Milan 17,957 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,909 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Gilvorak said: Sanchez "carried" Arsenal to outside the Top 4 until Ozil's return. They were sixth while Ozil was out injured and ended up finishing 3rd with him back. This year they're first in the League with Ozil fit and Sanchez out. Ozil's impact on games transcends numbers. He's their best player. By the way Ozil has assisted twice against City, scored against Bayern, assisted the equaliser against Tottenham & scored/assisted against United. The idea he's a flat-track bully is absurd. He's played far better in big games this season than Sanchez did last year who regularly went missing in all but 1. If a team is underperforming or not at their best, Sanchez (like Hazard was for us many times last season) can take the match over and singlehandedly dominate to secure 3 points. Admittedly, I haven't watched much of him this season due to us being so shit and not being in the mood to watch anyone else, but I've closely watched/admired Özil for years. He isn't that sort of player. If both are fully fit I'd be significantly more worried about Sanchez than Özil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
changingman2000 35 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 If we win this, I will be fucking astounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Ozil is more naturally talented than Sanchez, that's undeniable. People are blinded by goals too much, saying Sanchez is better than Ozil is like saying Sanchez is better than Hazard IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 56 minutes ago, The Skipper said: Ozil is more naturally talented than Sanchez, that's undeniable. People are blinded by goals too much, saying Sanchez is better than Izik is like saying Sanchez is better than Hazard IMO. Izik? Auto-correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,052 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Ozil is more naturally talented than Sanchez, that's undeniable. People are blinded by goals too much, saying Sanchez is better than Izik is like saying Sanchez is better than Hazard IMO. People like players who give their all (applies to quite a few South Americans). Talent isn't the be all and end all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizacar 93 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Hazard has to score. Even torres wasnt this barren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 7 hours ago, LAM09 said: People like players who give their all (applies to quite a few South Americans). Talent isn't the be all and end all. Ozil applies his talent very well though. An on form Ozil is much more beneficial to a team that an on form Alexis simply because he truly elevates his team mates level of play. Alexis works hard but Ozil hasn't been a liability to his team, he works fairly hard as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,909 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 17 minutes ago, The Skipper said: Ozil applies his talent very well though. An on form Ozil is much more beneficial to a team that an on form Alexis simply because he truly elevates his team mates level of play. Alexis works hard but Ozil hasn't been a liability to his team, he works fairly hard as well. Eh? That was Özil's biggest criticism at Arsenal until this season. He was a huge liability. He was constantly called lazy, went missing in every big game, didn't track back and help his teammates etc. I remember in our 6-0 specifically he was laughed at by everyone because he was so pathetic. There were even a TalkSport segment I recall where the question was asked if Eriksen was the much better buy for Spuds than Özil was for Arse. I think the fact that Sanchez has been injured for a while is causing people's memory to grow fuzzy. He was basically unplayable for much of last season (except when he played Chelsea ). I recall stating like a year ago that he was truly the perfect Mourinho player. Works tirelessly, powerful, pacey, and scores goals from anywhere on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 We can beat Arsenal even if we are 20th and they 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 58 minutes ago, Pizy said: Eh? That was Özil's biggest criticism at Arsenal until this season. He was a huge liability. He was constantly called lazy, went missing in every big game, didn't track back and help his teammates etc. I remember in our 6-0 specifically he was laughed at by everyone because he was so pathetic. There were even a TalkSport segment I recall where the question was asked if Eriksen was the much better buy for Spuds than Özil was for Arse. I think the fact that Sanchez has been injured for a while is causing people's memory to grow fuzzy. He was basically unplayable for much of last season (except when he played Chelsea ). I recall stating like a year ago that he was truly the perfect Mourinho player. Works tirelessly, powerful, pacey, and scores goals from anywhere on the pitch. Ozil was not playing in that game. I think you are getting mixed up with the 2-0 game last season where he looked out of his depth and was slated by fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Happily take a draw..maybe not if we're the ones leading however. Just be nice not to lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,909 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 19 minutes ago, Stats said: Ozil was not playing in that game. I think you are getting mixed up with the 2-0 game last season where he looked out of his depth and was slated by fans. Okay, yeah. I remember him being bullied off the ball with ease and essentially just giving up. His own supporters were slating him for being a pussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,052 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 People like players who give their all (applies to quite a few South Americans). Talent isn't the be all and end all. Ozil applies his talent very well though. An on form Ozil is much more beneficial to a team that an on form Alexis simply because he truly elevates his team mates level of play. Alexis works hard but Ozil hasn't been a liability to his team, he works fairly hard as well. He was missing for large parts of last season and quite a few Arsenal fans weren't against the fact of selling him. If things aren't going well, he's normally absent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 15 hours ago, changingman2000 said: If we win this, I will be fucking astounded.What does she look like lol?Get the hulk gel ready then ,Cfc to give them the blues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Just now, Stats said: Right now he is. On form Sanchez I say. Ozil has only really stepped up this season while Sanchez made an impact in his first season. Both are 2 quality players though. Ozil is probably the best number 10 in the world. There is no debate comparing both Ozil and Sanchez, if I were to have one it would be Ozil because he makes everyone else around him better. Sanchez adapted better perhaps and scores more goals but Ozil is fundamental to Arsenal where as they can cope a bit better without Sanchez due to having more wide players like Walcott, Campbell, Oxlade-Chamberlain. Just now, Stats said: Real binned Ozil too though... Ancelloti never wanted him so you can basically say the same thing. Real binned Ozil because they could get over 40M for him to try and even their books for buying Bale, the fact he was concerned about his role in their team and also with them playing 4-3-3 and 4-4-2 Ozil doesn't particularly fit that tactics because he is a pure 10. The same happened with Di Maria when they signed James, they sold him to balance their books because they knew they would get a silly fee for him and he wanted to go so he could definitely play. Imagine if Real had kept Ozil though wow. Benzema Ronaldo-Ozil-Bale Kroos-Modric Back to Chelsea-Arsenal anyway lol, I generally hope Costa starts, as well as Hazard but if he is not 110% would like to see Kenedy thrown in there. I think we will win this one tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Back to Chelsea-Arsenal anyway lol, I generally hope Costa starts, as well as Hazard but if he is not 110% would like to see Kenedy thrown in there. I think we will win this one tbf. Man I hope you're right. With City currently losing things aren't looking too good at the top if we get beat. On the other hand a couple of quick goals for City tonight and a Blues win tomorrow puts everything it a much better light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 They should be pumped for this. Great opportunity to make a statement as true title contenders and benifit from City dropping points. But Chelsea are notorious party poopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 hours ago, DYC. said: They should pumped for this. Great opportunity to make a statement as true title contenders and benifit from City dropping points. But Chelsea are notorious party poopers. Pumped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Chance to move up a place if we win!be nice to get out of 14th.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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