Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 This may sound a stupid question but what the hell did they hope to achieve by killing innocent people? For all they knew they could, and maybe did kill Muslims as well as Christians and other nationalities from around the world. To me this is just like poking a lion in the ribs, because they will surely pay for this actrocity. France, America and England will retaliate and very soon.They will have turned the world against themselves. Already France has retaliated and this is only the start. And now the innocent refugees trying to get away from these murdering scum will all be looked at as potential terrorists. Lets just pray that they never get their hands on atomic weapons because that would mean the end of us all. They (ISIS) need to be eradicated........and quickly.They achieve fear, fear leads to anger and knee jerk reactions - with people wrongly blaming innocent followers of a faith that has been incorrectly portrayed in the media. This leads to stupid acts against the 'terrorists' which in turn kills more innocent people. This then gives credence to the bullshit spouted by the extremists and maybe radicalises a few more people, hell bent on revenge. It's a cycle that has been repeated over and over again during humanity ad infinteum. There's too much ignorance on both sides and only education can fix this - bombing for peace is an oxymoron. The 'terrorists' know that each action they take will convert more followers - rightly or wrongly, that is their only recruitment tactic available. France dropping 20 bombs will do nothing other than play into their hands as more innocent people are caught up in the situation Truly a shocking weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I think the killings in Paris were not reprisals for western government actions in the Middle East. ISIS is not a national liberation movement. It has no demands that can be negotiated over the table. It wants to kill people like you and me simply because we live a free, liberated and modern way of life, and our religion is predominantly Christian. It regards all of this as sin beyond measure.See the extract from their statement around the killings. They are not a political group, they are an Islamic cult, and we hold no responsibility for these kind of beliefs."In a blessed battle whose causes of success were enabled by Allah, a group of believers from the soldiers of the Caliphate (may Allah strengthen and support it) set out targeting the capital of prostitution and vice, the lead carrier of the cross in Europe — Paris. This group of believers were youth who divorced the worldly life and advanced towards their enemy hoping to be killed for Allah's sake, doing so in support of His religion, His Prophet (blessing and peace be upon him), and His allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kaplan- 410 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 The thing is, that no matter how vain it sounds, other countries can't just take everybody in that needs help. Yeah you wish you can help all those in need but the sad reality is that that's not possible. A big issue of mine is that the governments of the countries accepting these refugees haven't taken into consideration the opinion of their citizens. The government just did it themselves. Maybe they should let the people vote it out if they want to accept refugees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/france-drops-20-bombs-islamic-6838318#ICID=FB_mirror_maindoesn´t suprise me at all, expected, it will only make it worse than it is i´m afraid, this nightmare won´t end anytime soon... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-bombers-are-britain-now-6230762#rlabs=3%20rt$category%20p$2damn , guys whatch over yourselves and your loved ones, be very careful, i pray to God nothing horrible happens... please no more bloodshed Fark this world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 The thing is, that no matter how vain it sounds, other countries can't just take everybody in that needs help. Yeah you wish you can help all those in need but the sad reality is that that's not possible.A big issue of mine is that the governments of the countries accepting these refugees haven't taken into consideration the opinion of their citizens. The government just did it themselves. Maybe they should let the people vote it out if they want to accept refugees.Fucking WORD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 http://www.mirror.co...=FB_mirror_main doesn´t suprise me at all, expected, it will only make it worse than it is i´m afraid, this nightmare won´t end anytime soon...Fuck yeah! I hope allies bomb the shit out of those crazy subhumans. Time to put those nukes to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-bombers-are-britain-now-6230762#rlabs=3%20rt$category%20p$2damn , guys whatch over yourselves and your loved ones, be very careful, i pray to God nothing horrible happens... please no more bloodshed Fark this world That was from August mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 That was from August mateDoesn't make it less likely, August wasn't a decade ago. Paris could be the first of many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 That was from August mateSorry. didn´t see the date, this article poped out somewhere and i started freaking out, i have lot´s of family and friends in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Fuck yeah! I hope allies bomb the shit out of those crazy subhumans. Time to put those nukes to use.I admit i want justice for what happened as much as anyone else, but how many more innocent lives must be lost in all this ? We can call it collateral damage but fark this, it´s just a nightmare for both innocent parties, just too much blood being shed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Doesn't make it less likely, August wasn't a decade ago. Paris could be the first of many.Sure the security, the online observations has kind of heighten since the. Plus the attacks would make for a more aggressive approach to that too.Better to pinpoint that out and not cause any distress or fear. That isn't what is needed more of atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I admit i want justice for what happened as much as anyone else, but how many more innocent lives must be lost in all this ? We can call it collateral damage but fark this, it´s just a nightmare for both innocent parties, just too much blood being shed... Do you think all of this can reach a peaceful conclusion? I don't, you can only do that with rational people. It's either us or them. It seems they haven't been bombed enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Not sure if I missed this, but a lot of pro gun people are saying this is why people should carry guns. What do you all think about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Not sure if I missed this, but a lot of pro gun people are saying this is why people should carry guns. What do you all think about this?Don't agree. Regular peace loving citizens carrying guns won't do anything to prevent events like this, instead it will only increase domestic violence like in USA. Not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Schrute 114 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 What is the point of dropping bombs again? We know it is useless. If we really want to destroy ISIS, let's go on the ground. We won't, so let's get out of there. Those bombs will only generate revenge and more deads. The truth is we are spending so much money and ressources on foreign wars that we are no longer able to protect our own territory. And I just wanted to thank peoples from your respective countries for showing so much solidarity. This is really touching, particularly from peoples that constantly live with terrorism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobematabryant 400 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 People "care more" about Paris because it hit a lot closer to home then the other incidents you mentioned.Also Paris isn't a warzone nor does it have a history of these type of events. People simply weren't expecting this kind violence so close to their doorstep.No one in West-Europe expects to get gunned down while having a drink with some friends in a cafe or going to a concert and getting executed 1 by 1 or getting blown up while going to a football match.A lot of people are simply in shock and feel the need to do something even if it's just changing their facebook image background to a french flag.I mean my mom walked in the morning after the paris killings and asked me " you heared what happened in Paris? " I said "yeah, it's crazy" She then said with a terrified look on her face " That happened only 3 hours from here " She kept looking at me for a few seconds and walked out of the room.People are shocked because they realize if it could happen in Paris it could happen everywhere.Well you're a French Belgian so it makes sense for you. For majority of the people in the world, this isn't "home" to everyone. The issue with everyone changing profile pictures on Facebook, is why wasn't there a feature of changing your PP to a Turkish flag when the Ankara bombings took place for example. Or the Russian plane crash? Why weren't buildings lighting up Russian flags?There needs to be some consistency and balance in the reporting. You can't be reporting the Paris Bombing if you are not even gonna mention a second of the Beirut bombing. Both huge tragedies. At least Aljazeera are good at professional reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Just heard the news that Turkey managed to prevent a large-scale attack in Istanbul that was planned on the same day as Paris attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Do you think all of this can reach a peaceful conclusion? I don't, you can only do that with rational people. It's either us or them. It seems they haven't been bombed enough.I agree that there won´t be a peaceful resolution anytime soon, i do wish there was, but that´s living in denial and in fact we can´t rationalize with those maniacs, we value life unlike them, but does nuking them stop them from acting or growing again ? Many may die, but others will follow after, it will keep on going, they will never change their beliefs and how they don´t value human life because of blind faith, that´s a fact and they will keep on performing these atrocities unless they are all wiped off the face of the Earth or suddently change their beliefs, but that will never happen. It´s a endless war and we innocent people are like cattle in the middle of it, sorry for using this expression. It´s just a big shame the state of the world we live in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 What is the point of dropping bombs again? We know it is useless. If we really want to destroy ISIS, let's go on the ground. We won't, so let's get out of there. Those bombs will only generate revenge and more deads. The truth is we are spending so much money and ressources on foreign wars that we are no longer able to protect our own territory. And I just wanted to thank peoples from your respective countries for showing so much solidarity. This is really touching, particularly from peoples that constantly live with terrorism. I hope that you and other french members of Talk Chelsea are safe and your families and friends are too, the same aplies to the other innocent citizens in France who are going trough this ordeal, cheers and stay strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Russian, Lebanese and French flags on the Great Pyramid.RIP to all those that have passed. Thoughts are out to those that are affected with each death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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