Mason Mount

[Vesper 30,091]

32 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

When you play for a team that has 70% possession and is one of the best in the league and you are AM you have to be there 😁 I mean Havertz is there too and he played just a couple of games as number 8. 

Barkley right there on top as well because he plays as AM in 4231. How many attacking midfielders are there in the league? 5? 6?

And also I saw Mount had 5 key passes against Newcastle. Does anyone remember just one? Really curious how they measure that? 

Are stats everything to you? 😄

 

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Edited February 18, 2021 by Vesper

[Tomo 21,751]

Remember when he was only playing cause he was blackmailing Lampard and a 'proper' manager was going to drop him?

Good times! 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Remember when he was only playing cause he was blackmailing Lampard and a 'proper' manager was going to drop him?

Good times! 

Best player for us again by a mile. If he could just be a bit more proficient in front of goal and take a wee bit more care with his final pass his place in the team wouldnt be in doubt. Although he does many other things that helps the team and he will probably always be under appreciated. He will go from Lampard’s son to Tuchel’s son in some peoples eyes...

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

Although he does many other things that helps the team and he will probably always be under appreciated.

Same could be said about some other players...

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

Same could be said about some other players...

True but what I like about him is he takes responsibility in the final third. He doesn’t  always have the final pass but he’s wanting to make things happen and takes risks. Once he irons out his final output in terms of final pass and his shooting, people will appreciate his value much more. 

His general play is good though, he is pretty well rounded, he also works hard and I know people don’t see that as a huge quality but in modern day football pressing the ball when you lose it is so common and so important now. We wont see him being subbed off like CHO was for something to do with poor energy in counter pressing or whatever TT said it was. 

[King Kante 1,643]

2 hours ago, Tomo said:

Remember when he was only playing cause he was blackmailing Lampard and a 'proper' manager was going to drop him?

Good times! 

Well said. 

[Jase 43,479]

18 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

True but what I like about him is he takes responsibility in the final third. He doesn’t  always have the final pass but he’s wanting to make things happen and takes risks. Once he irons out his final output in terms of final pass and his shooting, people will appreciate his value much more. 

His general play is good though, he is pretty well rounded, he also works hard and I know people don’t see that as a huge quality but in modern day football pressing the ball when you lose it is so common and so important now. We wont see him being subbed off like CHO was for something to do with poor energy in counter pressing or whatever TT said it was. 

Mount might have the potential to be great but I feel like he's been overhyped/overrated way beyond his current ability right now. 

And was just thinking earlier, if this Mount had come through the academy at another club, would we go gaga and want to buy him for say 30, 40, 50 million now? 

[DDA 9,924]

39 minutes ago, Jason said:

Mount might have the potential to be great but I feel like he's been overhyped/overrated way beyond his current ability right now. 

And was just thinking earlier, if this Mount had come through the academy at another club, would we go gaga and want to buy him for say 30, 40, 50 million now? 

Not before but if he plays like he did yesterday... the top clubs would certainly be looking at his progress. With performances like that, he is playing within the same bracket as Greilish.

[Jase 43,479]

18 minutes ago, DDA said:

Not before but if he plays like he did yesterday... the top clubs would certainly be looking at his progress. With performances like that, he is playing within the same bracket as Greilish.

Maybe but he's still lacking so much in the final third. At the moment, you could say he's bit like Willian. Puts in a lot of effort but becomes absolute braindead in the final third. 

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

7 minutes ago, Jason said:

Maybe but he's still lacking so much in the final third. At the moment, you could say he's bit like Willian. Puts in a lot of effort but becomes absolute braindead in the final third. 

Another similarity to Willian is that he is our best player when we are worst probably because of that work rate. Yesterday, last month with Lampard. Willian was also our best player when we finished 10th.

[Tomo 21,751]

3 hours ago, DDA said:

Not before but if he plays like he did yesterday... the top clubs would certainly be looking at his progress. With performances like that, he is playing within the same bracket as Greilish.

I wouldn't say that at the moment but what people conveniently miss out when using Grealish as a stick to beat Mount with is when the former was Mason's age he was breaking the PL record for consecutive defeats and "starring" in one of the worst PL teams of all time.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

21 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I wouldn't say that at the moment but what people conveniently miss out when using Grealish as a stick to beat Mount with is when the former was Mason's age he was breaking the PL record for consecutive defeats and "starring" in one of the worst PL teams of all time.

If Mount played for lets say United, the media would haul him as a great Eng player already.

[DDA 9,924]

33 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I wouldn't say that at the moment but what people conveniently miss out when using Grealish as a stick to beat Mount with is when the former was Mason's age he was breaking the PL record for consecutive defeats and "starring" in one of the worst PL teams of all time.

And he still shone in that hurrendous Villa side. Would Mount? We will never know. Imagine Grealish playing here with better players around him... I'm sure he would look even better.

[DDA 9,924]

11 hours ago, Mana said:

Maybe you're right, you just have to look at Harry Maguire.

Personally if Mount was playing for a different club, would I want him? No. He's just a hardworker with no end product.

I wouldn't say 'no' end product.. but very inconsistent, yes. 

If he can sort out that part of his game, we have a real player on our hands but still... he is outshining all of the other 'youth' products this season.

[Stats 7,136]

Imagine writing off a 22 year old who has played almost every game for us and been probably our best player. People will say it is not clear cut chances or a lot of the chances created are from corners, but he is in the top 5 in league for chances created. Look at the piece of play he done against Southampton where he went past 2-3 players and crossed the ball in with his weaker foot and James failed to score, which he really should have.

Bruno Fernandes arguably one of the best midfielders in the world, at the age between 20-23 was at Udinese for a couple of seasons and then went Sampdoria for a season and played over 30 games during those seasons and never racked up more than 5 goals or assists in one single season. Can you imagine anyone thought he would be as good as he is now? I can't believe some of the criticism I see on him sometimes.

No end product is nonsense. He is leading by example at his age at a club where we have spent millions but both managers we have had in charge have continued to play him. He has flaws that any 22 year old will have, but he will get better and I can only imagine a few years time, how good he will be.