petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 11 hours ago, Jype said: Bakayoko and Rüdiger are done, yes. Lukaku however is an entirely different scenario and I wouldn't put it in the same category as those two. There's nothing to suggest it's anywhere near completion and Everton are playing some serious hardball with the transfer negotiations whereas those other two are all done and dusted, just waiting for official confirmations from the club. I do believe Lukaku will eventually end up joining, but it's not 100% yet and in football things can change very quickly so there can still be some twists and turns coming up in this saga. If Lukaku transfer were to fail, the club'd be fucked because Costa leaving is already set in stone, Morata is going to Manchester and I'm not quite convinced about Belotti just yet. Everton have already spent like they never did before and Rooney is set to join by the end of the week too. Sandro Ramirez and Rooney that's two forwards already and Everton today have made a 40m offer for Benfica's Raul Jimenez. Ok it's just a bid for now but it shows Everton are interested into bringing another centre forward. Don't you think Lukaku, Rooney and Sandro would be enough if Lukaku was to stay there? Everton are in no position to have 4 quality forwards in their squad knowing they are playing a one centre forwards tactics. One has to make room and that's 100% Lukaku if you ask me. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 Barkley is off too. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 14 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said: Does not necessarily have to be made official to confirm the obvious. There is plenty of solid sources for me to believe 100% that Rudiger, Bakayoko and Lukaku are already Chelsea players. And Alex Sandro to some extent although it'll take time but I'm sure he'll end up as a Chelsea player in the end. It's just that some clubs need to secure their replacements before letting players go. And I truly believe that these 5 players are not the only ones we're looking at and we're going to be linked with at least one or two more players in the coming weeks (centre back and maybe another attacker). Only see Rudgier as being agreed. Lukaku have seen nothing to suggest otherwise. And Bakayako has been dead in the water for a while. As to per Alex Sandro, another dead in the water. So apart from a free transfer all I can see is Rudgier...... Tautvix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 hour ago, petre.ispirescu said: Everton have already spent like they never did before and Rooney is set to join by the end of the week too. Sandro Ramirez and Rooney that's two forwards already and Everton today have made a 40m offer for Benfica's Raul Jimenez. Ok it's just a bid for now but it shows Everton are interested into bringing another centre forward. Don't you think Lukaku, Rooney and Sandro would be enough if Lukaku was to stay there? Everton are in no position to have 4 quality forwards in their squad knowing they are playing a one centre forwards tactics. One has to make room and that's 100% Lukaku if you ask me. Everton with their new billionaire shareholder Moshiri and increased income from commercial deals can afford to spend money like they never did before, their incoming transfers have got nothing to do with the money from potential sale of Lukaku. I did say I believe he will eventually join and Everton getting replacements is a step in the right direction towards Lukaku leaving but to suggest it's already completed behind the scenes and only waiting for confirmation is just deluded. The only agreement re: Lukaku I would think to be sorted out is personal terms because it's clear that he wants to return so sorting out a contract with the player won't be a problem. Lukaku is almost 100% sure to leave but it doesn't necessarily have to be for Chelsea if the club fail to stump up enough money. It's well known that Mino Raiola likes to deal with Manchester United nowadays so if the transfer negotiations between Everton and Chelsea drag on for too long I'm sure Raiola will start to make other arrangements as a plan B so he might still easily end up elsewhere too. And before you say United are already getting Morata and don't need Lukaku, that doesn't mean shit. Morata is the perfect striker to play support in a two man setup so they could easily be delpoyed at the same time if by some miracle Lukaku ended up there too. Stranger things have happened and before I see reports of Chelsea actually agreeing a fee with Everton the transfer is still not a sure thing and anything is still possible. If you really believe it's done and dusted, I'll give you a chance to make free money. Lukaku has 1/2 odds (1.50 EU) to complete a transfer to Chelsea. Bet everything you have on that and get 50% value for free, easy. Btw, if it was as close as you claim the betting markets for the transfer would already be closed like they are for Bakayoko and Rüdiger. Johnnyeye and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 If this all true regarding Lukaku and what's happening with transfers he will walk before a ball is kicked, I'm telling you. Don't be surprised if the news breaks that Conte has walked. Tautvix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 The man is enjoying his holiday zero fucks given about Lukaku WHAT A MAN. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said: The man is enjoying his holiday zero fucks given about Lukaku WHAT A MAN. He should be allowed to enjoy a holiday knowing the board can actually get him the targets he needs, instead it seems that it's going very pear shaped and it's fuck all to do with Antonio. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Special Juan said: If this all true regarding Lukaku and what's happening with transfers he will walk before a ball is kicked, I'm telling you. Don't be surprised if the news breaks that Conte has walked. Well I have been saying this for a while and people label me as a moaner. The club continues to do the same shenanigans from last summer. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 On 7/4/2017 at 5:01 PM, petre.ispirescu said: Does not necessarily have to be made official to confirm the obvious. There is plenty of solid sources for me to believe 100% that Rudiger, Bakayoko and Lukaku are already Chelsea players. And Alex Sandro to some extent although it'll take time but I'm sure he'll end up as a Chelsea player in the end. It's just that some clubs need to secure their replacements before letting players go. And I truly believe that these 5 players are not the only ones we're looking at and we're going to be linked with at least one or two more players in the coming weeks (centre back and maybe another attacker). Lukaku already a Chelsea player? Tautvix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnald 256 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 He's gone if Lukaku joins Mourinho and United. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Maybe gone off his tits on champagne and celebration. simonez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Happens all the time though! Every season it seems a manager make targets and get sod all from it in the end. Can't blame him if does walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnald 256 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, Leif said: Maybe gone off his tits on champagne and celebration. He wants Rom himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Conte wants Belotti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: Conte wants Belotti If this is the case then that's where the conflict comes in. The board must do everything to get the targets of the manager, not the other way around. If Lukaku is a board signing and Conte doesn't want him then Conte may as well go now. xPetrCechx and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnald 256 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, Special Juan said: If this is the case then that's where the conflict comes in. The board must do everything to get the targets of the manager, not the other way around. If Lukaku is a board signing and Conte doesn't want him then Conte may as well go now. I've already placed my bets on him leaving. We are not after Belotti and look likely to miss out on Lukaku now. He isn't going to be cool with this. This is the exact same problem he encountered at Juventus so, he will leave. Hurts to say but I'm pretty sure it's inevitable now. Mourinho has the last laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guddy6969 201 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, Dahnald said: I've already placed my bets on him leaving. We are not after Belotti and look likely to miss out on Lukaku now. He isn't going to be cool with this. This is the exact same problem he encountered at Juventus so, he will leave. Hurts to say but I'm pretty sure it's inevitable now. Mourinho has the last laugh. Don't be ridiculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 29 minutes ago, Special Juan said: If this is the case then that's where the conflict comes in. The board must do everything to get the targets of the manager, not the other way around. If Lukaku is a board signing and Conte doesn't want him then Conte may as well go now. Manager's should never get COMPLETE control. Barbara and Peace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 17 minutes ago, Tomo said: Manager's should never get COMPLETE control. Yes managers can make silly decisions when they have full control, but who in our board has better or similar level football knowledge and judgement than our managers. No one. We will always use the money worse than Bayern, Juve and other clubs with these people in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Just now, 11Drogba said: Yes managers can make silly decisions when they have full control, but who in our board has better or similar level football knowledge and judgement than our manager. No one. We will always use the money worse than Bayern, Juve and other clubs with these people in charge. These same incompetent members that decided on the likes of Courtois, Hazard and De Bruyne for a combined £49m? Ironically it was giving a manager more power than he should have got that lost us the latter. The only manager that definitely got total control was Fergie, and while his success on the pitch was unprecedented his flop:good signing ratio was well to high, especially in his later years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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