The Mourinho Thread

[lionsden 4,689]

Denmark manager's views on Jose's philosophy

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelseas-jose-mourinho-accused-killing-3496511

[couris 232]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2620214/Exclusive-Jose-Mourinho-lashes-players-half-time-bust-Stamford-Bridge.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[The Chels 2,502]

Denmark manager's views on Jose's philosophy

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelseas-jose-mourinho-accused-killing-3496511

Every man and his dog has an opinion on Jose's tactics

[didierforever 7,349]

Our line up at home could have been more attacking. Why have two DMF's at home against Norwich?!

We were the home team, and we should be taking the initiative.

what? since we were the home team we should start the match with 3 strikers and 5 AMs?

we play football a particular way. we were 2 points of the top of the table with a CL semi final with that kind of play. we did take the initiative.we finished the match with 2 strikers and 3 ams.

u know what, this week, madrid and barca also drew. specially madrid who had the league in the hands after knowing that ATM lost and barca had drawn. should they be accused of the same. results can go wrong sometimes. u cant blame jose for everythin.

[didierforever 7,349]

in the morning someone posted an article by owen and now the danish coach. LOLOLOLOLOLOL... oh has it really come down to THIS!!!! people are so desperate.

[The Mak 4,459]

I think it's gotten to the point where a lot of the reactions to the criticisms of Mourinho are just as knee-jerk as some of the criticisms itself. I admit that a few of the posts I've read on here slating Mourinho have been over the top, but at the same time there're some that have been legitimate criticisms. The problem I'm seeing here is that regardless of whether there're unreasonable or valid, any criticism of Mourinho is being met with angry accusations of being a glory hunter. This is exactly the same thing some members did in the beginning of the season when a few were saying that Oscar doesn't give us enough creativity and shouldn't be played in the number 10 position ahead of Mata. It was the same kind of reaction.......... "mata fanboy", "plastic fan" "support the club not the player".

It's normal to respond angrily to unpopular opinions (I'm not excused from that myself) but to start making accusations and calling lionsden or whoever, a plastic supporter just because they dare to hold a contrasting opinion from the normative thinking, crosses the line of reason.

I don't agree with everything Lionsden or MrExcalibur have said but I just think it's ridiculous that they're being treated with so little civility by a few on here when really, they haven't said anything so outrageous to warrant that kind of treatment. It's not like they've said "Mourinho will be the death of Chelsea. Sack him now". What they've said is that Mourinho has certain flaws that they don't like and they've been brave enough to verbalize them rather than follow the flock.

Imo I think what we've seen in the champions league this season isn't really the "death of tika taka" but what can happen when a coach isn't flexible and when a coach prescribes too rigidly to one type of system.

Mourinho needs to evolve as a coach and he needs to evolve his tactics. If saying so makes me a shit supporter, then ya'll can kiss my ass.

Gems like this help me keep the faith in this forum.

I love you, marry me now!

Damn son, beat me to it!

[LAM09 7,069]

what? since we were the home team we should start the match with 3 strikers and 5 AMs?

we play football a particular way. we were 2 points of the top of the table with a CL semi final with that kind of play. we did take the initiative.we finished the match with 2 strikers and 3 ams.

u know what, this week, madrid and barca also drew. specially madrid who had the league in the hands after knowing that ATM lost and barca had drawn. should they be accused of the same. results can go wrong sometimes. u cant blame jose for everythin.

I ain't blaming Jose for everything, but just stating the facts. Also, RM drew to one of the EL semifinalists & and not to a team who is all but relegated.

The bottom line is, EVERYONE has to take part of the blame. We are a team!

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but this will be the first time in the Abramovich era a manager wins nothing for a full season and does not get sacked?

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

And Neil Ashton is at it again:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2620214/Exclusive-Jose-Mourinho-lashes-players-half-time-bust-Stamford-Bridge.html

[didierforever 7,349]

Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but this will be the first time in the Abramovich era a manager wins nothing for a full season and does not get sacked?

probably cos ROMAN atlast understands the importance of managerial stability.

[darrus 422]

Mou is what he is and that's not perfect, but it grinds my gears when i see Pep, Wenger and even AVB used as these examples of class.

Especially AVB with the way he left Porto and all this recent scandal with taking away their goalkeeping coach. That Wenger went all out attacking Mourinho (fear of failure babble) is not remembered, Pep's moaning about how "poor he" was badly treated and afraid of Barcelona players caused outrage at Barcelona's fanbase but was quickly forgotten, same as his recent outburst about Beckenbauer (serves Franz right btw but still it was cringeworthy as hell). Pellegrini going about how Chelsea doesn't deserve to win anything because of our style of play - was it classy?

On the other hand Mourinho despite his record of 20(?) titles in 11 years is called failure and has to defend himself or better just shut up because if he actually answers "enemy of football", "nazi" or "coward" or other names given by press and opposition fans he is a classless twat.

And that's all beside the point by the way. Jose's personality was very well known. Despite of it, Terry was singing lovesongs to him in the press-conference just last Tuesday, and strangely while he's fallen out with every Real Madrid' s player a lot of them still speak well of him. If his character is ok for the team, it's ok, period.

The facts are:

- we've done a bit better this season than last season.

- we fixed our defence, that's a plus.

- we still have problems with our game, especially in the creative department.

- bying a striker alone is not fixing it unless we buy Messi - and even then it may not help, as this season Messi wasn't able to carry Barca all by himself.

- part of it should be blamed on Mourinho.

- part of the blame goes to people who were responsible for buying players in last 3 seasons as we have unbalanced squad

- part of blame goes to the players who sometimes are not up to task..

- "we were better dealing with parked buses under Benitez/RDM" is a myth - look up last season's results.

- we should be doing better against those teams - is a cruel reality that cost us this season.

If we fix striker problems and get some width in midfield without sacrificing solidity at the back, we're good to go. And then it will be the season Mourinho will be judged for, if he fails - then he has failed.

Though I still not exclude the possibility of him being sacked in a week as stranger things have happened here.

@ kellzfresh

judging by reports and schemes we are training combinations with short passes and quick turnovers but I guess when your AMs prefer to do everything by themselves than pass to a striker (a worrying thing to see) it's hard to implement. Another problem is too many individual attempts by AMs. Let's see how it is improved\not improved during the summer.

With that I'm out of here as everyone of us is going to more or less stay by pur opinions anyway and arguing for the sake of arguing is not the best way to end the season.

See ya

[didierforever 7,349]

I ain't blaming Jose for everything, but just stating the facts. Also, RM drew to one of the EL semifinalists & and not to a team who is all but relegated.

The bottom line is, EVERYONE has to take part of the blame. We are a team!

precisely!! EVERYONE!!! jose for not being able to motivate the players properly specially for the 1st half and the players for giving us that shit of a performance. but the "defensive tactics" thing dont come into play anywhere.

we lost to the la liga leaders (ahead of barca and RM) and this forum labelled it a massive failure. since then people having been at jose's throat. so forgive me for not being as kind to RM.

[zolayes 14,489]

precisely!! EVERYONE!!! jose for not being able to motivate the players properly specially for the 1st half and the players for giving us that shit of a performance. but the "defensive tactics" thing dont come into play anywhere.

we lost to the la liga leaders (ahead of barca and RM) and this forum labelled it a massive failure. since then people having been at jose's throat. so forgive me for not being as kind to RM.

we also lost to sunderland (twice ) and the Palace ,,, TTF the hoops got relegated last year

[didierforever 7,349]

we also lost to sunderland (twice ) and the Palace ,,, TTF the hoops got relegated last year

so? your point?

[zolayes 14,489]

so? your point?

losing to top teams can be accepted ,, to the bottom teams can't ,, OK ????

[didierforever 7,349]

losing to top teams can be accepted ,, to the bottom teams can't ,, OK ????

teams have a bad phase. every team goes thru one of this phase at some point of time. ours has come now, unfortunately at the most crucial time in the league. u can even say that the players have choked under the pressure.

so what? lets all have a pop at our manager!!!!

[zolayes 14,489]

teams have a bad phase. every team goes thru one of this phase at some point of time. ours has come now, unfortunately at the most crucial time in the league. u can even say that the players have choked under the pressure.

so what? lets all have a pop at our manager!!!!

I wouldn't if he didnt blame the players in public

[LAM09 7,069]

precisely!! EVERYONE!!! jose for not being able to motivate the players properly specially for the 1st half and the players for giving us that shit of a performance. but the "defensive tactics" thing dont come into play anywhere.

we lost to the la liga leaders (ahead of barca and RM) and this forum labelled it a massive failure. since then people having been at jose's throat. so forgive me for not being as kind to RM.

Kl. I haven't been down Jose's throat at all, despite recent results. We need to shape up next season, and deliver on the pitch. No more excuses next season.

[didierforever 7,349]

I wouldn't if he didnt blame the players in public

he did?

so saying that the player dint critisize the club and the comments were taken out of context counts for nothing. but simply saying that hazard should have done more for the goals is blaming the players in public. ok!!!

[Reddish-Blue 2,513]

What an awful result....these are the types of games we should be winning by 2 or 3 goals

Surprised that Kalas and Van Ginkel didn't get a chance against Norwich..

All in All, Mourinho will either win a major trophy next season or he'll be on his way