The Mourinho Thread

[The Mak 4,459]

I agree, but here is the thing...

You are making Mourinho bigger than he is and are taking credit away from Red Nose. What goes around comes around, Mourinho also doesnt do many mind games against Utd because of Ferguson.

SAF is not that clueless, although a total cunt!

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I do realise that Fergie isn't stupid. He knows well what Mourinho is up to.

But as I said, he simply loves the adulation. It's his weakness. It's like putting a steak in front of a dog; he can't help himself.

Instead, he seemed to focus on Ronaldo's return (and seems to have got his (ex-)players to put the pressure on him), which would've suited Mourinho down to the ground, since Madrid have more ways to score than just Ronaldo (especially when you consider he had a bad game and still managed to score).

[Rmpr 8,977]

I do realise that Fergie isn't stupid. He knows well what Mourinho is up to.

But as I said, he simply loves the adulation. It's his weakness. It's like putting a steak in front of a dog; he can't help himself.

Instead, he seemed to focus on Ronaldo's return (and seems to have got his player to put the pressure on him), which would've suited Mourinho down to the ground, since Madrid have more ways to score than just Ronaldo (especially when you consider he had a bad game and still managed to score).

Yeah, definetly agree!

Mourinho is by far the best coach in every aspect (tactics, man management and mind games)....

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I'm so annoyed with people's attitudes and sympathy for United today, really makes me furious. Some news reports you read suggest Real Madrid were never in the match, or even in the country last night and that United going through was a sure thing.

The fact is, the decision changed the game but it was more of Mourinho's tactical changes that really made the difference. Whether Nani was on the pitch or not, Modric displayed a class act in retaining possession and unleashing his shot. I read that 'shot that went off the post', totally discredited the magnitude of Modric's shot.

And you know what. The same people who complained De Jong should've been sent off by Howard Webb are the same who say Nani's conduct was innocent. Double standards.. Everywhere.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

If you want to get a reaction from your players then you tell them in the dressing room that they weren't good enough and need to improve.

Telling the whole world that the better team lost, that Man Utd deserved to go through etc is just bizarre. I don't know about you guys but if I was a player I'd have been a bit pissed off with that.

It just comes off as a desperate attempt at being nice to a club he is eager to manage. Poor form from Jose really.

I would generally be pissed off if I was a Madrid supporter. Mourinho's comments along with Ronaldo's lack of effort was just appalling. Ronaldo could've easily had 2-3 more but continued to pass the ball to De Gea as opposed to having a proper shot.

[The Mak 4,459]

Yeah, definetly agree!

Mourinho is by far the best coach in every aspect (tactics, man management and mind games)....

Not sure if you're actually agreeing with me or "doing a Mourinho"...

[Rmpr 8,977]

Not sure if you're actually agreeing with me or "doing a Mourinho"...

You will never know!

[Mundaka 243]

I am not so sure about Mourinho being the best option tho (i prefer Klopp for us anyways), in mind-games hes the best, man-management skills are also among the best, but tactically? I have my doubts about that one, since hes not very flexible in his way of playing (looking at all the teams he coached) and for real madrid it's not perfect... just look at kaka's situation, even ozil has it tough.

Also yesterday they were owned by Ferguson tactically fe.

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You can pretty much say mazacar bye bye then if he joins... it's just not his style to use that many players of such type, which would be a shame for the football-style Chelsea set their eyes on.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I am not so sure about Mourinho being the best option tho (i prefer Klopp for us anyways), in mind-games hes the best, man-management skills are also among the best, but tactically? I have my doubts about that one, since hes not very flexible in his way of playing (looking at all the teams he coached) and for real madrid it's not perfect... just look at kaka's situation, even ozil has it tough.

Also yesterday they were owned by Ferguson tactically fe.

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You can pretty much say mazacar bye bye then if he joins... it's just not his style to use that many players of such type, which would be a shame for the football-style Chelsea set their eyes on.

Klopp plays fairly similar football, and isn't available.

In fact Mourinho's style would fit our players pretty well wouldn't it?

[Mundaka 243]

Well no , he wants to much assurance

[Jase 43,479]

I am not so sure about Mourinho being the best option tho (i prefer Klopp for us anyways), in mind-games hes the best, man-management skills are also among the best, but tactically? I have my doubts about that one, since hes not very flexible in his way of playing (looking at all the teams he coached) and for real madrid it's not perfect... just look at kaka's situation, even ozil has it tough.

Also yesterday they were owned by Ferguson tactically fe.

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You can pretty much say mazacar bye bye then if he joins... it's just not his style to use that many players of such type, which would be a shame for the football-style Chelsea set their eyes on.

Are you talking about his tactics here or his playing style? If you're talking about the latter, then it just doesn't go with the former because they are two different things.

Just to answer it anyway, not sure how can you doubt Mourinho's tactical ability. He might not be the best at it but he's definitely one of the best around. Since his days at Porto, his teams are always capable of playing in more than one different formation and capable of adapting accordingly. 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2 diamond etc. Additionally, he has often been quick to enough to make changes when things are not working and is even prepared to take huge risks in games that not many other managers would be willing too. He also always set out his team to be defensively solid(maybe not with Madrid this season) and aggressive as a unit and be extremely potent when attacking. His time here and at Inter demonstrated that his teams are defensively stingy while his Madrid side are extremely menacing and devastating in attack. He has always been very methodical and pay close attention to those small little details that made his teams tick. The transition in attacks/counter attacks, defensive organization, closing down, pressing etc. He didn't achieve what he has achieved so far without being tactically capable and while he maybe a great man-manager and motivator, that alone won't be enough to make one successful. You need to have a balance of both and Mourinho possesses exactly that.

And yes, I don't disagree that Fergie out-thought him yesterday but once that red card incident happened, he immediately responded by bringing on Modric to turn the tide in his favor. He seized the opportunity and didn't wait for it(unlike a certain Spanish manager) and what happened? United were suddenly pushed back and Modric scored after 6-7 minutes of coming on. Also, just because he was out-thought by Fergie yesterday, doesn't mean he's not tactically capable. No shame in getting out-thought by someone as experience as Fergie because it happens but the overall H2H record between two speaks for itself. In 16 encounters, Mourinho has won 7 of those while losing just 2. Drew the other 7.

[Mundaka 243]

Well they do come hand in hand but i shouldve said play-style there (the part you made bold, as i ment it like that) indeed (in dutch i can explain this stuff better )

And i dont mean to say he's mediocre tactically, i still see him in the top 10/20 in that department also.

He also always set out his team to be defensively solid(maybe not with Madrid this season) and aggressive as a unit and be extremely potent when attacking.

Here is where i see it differently , they are only extremely potent while countering, where Dortmund or Bayern fe are also (very) dangerous while not. And thats also the difference between Chelsea's style under Mourinho and the style under DiMateo (this year). We dont have the players anymore to play like that (as successfully as we have been anyways), nor is it the aim to play like that (why else would we change our style like that?). I give you on a paper he will drop at least one, perhaps 2 of the 3 AM's we have playing now to replace him with essien orso and play with 2 holding midfielders.

In my opinion he plays to much on assurance instead of really overpowering sides (with pressing/playing high on the field), and i am just not a fan of playing like that, even though it might be the best way... (and no RM aren't the best in pressing, he just recently changed to such a tactic against Barcelona after the Milan game against Barcelona, and if RM were really good in it they wouldve destroyed Barcelona (thinking 5-0) with their current form).

He immediately responded by bringing on Modric to turn the tide in his favor. He seized the opportunity and didn't wait for it(unlike a certain Spanish manager) and what happened? United were suddenly pushed back and Modric scored after 6-7 minutes of coming on.

Well yeh but i give more credit to Modric than to Mourinho, because i think kaka wouldve been better in that situation. (Because their midfield would work again anyways with the man more situation)

[Mundaka 243]

Basicly i'm more pro Ajax/Netherlands/4-3-3 (as they invented it, not the way some like to play it now..) and for me personally its unacceptable to play with alonso/ khedira/ozil @ madrid (with their history, the galactico's you know) while you could play alonso/modric-kaka/ozil or khedira/modric-kaka/ozil. Same reason why he would get essien (nothing against him, huge fan even) to madrid instead of playing modric/kaka.

[Jase 43,479]

In my opinion he plays to much on assurance instead of really overpowering sides (with pressing/playing high on the field), and i am just not a fan of playing like that, even though it might be the best way... (and no RM aren't the best in pressing, he just recently changed to such a tactic against Barcelona after the Milan game against Barcelona, and if RM were really good in it they wouldve destroyed Barcelona (thinking 5-0) with their current form).

That 5-0 scoreline was a freak result. Unlikely to happen again for ages. And the Madrid side this season isn't in the best of form like last season but that doesn't take away what Mourinho has built in the side.

He immediately responded by bringing on Modric to turn the tide in his favor. He seized the opportunity and didn't wait for it(unlike a certain Spanish manager) and what happened? United were suddenly pushed back and Modric scored after 6-7 minutes of coming on.

Well yeh but i give more credit to Modric than to Mourinho, because i think kaka wouldve been better in that situation. (Because their midfield would work again anyways with the man more situation)

Kaka was already brought on in the 1st half for the injured Di Maria. He didn't really had much of an impact and when the sending off happened, Madrid needed another passer like Modric anyway in that midfield. Capable of playing short, run with the ball etc. It worked.

Basicly i'm more pro Ajax/Netherlands/4-3-3 (as they invented it, not the way some like to play it now..) and for me personally its unacceptable to play with alonso/ khedira/ozil @ madrid (with their history) while you could play alonso/modric-kaka/ozil or khedira/modric-kaka/ozil

Biased!

[Mundaka 243]

Kaka was already brought on in the 1st half for the injured Di Maria. He didn't really had much of an impact and when the sending off happened, Madrid needed another passer like Modric anyway in that midfield. Capable of playing short, run with the ball etc. It worked.

*doh* but was trying to make the point the midfield wouldve worked anyways! (since alonso was free again)

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