ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 No but then again Ferguson tactically has never been the manager many think Mourinho is. Ferguson is a legendary manager mainly because of his longevity but tactically he has never been one of the game's great coaches. Klopp has taken Mourinho to school this season. Twice beating him and Madrid escaping with a draw in the other game at home. Losing so emphatically and being outplayed to that extent is far more damaging for Mourinho's reputation than Ferguson losing games to Benitez.1 league title in 3 seasons and no Champions League with the most expensive sqaud ever assembled is a massive failure. but I wonder how much its down to joses tactical frailty or the dressing room disharmony we hear about. A lot of madrids players didnt look overly up for it last night. Not doubting klopps managerial prowess just dont think suddenly hes mastered jose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 No, I will comeback in the evening, actually, I just dont have the time right now, but I have nothing to tell you, Mourinho is the best manager around, Klopp is the best in the past two years, thank you good bye.Loool, all of this to admit he was the best in the past couple of years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Skips, you have to appreciate that a lot of what went wrong for BVB this season was out of his control. The team has gone through a series of injuries most notabley Sven Bender and Mats Hummels missing out large chunks of the season and even then players like Schmelzer, Kuba, and Weidenfeller have missed a smaller chunk of games. All their success has finally caught up to them and their squad depth couldn't handle it any further.Yeah, I appreciate and get that. Klopp's a fine manager with an outstanding future - but he hasn't been the best manager in the world this year, and yeah external factors have probably played a part in that - however if you're looking for the manager who's been outstanding this season it has to be Jupp Heynckes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 but I wonder how much its down to joses tactical frailty or the dressing room disharmony we hear about. A lot of madrids players didnt look overly up for it last night. Not doubting klopps managerial prowess just dont think suddenly hes mastered joseFair enough.Doesn't it worry you that Madrid's players didn't look up for a semi final game in the European Cup? Jose is known to be an excellent man-manager and motivator yet Dortmund ran all over them from start to finish just like they did in the previous two games this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Kloppy is a very good manager, as seen in the last two years. However, Dort are faced against Bayern only.Jose is facing Barca. The best team for several years.There is a big difference here. nachikethas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Depends on what you mean by 'best manager in the world right now'. If you're looking at the best manager this season - I certainly wouldn't say it's Klopp or Mourinho. I'd give it to Heynckes simply because Bayern are on the verge of an outstanding treble. I know Borussia have far less monies than Bayern but Bayern have been outstanding this season on all fronts.One season is only one season and if he fails to win UCL for the second straight year, how will he be remembered? As the guy who won Bundesliga with the best record and trashed Barcelona or the guy who let BVB win the double in 2012 and lost 2 consecutive finals? It is still all very relative when it comes to Heynckes. He lies into a fine line between failing and being an absolute hero!Of course Klopp has been the better manager since Mourinho's been at Real, I can easily admit that, but one must remember Mourinho's work at his previous clubs Inter, us and Porto - this is exactly the reason why Mourinho's rated above Klopp and rightly so - Klopp hasn't done half of what Mourinho has done over his career so naturally people will obviously conclude that Mourinho's the better manager - and I know you aren't even saying that Klopp's better than Mourinho overall but that he's just been the better manager over the last couple of seasons, which is right.Just made my case with the very first sentence!I am saying that Mourinho is not the best manager right now, as you pointed out, even Jupp is in front of him.Now, this has nothing to do with me thinking that Klopp is the better coach overall nor that he is the better option. I said from the start that I want Mourinho and end of story, he is the only one good enough to lead our team and handle with English media and Roman's temper. I am Mourinho all the way!I am just stating and giving facts why he is not the best manager at the moment. Meaning that if we were to give an award or something, he would not be a contender. That is all...You're right in saying that Mourinho hasn't been the best in his tenure at Real and you've got valid points on your criticism on him but one managerial spell shouldn't cloud your judgement over Mourinho. You might say we have drama as a club but Madrid are even worse - there are too many power struggles at Madrid. I fully believe he'll do a lot better managing us than managing Madrid.Well, he cant do much worse, can he? Kidding, he will be as successful as he was previously (I have no doubt). If in 3-4 years we can win EPL and UCL (even if it is all we get, 2 trophies), I will be forever happy! The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Dortmund were dire in last year's CL campaign. People sure like to overreact, but it's not uncommon in sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Falcao is the hottest goal scorer around. if he won´t succeed in PL then where is he going to...? I see him, scoring around 35 goals if he comes. Domestic league is secondary to CL. Chelsea may finish in top four & still win CL trophy. If they win PL, be it. It´s fine with me.Couldn't disagree more. The league is what you compete for week in and week out. It's against your closest rivals. It's the one you and your mates get up for. League first, Europe a very close second.As for Falcao, there are no certainties in life and whilst he is a fantastic striker he's completely untested in the Premier League. Saying he'll score 35 goals is a little....silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Couldn't disagree more. The league is what you compete for week in and week out. It's against your closest rivals. It's the one you and your mates get up for. League first, Europe a very close second.As for Falcao, there are no certainties in life and whilst he is a fantastic striker he's completely untested in the Premier League. Saying he'll score 35 goals is a little....silly.Not in my book. CL No 1 then PL & the rest, it does not matter much to me.If Van Pussy or Dracula from Liverpoops can score 25 goals, Falcao should be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,578 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Falcao backed for Chelsea move German media claim striker will follow Mourinho to Stamford Bridgehttp://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8670710/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Yes, just a copy job from Bild.However, let it be true though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Not in my book. CL No 1 then PL & the rest, it does not matter much to me.If Van Pussy or Dracula from Liverpoops can score 25 goals, Falcao should be better.I think you're on your own in that regard. The league has to be the priority. ulsterchelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 So sick of this unknowing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Accordding to a lot of sources in english press, Pellegrini will replace Benitez, while Mourinho is desperate to return to Chelsea, Abramovich is unmoved.I bet Pellegrini will be the next manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I think you're on your own in that regard. The league has to be the priority. I doubt it. Those who watch European football in Germany, Spain, Italy & other countries, do not care much about PL.It means nothing. Domestic titles are for Englishmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Accordding to a lot of sources in english press, Pellegrini will replace Benitez, while Mourinho is desperate to return to Chelsea, Abramovich is unmoved.I bet Pellegrini will be the next manager.Please point me to these sources? The credible only thing I've read about Pellegrini is that he's being looked at as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Please point me to these sources? The only thing I've read about Pellegrini is that he's being looked at as an option.Both Telegraph and Daily Mail reported the chilean as the top 1 target. Mallaga dont pay Pellegrini since months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Both Telegraph and Daily Mail reported the chilean as the top 1 target. Mallaga dont pay Pellegrini since months ago.Both of these papers have reported Mourinho's return as well. I wouldn't read too much into it but the noise surrounding Mourinho is a lot more than the noise surrounding Pellegrini. I think the club have got Pellegrini on the short list, but don't think he's first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Loool, all of this to admit he was the best in the past couple of years! Admit is strong word, its not like I was telling X until you convinced me to say Y .I'll pick José rather than Klopp everyday of the week for the CFC job, because he is the best manager around, clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Both of these papers have reported Mourinho's return as well. I wouldn't read too much into it but the noise surrounding Mourinho is a lot more than the noise surrounding Pellegrini. I think the club have got Pellegrini on the short list, but don't think he's first choice.Indeed, but Pellegrini news are most recent.And thats why I believe Pellegrini will be the manager, bigger the noise, smaller the chance.Remember the talk about Guus Hiddink and Harry Redknapp, and AVB end up as manager?Remembef the talk about Guardiola? People were talking about Chelsea and even City (!!!!!), and there was no buzz about Bayern at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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