old. Sign the contract and end the drama. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,189 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: The fan teasers were already old. Sign the contract and end the drama. absolutely wtf is going on with him bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 this is getting a bit ridiculous, what is taking so long? have a feeling his agents/representation are the ones not making this easy... Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,189 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just now, oldportblue said: this is getting a bit ridiculous, what is taking so long? have a feeling his agents/representation are the ones not making this easy... his CUNT of a brother that twat is utter poison looking for a big payout as he was SHIT as a player Supermonkey92, bigbluewillie and Bosnian Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 So what's the deal?ย I thought a contract was going to be signed?ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Fernando said: So what's the deal?ย I thought a contract was going to be signed?ย Fight over number 10 with Willianย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 4:54 AM, MoroccanBlue said: This was during a time many of us, myself included, got caught up in the whole Mourinhoย work rate > technical ability hype.ย Oscar+Ramires > Mata + KDB Willian > Salahย The problem you need balance in your team. Hazard is a monster but you need a winger across him that can defend, we also had Fabregas who is awful at defending but magical creator hence we have Oscar who was a workhorse with decent ability between the lines.ย ย robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jase 43,479 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Fernando said: So what's the deal?ย I thought a contract was going to be signed?ย People are so impatient these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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