John Terry

[lionsden 4,689]

So, you care more about being a morale winner , rather than a real winner? Because, as far as my knowledge is spread, that every single footballer on the Earth, would give their right arm to win a title in any means possible, rather than running the oposition ragged, only to miss a couple of chances and lose it at the end. Morale wins are for people who don't have a winning mentality. If you can accept a loss, then that is pathetic, because no one remembers number 2, EVEN if you are fucking amazing like, say, Brazil 2002.

What's pathetic is yanking the joy and entertainment out of football all in the name of winning at all cost and reducing a sport that is just as much about entertainment as it is about being competitive to just winning.

I will always respect teams who do not sacrifice their integrity, identity and genuine love for the game, are able to combine entertainment with success (winning with style) infinitely more than those on the other side of the spectrum.

As for your other point History remembers the revolutionary rinus Michels and his Netherland team of the 70's, 1982 Brazil and they never won anything. The zidane galatico team are also well respected despite underachieving massively, success wise.

I'm not even advocating seeking to entertain at the detriment of winning but the notion that achieving the right balance between the two is some impossible mission and a little poor us cannot strike the balance is nonsensical at best. To those that always hold this view, How could you all possibly know that we wouldn't have won the big games we either won,lost or drew in the past if we had played an attacking and pressing game?.

It's crazy how most people have been brainwashed into thinking winning and playing good attacking football are mutually exclusive. No matter how hard it may seem, the ultimate target/goal should always be to strike the perfect balance between entertaining and winning and we certainly aren't working towards achieving such feat under Jose.

[LondonsFinest 692]

It's crazy how most people have been brainwashed into thinking winning and playing good attacking football are mutually exclusive. No matter how hard it may seem, the ultimate target/goal should always be to strike the perfect balance between entertaining and winning and we certainly aren't working towards achieving such feat under Jose.

I respect your opinion and to be fair I realize what you mean. But by all means this IS a competitive sport. Competition makes this sport what it is, and nearly everybody would love to get trophies by any means necessary and that even includes cheating in certain situations. History may remember these days, but that is based also on the fact of the players that were playing at that team, who achieved so many big things at club/country level(Cruyff at Barca, Van Basten at Milan respectively) and managed to NOT do so at the other. I don't think it's mutually exclusive, I just firmly believe, that with this manager, and even with Klopp, Simeone, Guardiola(God forbid) or whoever, there would still be a tactical asset in his mind when and IF managing Chelsea, rather than just go all - out attractive. I don't remember who said it, but it was well said, titles are won against the small teams. And let's be honest, you have to really hate Mourinho, if you actually deny that we went on to control and beat nearly every team in the first half of the season, and partially in the second. We've dropped form, yes. We've played more hasty, more tactical, allowing the opponent to control the ball more than we maybe, should, YES. That doesn't mean, we don't and we can't play attractive, and that we don't deserve titles and wins. By the way you are saying, it sounds like we haven't played one good attacking match and our whole season is based on tactical awareness and counter-attacking football, which I personally, don't believe is the whole story. Cheers.

[Tomo 21,733]

It's really annoying how you use exceptions to make your point. so because a few managers used similar tactics once in a bluemoon somehow detracts from the point I was making? Arsene wenger also defended deep against City this season and against dortmund last season, does that also make him a pragmatist who has no appreciation for the quality of football his team plays in big games like Jose as well?

Perhaps I should have used the qualifier, Jose and Rafa are the only two managers shameless and stubborn enough to play defensive football at the top level on a consistent basis. I'm 100 percent certain that those clubs I listed would not tolerate their managers using Jose's tactics in majority of their big matches as often as jose does.

Top clubs set high standards and take performances very seriously, we are the only top club in europe that accepts winning at all cost and sets extremely low standard as far as the overall quality and performances is concerned and without a clear identity.

Fergie doing it wasn't really once in a blue moon, he would do it whenever he feels it's nessesery, he has always been partial to it. I can list a number of examples in the morning but right now im too pissed (birthday).

Of course ideally id love to see us blow a big team out of the water, infact we did do it on Jose's return vs Liverpool and Arsenal (the 2-1 flattered Liverpool big time) but I don't honestly believe this squad is anywhere near complete (one for a greavsie explains it much better than I do).

[DYC. 7,542]

Vintage JT performance. He'll eventually leave some massive boots to fill.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Jamie Carragher just said JT is the best centre half the PL has ever seen. Can't disagree.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

I love John Terry. We would be so FUCKED when he is gone, it wouldn't even be funny.

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

CAPTAIN. LEADER. LEGEND. And yes Arsenal fans, JT knows what he is....a fucking legend!

[Jase 43,479]

He is God.

[LAM09 6,744]

Amazing performance. Captain lead by example.

[Special Juan 27,424]

Past it

[didierforever 7,349]

CAPTAIN

LEADER

LEGEND

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

In 5-15 years time, kids will be becoming up and saying I wanna be the next John Terry.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Absolute legend, not just of Chelsea but a legend of the EPL and football in general. On par with football legends such as Nesta, Pirlo, Ronaldo...etc. Not much more can be said about this brilliant brilliant man except maybe that he's also one of the best skippers in football history.

The love and emotions I have for this man and what he represents of football and Chelsea cannot be put into words

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

In 5-15 years time, kids will be becoming up and saying I wanna be the next John Terry.

Don't they already?

[Blue Armour 4,278]

We know what you are, we know what you are.....Captain, Leader, Legend...that's what you are.

[edetarod 2,155]

i've had a dream now for 5 years of him lifting the premier league trophy with the team behind celebrating

so close

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

God :blue scalf:

[Vytis33 1,144]

The Skipper!!! Truly epic performance from the old boy.