The Mourinho Thread

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

Whatever you say about Mourinho (and I'm not one of those on the "OMG Jose come here please OMG" brigade), the guy's a winner and he's hardly likely to let such trivial connections influence him into weakening the squad or its work ethic. Have you considered that maybe he'd look to find the new Drogba/Lampard/Terry among the team members now? Just look to rally the squad around that spine like he did in 05? Yes he may keep one or two of the original old guard around as well, but if their presence and winning mentality rubs off on the virgins (as far as trophies are concerned) in this team, is it really that bad?

I think you're confusing trust with sycophancy.

Well that's really how he starts with a club. Gets them to have 100% never ending loyalty with the players he has, which has the unfortunate consequence that when he leaves they become almost unmanageable for anyone who replaces him. He failed miserably with Madrid with that and the way he reacted to it is cringe worthy.

I would hate it even players like Mata start developing huge egos like Lampard and Terry and make life difficult for other managers once Mourinho leaves again (and don't think he will stay here for the long haul, the guy can't stay at a club for more then a year before getting in fights with someone)

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

That is not audacity dear friend, if you want to be "THE DIFFERENT ONE" I dont really care, as long as you dont troll legends

Because I have the audacity to think that aside from goals, Lampard's efforts as a midfielder has been shit this season?

[SinineUltra 1,170]

I don't base my opinions on what other people think. You seem a bit miffed that I have the audacity not to follow what you and others are thinking.

I'm guess your going to spout drivel that I'm not a 'proper' Chelsea fan

I have to agree with Sam here - why can't he have his opinion? I mean the people who have different opinions from the rest are automatically not Chelsea fans and deserve a ban for trolling - like many imply here. A right and correct answer isn't automatically what the majority thinks, so people lay off and broaden your horizon a bit.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Because I have the audacity to think that aside from goals, Lampard's efforts as a midfielder has been shit this season?

I'll tell it again : 15 League goals, 34 year old, more than 40 games, was injured, thank you goodbye.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

I'll tell it again : 15 League goals, 34 year old, more than 40 games, was injured, thank you goodbye.

Apart from games when we lose and he has been dreadful again. He is by definition a midfielder and he has to contribute more to other aspects of the team, we do suffer in many games because we don't have a player that can take his place and actually control the midfield for us. Sure if you desperately want him to be a sub player, but that will never happen under Mourinho.

[Madmax 9,219]

Well that's really how he starts with a club. Gets them to have 100% never ending loyalty with the players he has, which has the unfortunate consequence that when he leaves they become almost unmanageable for anyone who replaces him. He failed miserably with Madrid with that and the way he reacted to it is cringe worthy.

I would hate it even players like Mata start developing huge egos like Lampard and Terry and make life difficult for other managers once Mourinho leaves again (and don't think he will stay here for the long haul, the guy can't stay at a club for more then a year before getting in fights with someone)

Let's wait and see.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Apart from games when we lose and he has been dreadful again. He is by definition a midfielder and he has to contribute more to other aspects of the team, we do suffer in many games because we don't have a player that can take his place and actually control the midfield for us. Sure if you desperately want him to be a sub player, but that will never happen under Mourinho.

I think you forgot huge point and it is : He is playing out of position.José will judge, because he is far more intelligeant than you me, and everybody here (except maybe Peace and Seb ) If José thinks Lampard can contribute in a specific match, he'll play, if not, he'll be benched by his idol.You are right to say he isnt performing, but you arent using your mind 100 % its seems, you forgot his age, and the different injuries he had, plus out of position in a transational team playing without striker......what could you expect ?

[Toli 977]

So...when Mourinho comes....will he try to bring Drogba back?

dont think so. didiers career here is over....and thats good. he is a legend, no need to demolish his status. we need to look into the future not into the past. there are enough strikers out there....

[The Mak 4,459]

Took him a year and half before he dropped him, and even then only when he got injured and others perform better.

Expect him to try and stick longer with Lampard even though he clearly should only be used as an impact player for next season

No, he was played consistently only in his first year only. Does 13 games sound like half a year to you? There was also a reason he was played in his first year: he played well.

Aside from making a mistake here or there, he played exceptionally well for someone his age. You seem to be making it out as if Pepe and Ramos are Beckenbauer in comparison?! The red card specialists?! Really? They too are prone to brain farts just as much as any La Liga defender, but at least if Ricky made a mistake, it was mainly due to his failing body. In the second season he didn't play well, so he was dropped.

Besides, what is La Liga know for? Defending? I don't think so. When you have one of the top two teams in the league with Ronaldo, Benzema, Ozil etc. You can pretty much forget about the defence. Barca do it all the time.

The fact that you're basing your argument on one player, one time (and who actually played well), in a completely different team, in a completely different league with a different ethos just shows how laughable your argument is.

Mourinho is a winner above anything else. I don't see him ever jeopardising that over sentimentality.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

No, he was played consistently only in his first year only. Does 13 games sound like half a year to you? There was also a reason he was played in his first year: he played well.

Aside from making a mistake here or there, he played exceptionally well for someone his age. You seem to be making it out as if Pepe and Ramos are Beckenbauer in comparison?! The red card specialists?! Really? They too are prone to brain farts just as much as any La Liga defender, but at least if Ricky made a mistake, it was mainly due to his failing body. In the second season he didn't play well, so he was dropped.

Besides, what is La Liga know for? Defending? I don't think so. When you have one of the top two teams in the league with Ronaldo, Benzema, Ozil etc. You ca pretty much forget about the defence. Barca do it all the time.

The fact that you're basing your argument on one player, one time (and who actually played well), in a completely different team, in a completely different league with a different ethos just shows how laughable your argument is.

Mourinho is a winner above anything else. I don't see him ever jeopardising that over sentimentality.

Did he? I seem to remember him being part of the back 4 that conceded 5 to Barcelona, not to mention letting in stupid goals in other games. I remember his last season for Chelsea, I think everybody on this board was demanding he be forever dropped and make way for Alex. It was clear for most that he was declining yet Mourinho took him. Same again with Essien, guy has no kneecaps and for some reason Mourinho wants him, and no way improves the team.

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

Who gives a ruddy shit

I'm sure if anyone here knew better than Jose they wouldn't be posting on an internet forum.

[The Mak 4,459]

Did he? I seem to remember him being part of the back 4 that conceded 5 to Barcelona, not to mention letting in stupid goals in other games. I remember his last season for Chelsea, I think everybody on this board was demanding he be forever dropped and make way for Alex. It was clear for most that he was declining yet Mourinho took him. Same again with Essien, guy has no kneecaps and for some reason Mourinho wants him, and no way improves the team.

That's it, measure him up against Messi and Barcelona. And all of those goals were because of him then? All 5 goals?

So far you've only mentioned one game against one of the best teams ever constructed...your argument seems to be getting weaker the more you speak.

Essien has shown he sufficient enough for La Liga and I'd say he would be sufficient enough as a DM for us. Though probably against teams out of the top 6 or so. However, his wages are a different matter altogether; he's probably on quite a bit, but I'm not sure. He can definitely contribute as a DM though. As slow as he has become, he's certainly more mobile than Mikel. He won't be a starter though as we'll end up buying a new DM/DLP in the summer for sure.

[nono 791]

Return of ugly football? We are still suffering the consequences of Mourinho's in terms of a midfield that can not string two passes together. Let's wait and see I guess.

[nono 791]

Remember when Mourinho would just have us just hoof the ball up to Drogba every time. That was a great tactic I think.

[bababoom 4,478]

^

No one reacted to his first post so he makes a second...

Obvious WUM.

[nono 791]

Call me a WUM if you like, but I only speak truths, even if they are uncomfortable. Our midfield got completely outclassed today by Benfica. If Mourinho returns and starts Mikel + Lampard in the center again, I will faint. Need a manager with a vision for attacking, possession football. Mourinho is just hoof and pray football.

[Rambo 1,729]

Its going to painful watching him try and base the midfield around Essien and Lampard, and force the likes of Mata and Hazard out of their preferred psoitions in order to make way for those two.

[Hutcho 8,443]

[The Skipper 20,609]

Call me a WUM if you like, but I only speak truths, even if they are uncomfortable. Our midfield got completely outclassed today by Benfica. If Mourinho returns and starts Mikel + Lampard in the center again, I will faint. Need a manager with a vision for attacking, possession football. Mourinho is just hoof and pray football.

Because that's what's he's been doing at Real Madrid right? Hooving the ball up to Benzema/Higuain/Callejon because they're all Drogba-esque strikers - oh wait.

[November33rd 84]

Call me a WUM if you like, but I only speak truths, even if they are uncomfortable. Our midfield got completely outclassed today by Benfica. If Mourinho returns and starts Mikel + Lampard in the center again, I will faint. Need a manager with a vision for attacking, possession football. Mourinho is just hoof and pray football.

So the guy who coached the Real Madrid team that set a La Liga record for goals scored last season doesn't have a vision for attacking football? Lulz

Hoof and Pray? You've never seen a Real Madrid match in the last 3 years I'm assuming.