hamad138 190 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 My friend says bus parking is Chelsea DNA like Barcelona have Possesion DNA. He says its the identity of the club, do u agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Don't tell me you don't remember? I said Mou should drop Cahill and Ivanovic for Zouma and Luis and you said he won't because he has his favourites. I said I don't buy it, claiming he's flexible.Two huge games and no Cahill. Now it's just Ivanovic who's left.I seriously don't recall it at all. When was that?To be fair, it took him until that 5-3 debacle to drop Cahill. Had the result been different, doubt he would have done it. As for Ivanovic, well, not expecting that change any time soon. Has made so errors this season and yet not once dropped to the bench for an extended period of time. Moreover, Mourinho likes to have 3 tall defenders or CBs in the back 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I asked for a big away match where we attacked well and defended well... You gave an example and I explained how we didn't defend so well. How is that being picky?You didn't really point that out...but never mind.It was only the first half or first 25-30 minutes or so. Otherwise, we pretty much controlled the game both offensively and defensively. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 31, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 31, 2015 Jose 2015: "We don't do draws. I will rather lose chasing a win than settle for a draw" Wasn't he speaking about a specific match when he said that? Because that would be one of the stupidest things to say if he was talking in general. I certainly wouldn't want a manager who acts like that. The only generalized "philosophy" a manager should have is that "I will always try my best to do what is in the best interest of the club within the laws and regulations of the game." Barbara, RoyalBlues, Madmax and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It was only the first half or first 25-30 minutes or so. Otherwise, we pretty much controlled the game both offensively and defensively.We were definitely not controlled defensively/offensively for the last 10 minutes either. Constantly giving the ball away and allowing the opposition into good shooting opportunities (Gerrard's shot that led to Cahill's handball) doesn't scream good defending to me. So you could argue it was up to 40 minutes of lack of control and balance which is a pretty big proportion of the game. Wasn't he speaking about a specific match when he said that? Because that would be one of the stupidest things to say if he was talking in general. I certainly wouldn't want a manager who acts like that. The only generalized "philosophy" a manager should have is that "I will always try my best to do what is in the best interest of the club within the laws and regulations of the game."I assume it's in reference to this: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-chelsea-would-lose-4734062 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! supporter 3,088 Posted January 31, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Jose Mourinho is simply the coach most intelligent in the world I love Him, Chelsea also loves him, CHELSEA AND MOURINHO are THE SAME.Today we did a very intelligent game, it is easy to order another coach, but I feel safe with Jose near us.Regarding the young players .... Zouma is 100% Jose Mourinho`s player. Thanks JoseWe are where we deserve because of Jose.I'd rather die like Mourinho, than live like Pellegrino and others Cheap philosophers.I just feel that Jose is losing his smile slowly for unjust attacks. I think he feels misunderstood now. Jose arrived at Chelsea when we were fighting to get into Champions League and playing the Europa League. We are now fighting for ALL and ALL EUROPE fears usFor me Jose is my leader and my compass:Where Jose goes, I go... I hope your comments.Regards to ALL.Mourinho's commands we followed him Chelsea we are ALL!Chelsea have to be TOGETHER!CHELSEA together we are more stronger! * This comment is not an attack on any member of the forum. It's just an appeal to be all BLUES TOGETHER. I apologize if anyone is offended with my message, but I only want to see the Chelsea strong and together.* Barbara hello friend, I just saw your message now because I've been working after the match. Sorry for not answer you before. Regards. Edited January 31, 2015 by supporter stroey, RoyalBlues, Madmax and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 We were definitely not controlled defensively/offensively for the last 10 minutes either. Constantly giving the ball away and allowing the opposition into good shooting opportunities (Gerrard's shot that led to Cahill's hand ball) doesn't scream good defending to me. So you could argue it was up to 40 minutes of lack of control and balance which is a pretty big proportion of the game.Shooting opportunities but were any of them really dangerous (apart from the Gerrard one)? Controlling the game is more than just keeping the ball. It can also come without having the ball. Bluelsthecolour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I seriously don't recall it at all. When was that?To be fair, it took him until that 5-3 debacle to drop Cahill. Had the result been different, doubt he would have done it. As for Ivanovic, well, not expecting that change any time soon. Has made so errors this season and yet not once dropped to the bench for an extended period of time. Moreover, Mourinho likes to have 3 tall defenders or CBs in the back 4.It couldn't have been more than two weeks ago, don't remember. So it was after the Spurs game.He does like tall defenders but I have hope. Superior quality should trump all preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 That's just my opinion , an opinion the owner of the club also shares. No need to get defensive like a little bitch. If you like the way we played in the 2nd half, that's fine by me. Let's pretend we never play that way and it's only an oddity or anomaly because Costa and Fabregas were not there. Those two were there at the Etihad and what happened exactly? We played like dinosaurs, defending for 90 mins, like a pub side. The investment isn't matching the football. If we don't win the league or CL this season, he'll be gone, whether you like it or not.I don't think the way we played in the second half is a consequence of the manager, it comes down to not having any real way to inject pace to change the game. If you are gonna place blame on the manager it would come in the first leg against Liverpool where we sat deep and never threatened in the second half(we couldn't connect any passes) that result forced us into having to play a crucial game on Tuesday. The guys were tired today anyone who has watched more than 5 football matches could see that. kellzfresh, commilin and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It couldn't have been more than two weeks ago, don't remember. So it was after the Spurs game.He does like tall defenders but I have hope. Superior quality should trump all preferences.Only two weeks ago? OMG! I seriously don't remember it all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Shooting opportunities but were any of them really dangerous (apart from the Gerrard one)? Controlling the game is more than just keeping the ball. It can also come without having the ball. Not that I can remember but allowing even one dangerous opportunity in the last few minutes (against that awful Pool side) is one too many. I agree that you can definitely control the game without possession but that tends to entail having a good defensive shape and looking like not conceding. In the last part of the game I remember us giving the ball away in dangerous positions and we were trying but failing to get out of our own half. Lucky that Liverpool were playing so badly and even then we should have conceded a penalty. If that Liverpool game is the only example of a big away game where you could argue that we had control and attacking/defensive balance (at times) then that does highlight my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Calling the COC semis against Liverpool an impressive performance is a massive overstatement. They outplayed us especially in that first half, we ended the game strongly but we didn't score a single goal from open play in over 200 minutes.Again, I'm struggling to think of a complete 90 minute performance we've had in the big games this season. Even the 3-0 against Spurs was extremely fortunate considering they thoroughly dominated us in the opening 15-20 minutes before crumbling in typical Tottenham fashion. Bosnian Blue and edetarod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I will give Jose credit for the introduction of Zouma. Technically, Zouma isn't even really a youngster considering the amount of experience he's already racked up at just 20 but still it was a ballsy move that's atypical of his entire managerial career. Kudos to him. Lets hope our actual products also get chances as well. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 My friend says bus parking is Chelsea DNA like Barcelona have Possesion DNA. He says its the identity of the club, do u agree?No. We played always attacking football in every game in Zola's time. What we lacked was a wealthy owner to take us to the next level. We also pretty attack minded in the 70's as well, so I hear. We played attacking football under Ancelotti. Under him, I believe we played the most complete football in the Abramovich era, but the team Mourinho built was already starting to weaken badly in the 2011 season. I remember complete performances like this one, were we went to difficult grounds and imposed our game on teams. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GprcTAFLQCw Then all of a sudden, instead of backing him with the responsibility of building his own team, Abramovich sacked him. That was Roman's biggest mistake ever. He sacked the best manager we've ever had aside from Vialli. I credit Mourinho a lot with team building, resiliance and with the winning mentality he instilled in Chelsea. He built our first world class team, that team was built for him and built in his image. That team wasn't designed to play beautiful football, but to overpower teams. And when Mourinho faced a manager that could be as pragmatic as he was in Benitez, he failed. Twice. I also credit Mourinho with building this amazing team. In conjunction with Emenalo and our scouts, that's the best thing he's done since he returned. But you just get the feeling this team is not built in his image. His tactical strength is in organizing defenses and counter attacking, not in playing possession football and designing sophisticated attacks. It's been that way all his career and he is not as complete tactically as he'll like himself to be advertised. This team was built by Abramovich for Guardiola and Guardiola snubbed him and chose Bayern. Mourinho wasn't even the 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice because of his tactics and controversial nature. It's obvious our wealthy benefactor wants this team to play attacking football, bring through our own youth and still win titles. People seem to forget that his opinion on things also counts. Muzchap and lionsden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't think the way we played in the second half is a consequence of the manager, it comes down to not having any real way to inject pace to change the game. IThe guys were tired today anyone who has watched more than 5 football matches could see that. It absolutely is, since it was basically from minute 1 of the 2nd half and since we actually played our best football in the last 10 mins of the 1st half. Human physiology suggests you're more likely to be tired in the closing stages of the 1st than in the opening stages of the 2nd half. Mourinho has no excuses. I sense some arrogance in your second sentence, which isn't surprising coming from you. Yet it is deeply misplaced and you fail to sense the irony of your post. Courtois all of a sudden hitting long balls with 100% alacrity, our defenders not even attempting to play from the back anymore, regardless of limitations. In clear contrast to the 1st half. If you think that wasn't Mourinho, then well.... wow. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 He did everything what he could, he was all passion tonight. Glad we have him. We love you Mourinho.Yes, his antics on the touchline are more entertaining than his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 My friend says bus parking is Chelsea DNA like Barcelona have Possesion DNA. He says its the identity of the club, do u agree?Your friend is an ignorant wanker . Unless you gay dump him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Yes, his antics on the touchline are more entertaining than his team. There is a simple solution to your problem . Find another team to follow. Let me know who decided to favour with your support kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 There is a simple solution to your problem . Find another team to follow. Let me know who decided to favour with your supportThat's not a solution because my problem is not with Chelsea. I'm merely highlighting the tactical limitations of our manager. Mourinho is one of the best managers in the world, but believe or not, he has his problems, as was evidenced in the 2nd half of this game and several other big games this season and last season. Big games that cost us titles. To question Mourinho is not to question Chelsea Football club, Zolayes. You're better than this, Zolayes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 That's not a solution because my problem is not with Chelsea. I'm merely highlighting the tactical limitations of our manager. Mourinho is one of the best managers in the world, but believe or not, he has his problems, as was evidenced in the 2nd half of this game and several other big games this season and last season. Big games that cost us titles. To question Mourinho is not to question Chelsea Football club, Zolayes. You're better than this, Zolayes.yes I am better than those who want everything on a plate .i was a supporter when we were crap and got hammered in the second division. Without Cesc and Diego. It was an excellent result and the END. Justified the MEANS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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