Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Tomo said: Well what if we kept those managers on longer and done lasting damage long term? Like say United with Moyes and LVG, the obsession they have with doing things the "right way" with manager's has set them back years. Giving Scolari, AVB, Jose mark 2 (and you could even argue Carlo) more time would have potentially damaged us in a similar way. There's many ways Roman can improve on how he runs the club, but in my opinion the hire and fire policy he for the most part gets right, especially the fire bit. I hear ya but you could look at it another way. IF those mamagers were fully backed from the start would they have needed to get the sack. Mou MKII went thru 15'16 what Conti is going thru now where he wasn't given any players after we won the league 14'15. Instead of making the team stronger you can just hear the arguments he was given about not needing to buy any more players. It would have been professionally written by some big speach writer and saved on a external HDD to be used again/ DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakozium257 350 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Thank f**k I'm not a fanatic and obsessed when it comes to supporting a sports club because this situation is just a recipe for a mental meltdown. Conte is the first coach in a long eon who made me believe that this club could have a renaissance again. I'm beyond frustrated at how he's been let down that typing this post comes from the feeling of wanting to shout 'FUCK' till my lungs collapse. Sadly, many fans have become apathetic and don't care about making their feelings known, because it's a tragedy if he's held his hands up and given up because of the lack of support. You know it's become hopeless when most are not outraged that f**king Alonso and Moses are still in the start XI. Conte's not dumb, he does know that they're squad player quality, not f**king start XI quality, and yet they are still comfortable and don't have competition for the positions that they play in, and to add insult to injuru, there's no ounce of rumor that we'll bring in reinforcements for those positions this window. Depressing... The club's board/the Russian czar are clearly not ambitious enough and they take him for granted. I wish someone passionate could buy the club from Abramovich and beat City, PSG, Real and the likes at their own game of buying success, because whether you like it or not, the principle nowadays in top club football is 'if you can't beat them, 'join' them' as in you also gotta fucking spend what's required to reach rhe top. Barbara, petre.ispirescu, manpe and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 With the way some players are underperforming and we didnt get all the targets, we definately cant blame Conte and point out he could do better. For what he has avaliable, he did well. Get him quality players and then we will see if he cant get results from top team, he should be sacked, but right now no way. You can only play to a certain level with current lot. Some games might not be watchable at all, but results wise we cant complain. Last season title and this season when we are apparently "shit" we will probably end second. It would be absolutely idiotic to ditch Conte for not achieving and maximizing the outcome of this squad because I think he did realy well considering what we have. The players seem to get on with him so far and he is real gentleman in public, that definately counts big time. Secondly lets say board does sack Conte, who do we bring? IMO only Sarri would be on my list, others have flaws on either side, Tuchel cant defend, Simeone cant attack. I rather stick with Conte then even if we are not the very best. Next summer, Conte should get two top top players and then we shall see. We have found some stability finaly, hopefuly we dont break everything in the summer. 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 13 hours ago, milka said: Again , Again and Again .... Ffs. The board are retrads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 If the Daily Mail say it, we know it's true. Not just a stab in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 "Tuchel is the obvious pick. Young, progressive manager who wants to play attacking football" but doesn't know how to organize a proper defence. Before anyone further bangs the drum about Tuchel, I'd suggest you go watch his Dortmund side defend. Error prone and there's stupid mistakes in every game.The best way to defend is to attack and to keep the ball in your possession,the more you have the ball the more chances of winning the game you have. City's defence is not good either,does it matter? NO.Sent from my SM-N9200 using Tapatalk FabHazard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I like the list except for Simeone anyone but Simeone. Allegri,Enrique and Sarri one of them would be great. Sent from my SM-N9200 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,993 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Reading things like this from Conte just now: Basically saying "must be nice to be backed by your club." Could even take it as a wink and a nudge to our board that we can have this fantastic player who Conte knows well for dirt cheap. Also completely left his future beyond this season up in the air. I think he's 100% gone this summer by his own wish. manpe and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 He's just simply sick as fuck and pissed off, and rightly so, you would be. Your looking on and even seeing Liverpool spunk mass money one one player, then you simply have to ask questions. Irakozium257, quickpassnmove, 11Drogba and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,578 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, Pizy said: Reading things like this from Conte just now: Basically saying "must be nice to be backed by your club." Could even take it as a wink and a nudge to our board that we can have this fantastic player who Conte knows well for dirt cheap. Also completely left his future beyond this season up in the air. I think he's 100% gone this summer by his own wish. 20?! So where are chelsea?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,993 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: 20?! So where are chelsea?! Rummaging through the bargain bin. 11Drogba, xPetrCechx and quickpassnmove 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Well that's him confirming it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 57 minutes ago, Pizy said: Reading things like this from Conte just now: Basically saying "must be nice to be backed by your club." Could even take it as a wink and a nudge to our board that we can have this fantastic player who Conte knows well for dirt cheap. Also completely left his future beyond this season up in the air. I think he's 100% gone this summer by his own wish. What does a nudge and a wink acheieve at this club exactly? It's not like Roman is watching these press conferences anfd thinking, 'Antonio is right, he wants me to sign Alexis. Alexis he will have'. The board does what it wants bar none. We have seen this year after year. manpe and Pizy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 The shortlist includes Allegri and Sarri...Two managers with different styles....This is what's wrong with the board...They do not have a clear philosophy or vision like barcelona and other top teams...IMO we should keep conte unless we bring an attacking coach...No point in appointing pragmatic managers like simeone or allegri ...We should continue with conte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 What would be the point of Allegri? He plays basically the same type of football as Conte and since he won't get any backing from the board we will still have Moses and Alonso as our wingbacks... King11Didier and quickpassnmove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, Tautvix said: Well that's him confirming it. he is right, sanchez was one of the targets he gave to the board. and he goes to city for 20M? ridicolous. abram doesn't deserve this coach xPetrCechx and 11Drogba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mana said: Look what Chelsea4 said is a bit extreme comparing us to WBA, but don't turn a blind eye on everything else he has said. We ARE playing average football. There is ZERO creativity when Hazard and Fab are off or not in their game. 3 goalless draws in 6, while being completely wasteful in the last 4/6 games is something not be brushed at. Conte has to change things up as the board sadly isn't backing him. We are not sitting comfortably 3rd, we have Barca coming and the Emirates leg. I've barely been watching matches this season. If Chelsea swap managers and fail to improve the squad with top players, what the hell is the point of watching next season? Hilarious. Hire a new CEO aimed at global marketing and keep rummaging the bargain bin. Who the fuck is going to watch this unfold and continue to have interest in CFC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Another week, another talk about Conte's future in the presser... Want Conte to stay but right now, am absolutely sick and tired to hear the media and/or him talk about his future every single week. What good does this uncertainty do for mood among the fans or the players? Would they even be motivated if they know the manager is not gonna be here next season? If Conte really wants to go, he should just announce it now. If the board don't want to back him and have no issues letting him go, they should also just announce. Letting this rumble does no one any favors whatsoever. LAM09 and King11Didier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Antonio8 said: he is right, sanchez was one of the targets he gave to the board. and he goes to city for 20M? ridicolous. abram doesn't deserve this coach And what do you say to those who think that Sarri or Allegri would come to Chelsea next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 16 hours ago, Unionjack said: I hear ya but you could look at it another way. IF those mamagers were fully backed from the start would they have needed to get the sack. Mou MKII went thru 15'16 what Conti is going thru now where he wasn't given any players after we won the league 14'15. Instead of making the team stronger you can just hear the arguments he was given about not needing to buy any more players. It would have been professionally written by some big speach writer and saved on a external HDD to be used again/ Mourinho in that summer asked for Begovic, Falcao and Pedro and got them. Yes he didn't get Stones and Pogba but that isn't an excuse to be one point from relegation at Christmas. The transfer window can be used as an excuse for Conte to a point but the 15/16 disaster was all Mourinho's doing. 13 hours ago, Irakozium257 said: Sadly, many fans have become apathetic and don't care about making their feelings known, because it's a tragedy if he's held his hands up and given up because of the lack of support. If it was up to the average Chelsea fan Conte wouldn't have been appointed in the first place!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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