The Mourinho Thread

[jernej93 569]

The thing is, whether right or wrong, Mourinho has tried a lot of things to get a reaction from the players and none have worked. He's backed them to the hilt (e.g. Costa) and still doesn't get anything. He's criticized them and still doesn't get anything. At this point, he's probably taking things further up a notch and see it if works. And if it doesn't, then he's surely dragged those under-performers down with him.

Tried a lot of things? He is playing with same starting 11 and same 4-2-3-1 rigid approach all season ...

[Jase 43,479]

Tried a lot of things? He is playing with same starting 11 and same 4-2-3-1 rigid approach all season ...

Wasn't even talking about tactics, formation...

[Darogba 112]

What the hell are they waiting for?

[MefiX19 1,092]

I think they want to have good replacement for him, than he will be sacked.

Btw. How's my new avatar?

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Now he thinks there's a mole in the squad that has leaked the line-ups prior to the Porto and Leicester games. Jesus Christ! He couldn't have had a similar season to his 3rd one in Madrid even if he had tried to, could he?

[BXL70 396]

How could Chelsea find a good replacement given that there is nothing left to save for the rest of the season (forget the CL and the top 4) and that he could be sacked 6 months later just because some players have decided so?

[manpe 10,861]

Now he thinks there's a mole in the squad that has leaked the line-ups prior to the Porto and Leicester games. Jesus Christ! He couldn't have had a similar season to his 3rd one in Madrid even if he had tried to, could he?

Source?

[DYC. 7,542]

Mourinho in survival mode, haha. I originally wanted to ignore everything involving this subject but I came across it anyway, damn internet, and I just can't help myself. His passion comments are priceless. It's such hogwash. He's playing the crowd, making full use of his god-like status in the eyes of many Chelsea fans. He knows that word is something that hits the hearts of many football fans, especially in English football. And unsurprsingly, it has hit home with many fans. People who are actually watching the games start to see a team that is 'not trying and doesn't care'. Nonsense. They are running, they are defending, they are attacking. It's just not working. Nothing is working. There was no difference in terms of effort in the games vs Porto and Leicester. The matches were different though. Football is and always will be a game that is decided by the slightest of details and margins.

'Passion' - better known as excessive running and tough tackling, let's not kid ourselves - doesn't win you jack. If so, British nations and the likes of Ireland, Turkey, Uruguay, Ghana, Australia and many other countries would be extremely succesful. Wenger's early Arsenal team didn't win because of passion. Mourinho's first Chelsea team wasn't succesful because of passion. Passion wasn't the staple of Ferguson's dominance of English football. They won because they played good football. Quality and calculated football. That's it. More passion wouldn't have caused Chelsea to leap up from 16th to 6th on the table. That 16th place is the result of terrible football.

Never expected Mourinho to stoop so low. I always saw him as man who knew that if he gets sacked at whatever job, he'll easily get another top job and be succesful again. So these kinds of desperate attempts - throwing players under the bus, publicly bluffing the club and putting himself on such a high pedestal - would never be necessary. But I guess this is just him trying to save his job. The circumstances seem to be different this time. I think it's because he's in such a terrible situation right now. Going out like this is a big dent on his rep, despite his past succes.

His time is up imo. The candle is flickering and the wax is almost completely melted. This experience does not make him a bad manager but this isn't working. You'd have to create a new team every two, three years because every team would eventually lack passion, balls and vaginas and betray his work. That's not how football works. You can get longevity out of the core of a group with two or three managers at the helm over a 5 to 10 year span.

I don't understand why such a big deal is made of him being a short term manager btw. The vast majority of managers are short term so it's not a bad thing. He'll be fine.

[Fernando 6,585]

Mourinho in survival mode, haha. I originally wanted to ignore everything involving this subject but I came across it anyway, damn internet, and I just can't help myself. His passion comments are priceless. It's such hogwash. He's playing the crowd, making full use of his god-like status in the eyes of many Chelsea fans. He knows that word is something that hits the hearts of many football fans, especially in English football. And unsurprsingly, it has hit home with many fans. People who are actually watching the games start to see a team that is 'not trying and doesn't care'. Nonsense. They are running, they are defending, they are attacking. It's just not working. Nothing is working. There was no difference in terms of effort in the games vs Porto and Leicester. The matches were different though. Football is and always will be a game that is decided by the slightest of details and margins.

'Passion' - better known as excessive running and tough tackling, let's not kid ourselves - doesn't win you jack. If so, British nations and the likes of Ireland, Turkey, Uruguay, Ghana, Australia and many other countries would be extremely succesful. Wenger's early Arsenal team didn't win because of passion. Mourinho's first Chelsea team wasn't succesful because of passion. Passion wasn't the staple of Ferguson's dominance of English football. They won because they played good football. Quality and calculated football. That's it. More passion wouldn't have caused Chelsea to leap up from 16th to 6th on the table. That 16th place is the result of terrible football.

Never expected Mourinho to stoop so low. I always saw him as man who knew that if he gets sacked at whatever job, he'll easily get another top job and be succesful again. So these kinds of desperate attempts - throwing players under the bus, publicly bluffing the club and putting himself on such a high pedestal - would never be necessary. But I guess this is just him trying to save his job. The circumstances seem to be different this time. I think it's because he's in such a terrible situation right now. Going out like this is a big dent on his rep, despite his past succes.

His time is up imo. The candle is flickering and the wax is almost completely melted. This experience does not make him a bad manager but this isn't working. You'd have to create a new team every two, three years because every team would eventually lack passion, balls and vaginas and betray his work. That's not how football works. You can get longevity out of the core of a group with two or three managers at the helm over a 5 to 10 year span.

I don't understand why such a big deal is made of him being a short term manager btw. The vast majority of managers are short term so it's not a bad thing. He'll be fine.

I remember Henrique mentioning something similar happen to Ariggo Sachi and Fabio Capello.

They was awesome in their time, but then they just faded.

This is an interesting topic that requires further study.

I think the problem is that everyone thinks that they can do a Ferguson, but that was once in a blue moon. We might never see something like that again in our lifetime.....well you can say Wenger, but that's not nearly close to what Ferguson did.

[Darogba 112]

Apparently Ramos's agent is in London right now so things finally happening.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Apparently Ramos's agent is in London right now so things finally happening.

source? Don't say twitter

[Costa19 858]

Ramos.. just wow. Benitez, Ramos... Wtf have we turned into?

[Darogba 112]

source? Don't say twitter

Richard keys on Twitter.

[Fernando 6,585]

Ramos.. just wow. Benitez, Ramos... Wtf have we turned into?

Well with Benitez it wasn't that bad when he left.

Started crap and finish good. I liked the vibe back then before the "One Of Us" took over and screw up everything.

[didierforever 7,349]

jose has made mistakes, a lot of mistakes, a lot and lot of mistakes, but the more i think of it, the more i feel, we should not sack him because of cunts like cesc, costa and bang average no gooders like oscar.

[mediator 2,026]

Well with Benitez it wasn't that bad when he left.

Started crap and finish good. I liked the vibe back then before the "One Of Us" took over and screw up everything.

I would swap mourinho for Rafa right now

[Pizy 18,953]

Imagine sacking José Mourinho for Juande Ramos...

[Tautvix 1,321]

They can sack Jose but appoint Juande Ramos? Pathetic if it's true.

[Cosmin 2,484]

Honestly, I don't think it would be that tragic to appoint Ramos. All that matters is what the players want. The board could aswell appoint me and it would be the same thing. These players are mature enough to bounce back, but it's pretty obvious that they do not want to work with Jose anymore. Whoever comes will have an easy mission. Things can't get much worse than they already are. If Mou leaves, the players won again. And if the players win, their confidence will be back and surely the results will improve a lot, no matter who the manager will be.

But the main problem is that these players can win this fight, but the club can't allow them to be here for the next one. During these months, some of them proved that they are not good enough for Chelsea, while others proved that their ego is bigger than their professionalism. Only a few deserve to be here for the next season.

[Kieran. 6,317]

I'm fucking done for the season should we appoint Ramos to take over from Jose Mourinho. That would be a farce to say the least...