Tiemoue Bakayoko

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

11 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

What about Conte who kept him on after that shocker of a 1st half? 

What can I say?

He's another one whose been very poor this season as well. 

[lucashm 340]

What exactly is this guy good at? fucking hell man, the dude is an absolutely shit passer, an even worse dribbler, just a fucking terrible player all around.

People keep saying that he has potential, at fucking what exactly? because at his age he should have the fucking basic´s covered at least

[Jase 43,479]

Bakayoko was poor today. No doubt about that. But the irony of all this moaning is that we did the same with some previous players and are now regretting we sold them.

[positivefootball 195]

Still atrocious after so called "good" showings. Garbage and useless.

[Styles 9,790]

LOL only Chelsea would see the Monaco team from last season and decide the one player they wanted was Bakayoko.

Only us.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

3 minutes ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

What can I say?

He's another one whose been very poor this season as well. 

He's been poor Conte. Maybe with the extra UCL burden he's showing a more realistic picture of his coaching level? He still has no answer to the brand of football Pochettino, Klopp and Guardiola play. How many times have these teams outplayed us? Now with CL football its more of a level playing field and Conte isn't showing anything amazing. 

[LAM09 6,744]

He was dreadful today. Not only was he the worst player on the field, but assisted Salah as well.

[lucashm 340]

5 minutes ago, Jason said:

Bakayoko was poor today. No doubt about that. But the irony of all this moaning is that we did the same with some previous players and are now regretting we sold them.

Sorry, but those guys at least showed something, this guys is completely garbage.

Could please enlighten me, at WHAT does he excel exactly?

[El P. 1,354]

Sell him to Milan for 25 millions, if possible.

[Leif 6,006]

10 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

He's been poor Conte. Maybe with the extra UCL burden he's showing a more realistic picture of his coaching level? He still has no answer to the brand of football Pochettino, Klopp and Guardiola play. How many times have these teams outplayed us? Now with CL football its more of a level playing field and Conte isn't showing anything amazing. 

I agree with all of that. At the same time, a big part of our struggle is playing 5 defenders and expecting to play strong teams off the field. And this 5-defender-scenario only happens because we don't have the players required to play like a top team should - which I personally believe is the fault of other people from the club. Conte plays the hand he was dealt.

I think we'd be far worse without him. He clearly recognised we don't have the quality, so he tailor-made an odd system for us, which at least makes us somewhat able to grind out results most of the time. I have so much respect for the man because of that.

I imagine if we had chests full of cash (a Chelsea supporter, trying to imagine his club having more money...dreadful), and brought in better players, we'd be great under Conte, no matter who we faced. Just go back to a regular 4-2-3-1, Morata up top, Hazard behind; 2 brand new brilliant wingers; 2 brand new brilliant full backs; and then a real partner for Kante. Easier said than done though. 5-6 XI-level players short.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Just now, Leif said:

I agree with all of that. A big part of our struggle is playing 5 defenders and expecting to play strong teams off the field. And that happens only because we don't have the players required to play like a top team should - which I personally believe is the fault of other people from the club. Conte plays the hand he was dealt.

I think we'd be far worse without him. He clearly recognised we don't have the quality, so he tailor-made an odd system for us, which at least makes us somewhat able to grind out results most of the time. I have so much respect for the man because of that.

I imagine if we had chests full of cash and brought in better players, we'd be great under Conte, no matter who we faced. Just go back to a regular 4-2-3-1, Morata up top, Hazard behind; 2 brand new brilliant wingers; 2 brand new brilliant full backs; and then a real partner for Kante. Easier said than done. 5-6 XI-level players short.

I'm not so sure about that. I think being able to coach the brand of football Guardiola plays is a talent. Of couse if he had a wad of cash to spend he would build a stronger team but how will his team play? Will we be able to match City? I have my doubts. I don't really see much in his coaching strengths that suggest he can build a team to play football against Guardiola. Or even Klopp and Pochettino for that matter. 

 

[Leif 6,006]

I don't see any irony in these criticisms, which are certainly not merely moans. Who have we sold, and regretted, who performed like Bakayoko? We don't regret selling Matic. De Bruyne was obviously dripping in quality even under Mourinho. Selling Salah was absolutely the right thing to do - he's great at what he does, but what he does is limited, and won't consistently bring you to cup finals. We have no regrets over the Lukaku sale. No regrets re: Mata. No regrets re: Oscar. Nor Diego Costa for most of us, I think.

It's fantasy to pretend we've gone through this before with other players. We haven't moaned moaned moaned about a player, only to be like 'How come we sold him!!!!!' seasons on. Not once in my memory.

We're back where we were a few seasons ago. Unfortunately with players who cost so much, that neither the coach or the board will have the balls to cut their losses early. So, we'll be mediocre for something like 2-3 more seasons, finally phase Bakayoko into a bench player, introduce someone who can pass well from deep, and then enjoy 1 year of success. It's how we roll.

[lucashm 340]

3 minutes ago, Leif said:

I agree with all of that. At the same time, a big part of our struggle is playing 5 defenders and expecting to play strong teams off the field. And this 5-defender-scenario only happens because we don't have the players required to play like a top team should - which I personally believe is the fault of other people from the club. Conte plays the hand he was dealt.

I think we'd be far worse without him. He clearly recognised we don't have the quality, so he tailor-made an odd system for us, which at least makes us somewhat able to grind out results most of the time. I have so much respect for the man because of that.

I imagine if we had chests full of cash (a Chelsea supporter, trying to imagine his club having more money...dreadful), and brought in better players, we'd be great under Conte, no matter who we faced. Just go back to a regular 4-2-3-1, Morata up top, Hazard behind; 2 brand new brilliant wingers; 2 brand new brilliant full backs; and then a real partner for Kante. Easier said than done though. 5-6 XI-level players short.

I disagree. I think that the system we are playing so far is perfect for us(3-5-2) and IMO, we were absolutely not defensive, as a matter of fact, we should have won and comfortably, but we just couldn´t take our chances. I think we are 3 players short of having a top 5 starting eleven in the world. 2 WB´s( Sandro and a new RWB) and a midfielder in place of Baka( RLC if he develops as we are expecting him to).

[WNDS 502]

Eh, he's too raw and naive to be a starter, I feel. Lots of physicality, seems to have potential, but not currently good enough. Hopefully he improves.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

Just now, Laylabelle said:

Where did we find him?! Who found him?! And who thought he was worth it?!

Crazy and why he gets played..Maybe he hopes he'll become better..needs to keep hoping 

Our brilliant technical director looked across the vast array of world football, and saw a budding young team full of unique talents in AS Monaco take Ligue Un & the UCL by storm last season. 

Monaco had many many talents from Mbappe, Bernado Silva, Fabinho, Thomas Lemar, Djibril Sidibe, Benjamin Mendy and Bakayoko.

Out of all those young talents, Bakayoko was without a doubt the least talented player/ player that needed the most work. We all could see it. Take a look at his transfer thread, and you could see all the criticisms. 

And even though Bakayoko's entourage tried their absolute hardest to make this transfer as difficult as possible, (by demanding high middleman fees) AND the fact that Bakayoko needed knee surgery.  Our brilliant fooball directors couldn't possible find any better alternatives to sign and decided to press on with the deal and spend £40M on the lad. 

And here we are. Wondering what football skills this guy brings to the table that we didn't already have.

He can't complete mid-range to long-range passes even though he plays as a CM. Needs multiple touches to gain control, and only excels when he has time and space to dribble into, which even then isn't a guarantee he'll make the right footballing decision. 

So again I ask, what the fuck does Bakayoko bring to CFC ? 

[Mufassir08 2,400]

His performances won't surprise those who regularly watched him at Monaco, However, this is his first season here and we must remain patient with him despite his struggles.

[Georgy 439]

Don't worry guys he will be gone when he gets close to 30!

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

6 minutes ago, Georgy said:

Don't worry guys he will be gone when he gets close to 30!

Is he 29?