The Mourinho Thread

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Jose sack by Spurs. 

[OneMoSalah 8,751]

Apparently refused to hold training due to Spurs involvement with the super league. 

Apparently Spur’s have said it was result based but if that was the case why did they not sack him a while ago? They were also a week away from a cup final..

100% more likely to do with super league for me. Will he be the first of many? Looking forward to his statement as this will clear it up you would imagine.

Edited April 19, 2021 by OneMoSalah

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3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Apparently refused to hold training due to Spurs involvement with the super league. 

 

inside reports at spurs claiming that's bollocks. 

[OneMoSalah 8,751]

13 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

inside reports at spurs claiming that's bollocks. 

They’re saying its results based. But they’re a week off a cup final and haven’t won a trophy in years? And if it was results based why not pull the trigger much earlier? Makes no sense. 

[Jase 43,479]

15 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

They’re saying its results based. But they’re a week off a cup final and haven’t won a trophy in years? And if it was results based why not pull the trigger much earlier? Makes no sense. 

Think the issue is, even if Mourinho wins them the cup, it would just paper over the obvious cracks at the club.

And had he won them the cup, then it would look kinda silly to just sack him after that. 

[OneMoSalah 8,751]

Just now, Jason said:

Think the issue is, even if Mourinho wins them the cup, it would just paper over the obvious cracks at the club.

And had he won them the cup, then it would look kinda silly to just sack him after that. 

True but Spurs haven't won a trophy since what 2008? Why sack the manager who got you there a week before, even more so considering Kane is likely to miss out and put a 29 year old with 0 managerial experience in his place?

Its may have just papered over the obvious cracks as you’ve said but the logic behind it is frighteningly off. Mourinho may be passed his best but if you had the choice of him managing a team in a cup final or an absolute novice, surely it would make sense to stick with him? 

This is why I think the rumours re the super league makes more sense. Maybe not but I dont see why Spurs would do it when there are maybe 4-5 weeks left of the season. After yesterdays announcement too from all the clubs, the timing is odd.

 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

True but Spurs haven't won a trophy since what 2008? Why sack the manager who got you there a week before, even more so considering Kane is likely to miss out and put a 29 year old with 0 managerial experience in his place?

Its may have just papered over the obvious cracks as you’ve said but the logic behind it is frighteningly off. Mourinho may be passed his best but if you had the choice of him managing a team in a cup final or an absolute novice, surely it would make sense to stick with him? 

This is why I think the rumours re the super league makes more sense. Maybe not but I dont see why Spurs would do it when there are maybe 4-5 weeks left of the season. After yesterdays announcement too from all the clubs, the timing is odd.

But why choose to sack Mourinho when Spurs would have to pay a huge compensation? If Mourinho did not agree with it, then why did he not just walk away instead?

As much as it's a trophy and Spurs haven't won one in ages, not sure how much they care about the League Cup. Not as if it's the Champions League.

Plus, having someone like Mourinho may give them a better chance but it's still no guarantee he will win it considering the state they have been in. They are clearly no longer convinced about him long term and thought better off just sack him now instead of sack him after the final because it would be awkward if they win the trophy.

Maybe they are also hoping for a fresh scenery or a change in atmosphere of sorts by just getting rid of him. 

[OneMoSalah 8,751]

Just now, Jason said:

But why choose to sack Mourinho when Spurs would have to pay a huge compensation? If Mourinho did not agree with it, then why did he not just walk away instead?

As much as it's a trophy and Spurs haven't won one in ages, not sure how much they care about the League Cup. Not as if it's the Champions League.

Plus, having someone like Mourinho may give them a better chance but it's still no guarantee he will win it considering the state they have been in. They are clearly no longer convinced about him long term and thought better off just sack him now instead of sack him after the final because it would be awkward if they win the trophy.

Maybe they are also hoping for a fresh scenery or a change in atmosphere of sorts by just getting rid of him. 

All points I agree with but again regarding walking away, if hes on X,Y or Z a year hes never going to. Was same here both times too. 

I suppose taking only 2 points v Newcastle, United and Everton isn’t particularly impressive and theyve not been great but if they wanted to salvage their season they should of done it sooner. 

Just find the timing really odd. Having no manager in place prior to a cup final is baffling. I know we won a CL and FA cup with Di Matteo who was basically a novice as a PL manager but there are exceptional circumstances and once in a lifetime moments. 

 

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13 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

All points I agree with but again regarding walking away, if hes on X,Y or Z a year hes never going to. Was same here both times too. 

I suppose taking only 2 points v Newcastle, United and Everton isn’t particularly impressive and theyve not been great but if they wanted to salvage their season they should of done it sooner. 

Just find the timing really odd. Having no manager in place prior to a cup final is baffling. I know we won a CL and FA cup with Di Matteo who was basically a novice as a PL manager but there are exceptional circumstances and once in a lifetime moments. 

The timing is odd perhaps but think the Spurs fans have long given up on Mourinho and are glad to see the back of him. 

[manpe 10,861]

Don't try to make sense of Tottenham's actions, there is a reason why they are a trophyless banter meme club with a chicken on a turd as its crest. Shooting themselves in the foot is what they do. Hope Shitty fucking mop the floor with them in the final.

Edited April 21, 2021 by manpe

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A brilliant XI made up of players Jose Mourinho has fallen out with

https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/an-brilliant-xi-made-up-of-players-jose-mourinho-has-publicly-fallen-out-with-real-madrid-manchester-united-Chelsea-tottenham/

Having managed Porto and Inter Milan to Champions League glory and Chelsea to three Premier League titles, there are not too many more decorated managers than Jose Mourinho. 

But perhaps more impressive than his ability to pick up silverware is his uncanny way of doing so while seemingly falling out with every player he manages.

With this in mind, we have put together a ridiculously good XI made up entirely of players the Portuguese has publicly fallen out with.

 

GK: Iker Casillas 

From everything Mourinho said about the Spanish legend, you could probably count the things he liked about him on one hand.

He didn’t like the high-regard in which he was held at the Bernabeu, he didn’t like him having friends in the Barcelona team, he didn’t like his girlfriend being a journalist, and he definitely did not like the way he disagreed with Mourinho’s tactics.

Diego Lopez was signed in the summer of 2012 and played much of the following season in goal instead.

RB: William Gallas

Gallas famously once said that he hated it when Claudio Ranieri played him at right-back for Chelsea. Sorry, William.

Thankfully, you do not actually have to play this one. The Frenchman fell out with Mourinho towards the end of his time with Chelsea when he was pushing for a move across London to Arsenal in 2006.

The club claimed that he told his manager that he would deliberately score own goals if he was not allowed to leave, something that Gallas has since refuted.

CB: Sergio Ramos

It’s remarkable that Mourinho ever managed to lead a training session in Madrid considering the amount of time he spent falling out with club legends.

You would have had pretty short odds on Ramos clashing with him, however. There was that one time the defender pretended to forget who his own manager was in an interview, and also when he wore Mesut Ozil’s shirt after the German had been controversially subbed off.

Strange how this is probably the calmest of the beef Mourinho has been involved in.

 

 

CB: Ricardo Carvalho 

It was sad to see the falling out take place between Mourinho and Carvalho, considering the pair had travelled from Porto to Chelsea together back in 2004.

However, Mourinho was not about to go easy on his compatriot. When Carvalho was unhappy at missing out on selection for the opening game of the 2005-06 season, Mourinho said the defender “seems to have problems understanding things, maybe he should have an IQ test, or go to a mental hospital or something”.

But they kissed and made up in enough time to ensure the Blues won their first Premier League title, and work together for a third time at Real Madrid.

LB: Danny Rose

Rose’s fall-out with Mourinho was more well documented than most. Well, it did happen in a documentary to be fair.

A famous scene in Tottenham’s All Or Nothing series showed the left-back asking his manager for more playing time. The discussion ended with Rose leaving the office, declaring that he would talk to Daniel Levy about his future with the club. In 2020-21, he was banished to the Under-23s

But Rose literally had the last laugh, asking the reporters outside Tottenham’s training ground what they were doing there the morning of Mourinho’s sacking before laughing and climbing back into his van.

 

CM: Paul Pogba 

This one still isn’t over.

 

 

CM: Dele Alli 

After an excellent display against West Ham in Mourinho’s first game in charge, it looked for a while that Alli may finally be back to his best.

But on the commencement of the 2020-21 campaign, that all seemed to change again. Mourinho publicly scorned the attacking midfielder for not showing any fight in January, claiming that he was not happy.

RW: Eden Hazard

In May 2014, Mourinho said Hazard is “not the kind of player to sacrifice himself for the team” after Chelsea were knocked out of the Champions League by Atletico Madrid.

Two years later, after a strong start to the season under Mourinho’s permanent successor Antonio Conte, Hazard praised the Italian by pointedly saying that it took him just one week to improve as a player under the new regime. Ouch.

 

LW: Joe Cole 

Mourinho publicly criticised Cole after the attacking midfielder scored the winner for Chelsea against Liverpool, saying: “When he scored the goal the game finished for him. After that, I needed 11 players for my defensive organisation and I had just 10.”

Thankfully, Cole turned out to be the sort of person who responded well to this risky method of coaching, playing an integral role in back-to-back title wins at the Bridge.

 

AM: Henrikh Mhkitaryan 

Mhkitaryan was one of the world’s most exciting talents when he joined Manchester United from Borussia Dortmund.

Don’t worry. Jose soon saw to that. The Armenian moved to Old Trafford in 2016, managing 13 goals in 69 appearances under Mourinho, who was not shy in publicly criticising his new player.

After joining Roma, Mhkitaryan said: “Once Mourinho saw me at breakfast and said to me, ‘Because of you, the press criticises me.’”

ST: Anthony Martial

Back in the summer of 2018, Anthony Martial had the sheer audacity, the disrespect, the arrogance to *checks notes* attend the birth of his child.

Yep. The French striker left a pre-season tour in America to be with his partner who had gone into labour with their second child. Reports at the time indicated that Mourinho was not happy at all.

Subs: Vitor Baia, Luke Shaw, Pepe, Pedro Leon, Tanguy Ndombele, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Juan Mata.

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How many lives he has? 😆

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So, in for Roma?

[OneMoSalah 8,751]

Interesting move for Mourinho but also a good one for him and Roma I would think. Reunites him with players he’s worked with before such as Smalling, Pedro, Santon and Mkhitaryan.

Roma have underachieved this season for definite after last year and Serie A suits his style and management more now than ever I think. Plus their aims aren’t going to he winning Scuedettos or anything immediately so punching above their weight getting into the top 4 will be a more realistic goal and certainly one which is a possibility, will be interesting for sure. Conte, Mourinho and maybe Allegri in the same league it Juve reappoint him? 

Edited May 4, 2021 by OneMoSalah

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Damn, the man just never gives up or he is desperate I dont know.

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Interesting. I thought Jose was going to give it a shot for the Juventus job since Pirlo is close to being sacked. Roma doesn't feel like a big enough club like the ones Jose is usually interested in managing, but probably with his recent failures his stocks have dropped and that's about the best he can do at this point.