Antonio Rudiger

[Jype 6,398]

One thing to consider with Rudiger/Christensen is also finances. AC being an academy graduate with no transfer fee amortisation is a much cheaper player than Rüdiger.

AC only costs the club around £4M a year on the books (80k/wk wages) and Rüdiger total cost is around £11M a year (£100k/wk wages and £5.8M yearly amortisation). If they are considered equally good / bad players doesn't it make more sense to keep the one who's cheaper and younger?

And this is coming from someone who doesn't really rate Christensen but Rüdiger is not any better either.

[King Kante 1,476]

5 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Very surprised to see him seemingly being pushed out.

Odd decision

I am not so sure. Rudiger was pretty dire last season. I have said it for a while now but if Rudi/Zouma/AC leave it is hardly a surprise as each one of them is compromised by some fault in their game. People disagree over which one is worse but the fact of the matter is that it is dependent on your own preferences in what you want to see in a CB as to which one you want to keep. 

[LAM09 6,749]

I am not so sure. Rudiger was pretty dire last season. I have said it for a while now but if Rudi/Zouma/AC leave it is hardly a surprise as each one of them is compromised by some fault in their game. People disagree over which one is worse but the fact of the matter is that it is dependent on your own preferences in what you want to see in a CB as to which one you want to keep. 

Should he leave, we'll be losing even more experience at the back. I'd personally prefer to keep him over some of the other options.

Putting a lot of hope on Silva remaining fit in that regard.

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Report: Chelsea defender Antonio Rudiger wanted by PSG, loan exit more likely

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/report-chelsea-defender-antonio-rudiger-wanted-by-psg-loan-exit-more-likely/

 

Chelsea defender Antonio Rudiger is being strongly linked with a departure from Stamford Bridge in the remainder of the summer transfer window.

According to the Mail, the 27-year-old has been left out of the Blues squad on Wednesday night to face Barnsley in the third round of the Carabao Cup.

It is claimed that the German’s time in West London may be drawing to a close and it’s increasingly likely he will now leave in the next couple of weeks before the window shuts.

The report explains that French champions Paris Saint-Germain are interested in signing him, but a season-long loan looks the more likely scenario.

Rudiger, who moved to Chelsea for £29million (BBC) back in July 2017, has been a regular in the starting XI during his time at the club when he’s not been sidelined through injury.

The centre-back appears to have fallen down the pecking order now though under current manager Frank Lampard, who has five options to pick from in the heart of defence.

He is currently competing alongside Thiago Silva, Fikayo Tomori, Andreas Christensen and Kurt Zouma for one of two starting positions.

Rudiger is an experienced defender that on his day is a real powerhouse and leader at the back, but he’s struggled with inconsistent form at times and injury problems too.

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Pizy 18,368]

Would be so fucking dumb if we allow him to go to Spuds. People here can hate him all they want but he improves Mourinho's side. And they already look to be stronger than last season and should challenge us for a top 4 spot. So why help them?

And why are we the only big team in England who allow their players to go to rivals on a regular basis? If we went in for Dele Ali for instance (one of their out of favor players like Rüdiger) do you think Levy would even answer the phone? No chance.

[Milan 17,854]

I was proud when I heard that Abramovich 'does not do business with Tottenham'. Let's just keep it that way.

[Tomo 21,733]

30 minutes ago, Pizy said:

nd why are we the only big team in England who allow their players to go to rivals on a regular basis? If we went in for Dele Ali for instance (one of their out of favor players like Rüdiger) do you think Levy would even answer the phone? No chance.

A better example would be Danny Rose (was a top player but declined after a serious injury just like Rudi) and i reckon we would get him in an instant if we were stupid enough to make a bid.

Reason why we don't get many "favours" from rivals is we only ever go for players that are actually top class (Modric, Ash, Martial) or atleast good (Giroud), the only time we messed up was with Rooney and thankfully United were just as ignorant to his decline as we were.

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

Anyone else think it's a bit snakey, using him to get the Havertz and Werner deals over the line and then forcing him out

[Pizy 18,368]

15 minutes ago, We Hate Scouse said:

Anyone else think it's a bit snakey, using him to get the Haverts and Werner deals over the line and then forcing him out

Yeah, it's pretty fucked up. If Rüdiger could find his form again I still think he'd be our best CB. I'd rather see him in the XI a million times before AC.

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[NikkiCFC 7,953]

Tbh situation is different now. After players are back from int. break just 2 and a half months till new transfer window is open again. And we have another int. break in November so basically if they not play it will be just for games in 2 months period. Not too bad for their careers...

[Jase 43,479]

The Athletic has learned that the German defender had very positive talks with Jose Mourinho, and that Chelsea were in principle prepared to let him go to Tottenham on loan.

While initially open to the move, it is understood that Rudiger felt wary of the potential fall out from supporters for playing for one of Chelsea’s biggest rivals. The 27-year-old decided that he would be better served attempting to fight his way back into the Chelsea starting XI via a twelve-month stint abroad instead.

Approaches by AC Milan, Roma and Barcelona came to nothing due to financial constraints at all three clubs but Paris Saint-Germain manager Thomas Tuchel was very keen to bring in the former Stuttgart centre-back.

The PSG hierarchy felt they couldn’t sanction the deal, however, having failed to recoup significant sums via player sales. Tuchel already voiced his frustration with the French champions’ relative lack of spending this window a few days ago. Missing out on Rudiger will have done nothing to improve his mood.

[NikkiCFC 7,953]

Why are we doing this? 

Rudi being dropped here and in less than 9 months he has only 1 year left on contract so his price will only go down.

Lets try to sell him in January, and from his perspective EURO is coming so he should play somewhere.

[killer1257 3,282]

Why are we doing this? 
Rudi being dropped here and in less than 9 months he has only 1 year left on contract so his price will only go down.
Lets try to sell him in January, and from his perspective EURO is coming so he should play somewhere.

If PSG do not have the money to sign him, who has?

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10 hours ago, killer1257 said:

If PSG do not have the money to sign him, who has?

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Bayern

they only spent a net £37m, and that is not counting the loan money they are getting, nor the bonus payments the bindippers will surely owe them for Thiago

they may try and move Alaba this winter rather than let him go one a free in summer

even if they keep him, Boateng is on his last legs as being an even close to top player

and they only have two other CBs (other than a kid who was 17yo four months ago), both of whom are coming off huge injuries (and Lucas Hernandez has been a bit of flop, especially for the insane €80m they paid for him, PLUS he is now forced to LB, as Alphonso has to play winger due to the Sane new knee injury and Coman also with a new injury)

and they got well over £100m for winning the CL, plus will get a shedload more for winning the FWCC

they were almost like victimpool last season, with the poor depth now, although they did do 4 re-enforcing buys (granted most are meh plyers)

GK (fine)
Manuel Neuer  
Alexander Nübel    

CB
David Alaba  
Niklas Süle  
Jérôme Boateng (33yo next summer)
Tanguy Nianzou    Jun 7, 2002 (18)   

LB
Alphonso Davies  (playing winger atm)
Lucas Hernández  forced here due to Davies at winger and the fact is, that atm, Alaba is a better CB than he is

RB   
Benjamin Pavard  (can play CB, but with no Sarr, that means Kimmich here, which is great, but then the OLY remotely defensive MF they have is the brand new Rocha
Bouna Sarr  28yo (soon 29, in 3 months) new buy , but he is now injured and meh anyway

DMF
Joshua Kimmich   
Marc Roca   <<< rare thing, an actually good desperation buy

CMF
Leon Goretzka    
Corentin Tolisso    

AMF
Jamal Musiala    Feb 26, 2003 (17)    

LW
Leroy Sané    injured
Kingsley Coman     injured

RW
Serge Gnabry    
Douglas Costa   

SS
Thomas Müller    

CF
Robert Lewandowski    
Joshua Zirkzee    19yo
Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting   dregs
 

 

now, imagine if you took away those 4 new (none came until the last several days) players! so no Roca, Costa, Sarr and Choupo-Mouting

and also it truly looked like Alaba was leaving as well

the people giving me stick (especially the crazy abuse in some stream chats, although the actual Bayern people always said 'she is completely right') for long ago calling out their extraordinarily lack of depth coming down the tunnel at that time (I started as soon as the CL ended) truly look foolish

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10 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Why are we doing this? 

Rudi being dropped here and in less than 9 months he has only 1 year left on contract so his price will only go down.

Lets try to sell him in January, and from his perspective EURO is coming so he should play somewhere.

we all know I am hardcore on ageing players (Thiago being an exception, a VERY rare one), BUT that is once they are over 30yo (mainly 3 things, loss of pace, injuries coming far too often, and also a huge drop in value)

BUT

it is laughable that some on twitter are saying Rudiger is an old player and in total decline (beginning of March the bloke was still 26!)

rofmaoooooo

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The reason why Chelsea star refused a move to Tottenham Hotspur

https://astamfordbridgetoofar.com/2020/10/07/revealed-why-chelsea-star-rudiger-chose-to-reject-tottenham-move/

According to The Athletic (h/t The Daily Mail), Chelsea star Antonio Rudiger chose against joining Tottenham Hotspur as he did not want to have a falling out with the supporters.

The German ace has fallen down the pecking order at Chelsea this season. He has not played a single minute and does not appear to be in Frank Lampard’s plans.

With Thiago Silva’s signing effectively making Rudiger the club’s fifth-choice centre-back, he was expected to leave the club on loan.

One of the clubs keen on him were arch-rivals Tottenham. Now managed by former Blues boss Jose Mourinho, positive talks were held between Rudiger and the Portuguese tactician.

While Chelsea were ready to part ways with the German, the player himself chose against it. According to the report, he was worried about the fallout with the fans if he joined one of the club’s biggest rivals.

The 27-year-old will now stay at Stamford Bridge and fight for his place in the squad.

A number of Europe’s big guns were linked with a move for Rudiger. The likes of PSG, AC Milan, Roma and Barcelona were all touted to make a move but failed to land the player.

With his future now at the Bridge, Rudiger can hopefully replicate the form that we all know he is capable of.