🇪🇸 Pedro Rodríguez

[Tomo 21,751]

19 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Reading the thread it's clear that mine is not a common opinion, but I really like Pedro.

He is a purpose built tiki-taka player in a team that generally speaking couldn't play tiki-taka against a bunch of 16 year-olds. We all want to see dramatic improvements to the squad over the summer. If that happens Pedro will fit in rather better than he does now. I hope those improvements happen, and I hope Pedro stays.

I'm not suggesting that tiki-taka is Chelsea's future but a team with better possession players who can move the ball more quickly, and with greater accuracy, will take better advantage of what Pedro brings.

Thankgod I thought I was going insane for a while.

It's worth noting that similar things were being said about Costa before Christmas, post after post after post writing him off, forgetting what he gives at his best, and honestly I think in a lot of cases this is happening with Pedro, although unlike with Diego couple months back, we haven't yet had the benefit of an on form Pedro for a sustained period.

I widely mock Arsenal fans for forming their opinions on their players and Wenger on current form or in some cases the last result, but really are some of our fellow fans much better?

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, bellion said:

I am of the opposite view.  I firmly believe that the Board will repeat the same pathetic fiasco of last summer by missing out on top quality players all in the name of FFP or whatever BS financial reason.  On top of that, our best players like Hazard and Costa will in all probability, be sold.  Hence, with a depleted squad worthy of a bottom half club and playing slow and turgid football, there is no place for Pedro.  He's better off in some other club where as you stated, plays fluid attacking football.

They could fuck up like last summer, but they could also pull off a masterstroke summer ala 2014/2012.

Our board isn't perfect, but reading these sheer conspiracy theories about how they are plotting to ruin the club is hilarious, its like listening to my 10 year old cousion thinking the whole family hate him when he's told he can't have something.

Edited February 8, 2016 by Tomo

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

1 hour ago, bellion said:

I am of the opposite view.  I firmly believe that the Board will repeat the same pathetic fiasco of last summer by missing out on top quality players all in the name of FFP or whatever BS financial reason.  On top of that, our best players like Hazard and Costa will in all probability, be sold.  Hence, with a depleted squad worthy of a bottom half club and playing slow and turgid football, there is no place for Pedro.  He's better off in some other club where as you stated, plays fluid attacking football.

You may be right but this would in no way be opposite to what I said.

[chelseafan26 293]

Moses is better for US than pedro.

He just is not suited for us. His stepovers are pointless to say the least.

Whats worse is that I cant see Hazard being here for the next season, oscar and pedro are not even top 4 PL material. We are in for years of disappointment and mediocrity the way we have set ourselves up.

[Henrique 9,133]

3 hours ago, Tomo said:

Thankgod I thought I was going insane for a while.

It's worth noting that similar things were being said about Costa before Christmas, post after post after post writing him off, forgetting what he gives at his best, and honestly I think in a lot of cases this is happening with Pedro, although unlike with Diego couple months back, we haven't yet had the benefit of an on form Pedro for a sustained period.

I widely mock Arsenal fans for forming their opinions on their players and Wenger on current form or in some cases the last result, but really are some of our fellow fans much better?

Really embarrassing to compare people talking bad words about Pedro, with people who talked about Costa. Costa did great in Lá Liga with a side that is not as flamboyant as Barcelona, and he was eaily their main man for 13/14 Atlético's epic season. Costa was great for the 1st half of 14/15 season, and yes, he started this season pretty bad, but his problem was more related with being more concerned about starting fights, and lacking desire on the pitch (people thought about Fabregas and Hazard Having problems with Mourinho, but I'm sure Costa had big problems with José, his body language and effort really changes after Mourinho was sacked).

To other what you can say about Pedro? Did you really watched Barcelona games or just the most hyped ones, like El Clássico and Chapions League Finals? Do you remember a great game that Pedro played for Spain NT?

If you watched Barcelona's games, it was clear Pedro wasn't in the same level as the likes of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Henry, Ronaldinho, Eoo, Giouly or Deco, the attacking players I can remember of the Barcelona great sides of recent years. He was that decent player, that could converte some chances of his amazing side, but never a "key" player.

Playing for Chelsea he looks embarrasing, and I think its really strange that some people believe that there is a "tik taka player". He is not tik taka player, he is just a limited guy with Barcelona's brand on his CV,

[bellion 170]

3 hours ago, Tomo said:

They could fuck up like last summer, but they could also pull off a masterstroke summer ala 2014/2012.

Our board isn't perfect, but reading these sheer conspiracy theories about how they are plotting to ruin the club is hilarious, its like listening to my 10 year old cousion thinking the whole family hate him when he's told he can't have something.

Are fans actually believing that the Board is running the club intentionally? I don't.  However, their actions even if it's good for showy profits will damage the club on the field and ironically will further hurt profits.

[Tomo 21,751]

On 08/02/2016 at 8:29 AM, Henrique said:

Really embarrassing to compare people talking bad words about Pedro, with people who talked about Costa. Costa did great in Lá Liga with a side that is not as flamboyant as Barcelona, and he was eaily their main man for 13/14 Atlético's epic season. Costa was great for the 1st half of 14/15 season, and yes, he started this season pretty bad, but his problem was more related with being more concerned about starting fights, and lacking desire on the pitch (people thought about Fabregas and Hazard Having problems with Mourinho, but I'm sure Costa had big problems with José, his body language and effort really changes after Mourinho was sacked).

To other what you can say about Pedro? Did you really watched Barcelona games or just the most hyped ones, like El Clássico and Chapions League Finals? Do you remember a great game that Pedro played for Spain NT?

If you watched Barcelona's games, it was clear Pedro wasn't in the same level as the likes of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Henry, Ronaldinho, Eoo, Giouly or Deco, the attacking players I can remember of the Barcelona great sides of recent years. He was that decent player, that could converte some chances of his amazing side, but never a "key" player.

Playing for Chelsea he looks embarrasing, and I think its really strange that some people believe that there is a "tik taka player". He is not tik taka player, he is just a limited guy with Barcelona's brand on his CV,

I made a lengthy reply to this but internet cut me off and deleted everything, I'll write it up again in next couple of days.

[Jase 43,479]

Took his two goals well today. The second one, especially, was a cracking finish. Was mentally screaming 'WHY IS HE SHOOTING FROM THAT FAR OUT?!' just before he scored.

[the wes 7,212]

50 minutes ago, Jason said:

Took his two goals well today. The second one, especially, was a cracking finish. Was mentally screaming 'WHY IS HE SHOOTING FROM THAT FAR OUT?!' just before he scored.

That's the Pedro we have been waiting for ? I hope there's more to come from Pedro

[The Skipper 20,609]

He's a good finisher when he grasps the ball well but he can be frustrating sometimes. Hope he gets into form soon as well. 

[Henrique 9,133]

Perhaps he is our new Kalou. Limited, but still can score at least 10 goals per season.

[DDA 9,938]

12 hours ago, Henrique said:

Perhaps he is our new Kalou. Limited, but still can score at least 10 goals per season.

Nobody is our new Kalou. Kalou is Kalou. Pedro is Pedro!

[Jase 43,479]

Pedro comes good against Newcastle to give Chelsea boost for their pivotal week

One interesting stat from the article...

The flip side, however, is that quicker transitions and longer passes allow dynamic players more opportunities to win the ball. And for all Chelsea’s problems, Pedro has been doing that more this season (2.86 ball recoveries per 90 minutes) than he did at Barcelona. There his tackles and interceptions per 90 minutes were 2010-11, 2.12; 2011-12, 2.29; 2012-13, 1.81; 2013-14, 2.04; 2014-15, 1.65; 2015-16, 2.86.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Won't be up against the awful back-line of Newcastle every week though. Loved his goals on Saturday but want to see a lot more from him.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

On 14/02/2016 at 4:46 AM, Henrique said:

Perhaps he is our new Kalou. Limited, but still can score at least 10 goals per season.

 

He is versatile, a standard 7/10 player, and works hard for the team. Why not? This is his debut season where he has struggled with poor form and fitness. Under proper management and once he has acclimatised, he could be a Malouda/Anelka/Kalou-esque squad player who can give us 10-15 a season.

[chelseafan26 293]

31 minutes ago, BlueLion said:

 

He is versatile, a standard 7/10 player, and works hard for the team. Why not? This is his debut season where he has struggled with poor form and fitness. Under proper management and once he has acclimatised, he could be a Malouda/Anelka/Kalou-esque squad player who can give us 10-15 a season.

I respect Kalou-Malouda-Anelka for all that they did for us in the past. BUT, they were 3 of the most frustrating players to watch. Just like pedro is. Also, lets be real, we are ALWAYS going to have management issues. Our one solution to that problem was stupidly cast aside by the board. Also, we have some exceptional talents in our ranks. The likes of kenedy/musonda/boga are worth taking a risk on rather than having pedro in the squad.

[kiwi1691 255]

2 minutes ago, chelseafan26 said:

Our one solution to that problem was stupidly cast aside by the board. 

Carlo's sacking was sad, but it's been years, you need to get over it.

[chelseafan26 293]

Just now, kiwi1691 said:

Carlo's sacking was sad, but it's been years, you need to get over it.

I had obviously meant JOSE MOURINHO. But I can see that this forum not only dislikes him but almost tends to "hate" when talking about a person who is a legend to the club. I think you are going to disrespect him more, so I really dont want to be a part of this conversation.

[kiwi1691 255]

9 hours ago, chelseafan26 said:

I had obviously meant JOSE MOURINHO. But I can see that this forum not only dislikes him but almost tends to "hate" when talking about a person who is a legend to the club. I think you are going to disrespect him more, so I really dont want to be a part of this conversation.

 

Jose has proven he is not a long-term manager.

The Jose from his first spell at Chelsea is dead. Jose used to be the greatest tactician in the game, the way his teams could beat much better teams was amazing. This season he kept playing under Performing players and  continued with tactics that didn't work, demonstrating the old Jose we loved is gone. 

I will always respect Jose for what he has done for this club, he is Chelsea's greatest ever manager. People cannot continue to make excuses, Jose stuffed up in so many ways, he had to go. Roman respected him and kept him in the job longer than he would have any-other manager that stuffed up so badly. If Jose was still here relegation would still be a possibility, which would be disastrous for this club financially. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Good performance, very industrious as well as a threat going forward, although at times he lost Di Maria going back the way but neat and tidy in possession, rarely gave it away and had a decent half chance if you want to call it that at the end. I think he and Willian have to start our next game for sure, the third slot is a choice between Hazard, Oscar or Kenedy as Hazard wasn't good, Oscar didn't have enough time and Kenedy has impressed in bursts this year but I don't know why he hasn't been in the squad recently.