lucio 5,418 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 That is what everything is always about! That is the reason why Religion was started in the first place a few thousand years ago, people wanted power to control the masses, it still baffles me how in 2015 people still believe in these man made organisations that people call religion!humans have had religion , from about 300,000 years ago. ritualistic behaviour is natural, and has a part in our psychology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 US is possibly funding ISIS. Think about it: they fund ISIS and they terrorize and give a bad name to the Islamic community. This gives US a reason to invade a country again just like they did with Libya, Iraq etc. What is their goal? Power and money, it's simple.Are you fucking kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 humans have had religion , from about 300,000 years ago. ritualistic behaviour is natural, and has a part in our psychology.yes in ancient times they believed in that sort of stuff because they didnt have any other explanation for things like rain and wind, but when talking about the religions we know today they were started by people who wanted power, we know so much more about the world now, which is why i find it so bizarre that people still believe this stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Sicarius 610 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 #refugeeswelcome ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Are you fucking kidding me?You have your own beliefs and I have mine. It will be too tiresome to explain everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 yes in ancient times they believed in that sort of stuff because they didnt have any other explanation for things like rain and wind, but when talking about the religions we know today they were started by people who wanted power, we know so much more about the world now, which is why i find it so bizarre that people still believe this stuffit is strange , even plenty of scientists working on the big bang analysis , have religious ideas. alot of people just don't accept the universe is random and meaningless, myself included.i'm not sure about the people who started religions, didn't the buddha give up everything , to wander and teach? I think these things have given us alot of culture, monuments ect, and are to be cherished.but lots of people use it for evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 You have your own beliefs and I have mine. It will be too tiresome to explain everything.Just cause it's your belief doesn't mean it can't be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herzogian 148 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 humans have had religion , from about 300,000 years ago. ritualistic behaviour is natural, and has a part in our psychology.Don't wanna be a pedantic a-hole but homo sapien first appeared 200000 years ago.Know your prehistoric history young padawan.Concerning religion, you have to make a difference between spirituality (ritualistic behaviour)religion and organised religion.The last one came into being after the neolithic revolution 10000 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Just cause it's your belief doesn't mean it can't be wrong.So what you believe has to be right and what I believe has to be wrong right? You're just offended just because you're American. Quote this post all you want, explaining things to you will probably get nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Don't wanna be a pedantic a-hole but homo sapien first appeared 200000 years ago.Know your prehistoric history young padawan.Concerning religion, you have to make a difference between spirituality, religion and organised religion.The last one came into being after the neolithic revolution 10000 years ago.archaic modern humans have been around since 500,000, and are not limited to just sapiens , they say , there is some evidence for ritualism before anatomically modern humans emerged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 yes in ancient times they believed in that sort of stuff because they didnt have any other explanation for things like rain and wind, but when talking about the religions we know today they were started by people who wanted power, we know so much more about the world now, which is why i find it so bizarre that people still believe this stuffThe Charles Darwin theory has many flaws. It has absolutely no proof whatsoever. If believing in a higher being is ridiculous, then how ridiculous is believing that we were apes once and that the universe came to be out of absolutely nothing? Religion and power are too different topics in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Gatwick Airport evacuated after 'suspicious' French man arrested with firearmhttp://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/619392/Gatwick-Airport-evacuated-Paris-terror-attacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The Richard Dawkins theory has many flaws. It has absolutely no proof whatsoever. If believing in a higher being is ridiculous, then how ridiculous is believing that we were apes once and that the universe came to be out of absolutely nothing? Religion and power are too different topics in my opinion.im studying human evolution right now , the evidence is pretty poor, but still conclusive imo.but i don't see religion as a problem. just greed and industrialism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 im studying human evolution right now , the evidence is pretty poor, but still conclusive imo.but i don't see religion as a problem. just greed and industrialism. Meant Charles Darwin by the way. I was watching too many Richard Dawkins videos lately, got the two mixed up because he is one of the biggest evolutiontheory writers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Do you think that 9/11 was an inside job? I do, to be fair. ISIS and their followers are braindead scum but the hierarchy of this organization may get funded by the US. Let's talk about the tragic even that is 9/11. In my opinion it was an inside job for various reasons but let's not get into those. After 9/11 what happened? They invaded Iraq for no reason they did not even have weapons of mass destruction but they could use the 9/11 excuse to destroy Iraq and gain everything that country has to offer for themselves.I see the creation of ISIS as a similar situation.Well if this is Usa plan, Russia have delayed it by getting involved in Syria. It won't be easy. Someone showed me this map of Russian and Iranian supply of oil to Europe through Syria and how Europe want Saudi Arabia to be their new suppliers to weaken Russia but Assad is a Russian ally like Libyas Ghadafi so he rejected their plan in 2010/2011 and suddenly civil war starts in Syria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MefiX19 1,092 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 #refugeeswelcome ?This is why i don't want refugees. Who knows how many refugees are terrorists of ISIS and other organisations? And ofc. refugees gonna get money for doing nothing! They don't wanna work only get money. To that i can add all European girls who was raped. AND from now muslim poppulation in Europe gonna grow very, very fast, jus imagine:1 men have 2-3 wifes and he have 6-8 children with every wife so that is about 20 childrens who ofc. gonna get paid from that country budget.Menwhile European men gonna have 1 wife and 2-3 childrens so that is 1 Europien to 6 Muslims.Now you can call me racist and nazi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The Charles Darwin theory has many flaws. It has absolutely no proof whatsoever. If believing in a higher being is ridiculous, then how ridiculous is believing that we were apes once and that the universe came to be out of absolutely nothing? Religion and power are too different topics in my opinion.I am not talking about believing in a higher being i am talking about Religion itself, i find it ridiculous how people believe in a religion, that was created by people who knew a lot less about the planet then we do today, for me there is no logic at all to live my life by how people who knew less than i do think i should live.The Quaran and Bible for example have so many contradictions its laughable, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I am not talking about believing in a higher being i am talking about Religion itself, i find it ridiculous how people believe in a religion, that was created by people who knew a lot less about the planet then we do today, for me there is no logic at all to live my life by how people who knew less than i do think i should live.The Quaran and Bible for example have so many contradictions its laughableNothing is certain. Charles Darwins theory is just a theory there is absolutely no proof of it, I respect what you believe but these kind of discussions on this page is useless imo. So I'll end this discussion on here because we are going out of the Paris Massacre topic. If you want to discuss about these kind of things pm me I'll be happy to discuss things with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 US Airstrike has killed IS Libya leader, according to BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 What do you think they should do? Surely they have to do something. Who's to say ISIS won't hit London in a month. Rome in 2 months?But that doesn't mean taking away people's civil liberties as @Chuolo rightfully pointed out. They'll try to convince us that we're living everyday in abject fear of terrorism, when that's just not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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