lucio 5,418 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 15 minutes ago, manpe said: He can't get a minute against Scunthorpe at home, he's shit. I fail to see any other explanations. the manager wrongly prefers ivanovic? not everyone gets the chance they deserve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Just now, lucio said: the manager wrongly prefers ivanovic? not everyone gets the chance they deserve This is now the second manager who does that. In some way our chances of winning must be greater with Ivanovic however implausible it sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Was KDB shit? Lol don't worry Baba is bound to get his chance in the future. Ivanovic will play very bad at some particular point quickpassnmove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, manpe said: This is now the second manager who does that. In some way our chances of winning must be greater with Ivanovic however implausible it sounds. mourinho loved him, and hiddink signed him iirc. doesn't make them right. having proper fullbacks would obviously benefit the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, lucio said: and hiddink signed him iirc. No he didn't. Btw my comments about Baba being shit are sarcastic, I just can't wrap my mind around his situation if he isn't injured. Doesn't Ivanovic at his age at this point of the season having played as much as he has, need a rest once in a while? Oh well, we won so can't complain much, but I just don't understand it. This is the greatest mystery ever for me. Blue Armour and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 1 hour ago, manpe said: No he didn't. Btw my comments about Baba being shit are sarcastic, I just can't wrap my mind around his situation if he isn't injured. Doesn't Ivanovic at his age at this point of the season having played as much as he has, need a rest once in a while? Oh well, we won so can't complain much, but I just don't understand it. This is the greatest mystery ever for me. This. At least for the sake of rotation, Baba deserves a look-in from Hiddink. Today, Kennedy, RLC and Traore finally got their much deserved game time..., so step forward in the right direction perhaps with Baba getting in on the act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 It's gone a bit unnoticed due to the desperation for Ivanovic to be dropped but aside from Dynamo Kiev at home, Baba hasn't been very good atall when he has played. He's young so hes got time yes, but right now taking off Ivanovic and putting Baba in will only result in one change and that's the side of the pitch that opposition managers will target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Unsure what we've spent the 21M on tbf, he has rarely played and when he has has flattered to deceive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MefiX19 1,092 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 10 hours ago, Tomo said: It's gone a bit unnoticed due to the desperation for Ivanovic to be dropped but aside from Dynamo Kiev at home, Baba hasn't been very good atall when he has played. He's young so hes got time yes, but right now taking off Ivanovic and putting Baba in will only result in one change and that's the side of the pitch that opposition managers will target. No, we will finally move Azpi to RB, that means that attacking wise we will be allot stronger, Baba is really fast and good crosser, and if Costa gonna stay in the box, we will see alot of headers. Azpi in Rb is gonna attack better, put more crosses with his right, not trying to try something with his left or just try to put the ball on his right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 10 hours ago, Tomo said: It's gone a bit unnoticed due to the desperation for Ivanovic to be dropped but aside from Dynamo Kiev at home, Baba hasn't been very good atall when he has played. He's young so hes got time yes, but right now taking off Ivanovic and putting Baba in will only result in one change and that's the side of the pitch that opposition managers will target. Not sure I agree entirely. Baba needs minutes on the pitch, he's adjusting to a league that is played at a frenetic pace and was also asked to be apart of a squad that lost its identity, not exactly the easiest thing to walk in on... I think he will come good but its hard to see that come to fruition given the limited looks he's getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 hour ago, MefiX19 said: No, we will finally move Azpi to RB, that means that attacking wise we will be allot stronger, Baba is really fast and good crosser, and if Costa gonna stay in the box, we will see alot of headers. Azpi in Rb is gonna attack better, put more crosses with his right, not trying to try something with his left or just try to put the ball on his right. Azpi struggles go in forward is widely exaggerated and wasmore down to instructions by Jose, since Guus has come in he's nearly scored twice and provided Ruben with an assist. 1 hour ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Not sure I agree entirely. Baba needs minutes on the pitch, he's adjusting to a league that is played at a frenetic pace and was also asked to be apart of a squad that lost its identity, not exactly the easiest thing to walk in on... I think he will come good but its hard to see that come to fruition given the limited looks he's getting. I defiantly agree, but right now he's struggling and easing him in This season is the right thing, you only need to see Scott Carson as proof of how one bad moment even can affect a career, if I had the choice between Ivan or Baba getting torn apart by wingers right now, id choose Ivan, hes in the twilight of his career, Baba having regular bad experiences could affect him going forward. Chelsea Legend 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Not sure why we went ahead and bought him during the summer. Clear to see he has ability, but the people that make the decisions don't believe in him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 There is no player section for Jay Dasilva but hopefully someone makes one soon as I cba but Dasilva is going to be a top LB and hopefully at us. He was up against Andros Townsend tonight and performed very well. Townsend caused him a few problems which should be expected of and had a good game but Jay was quality in his own way as well. Put in a couple great tackles and scored an absolute great goal with his weaker foot. Game ended 5-4 to us. Brilliant game. Probably not ready for first team right now but in future, he has got all the capabilities to be a top LB. Watched him several times in the U21 and regularly impresses me. Very diminutive though but hopefully that is not too much of a problem. Wrote it in here because Baba is also young and a LB Muzchap and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 12 hours ago, Stats said: There is no player section for Jay Dasilva but hopefully someone makes one soon as I cba but Dasilva is going to be a top LB and hopefully at us. He was up against Andros Townsend tonight and performed very well. Townsend caused him a few problems which should be expected of and had a good game but Jay was quality in his own way as well. Put in a couple great tackles and scored an absolute great goal with his weaker foot. Game ended 5-4 to us. Brilliant game. Probably not ready for first team right now but in future, he has got all the capabilities to be a top LB. Watched him several times in the U21 and regularly impresses me. Very diminutive though but hopefully that is not too much of a problem. Wrote it in here because Baba is also young and a LB Another Chelsea fan site held a poll in April last year asking which youth prospect was most likely to make it to Chelsea first team level. Jay got my vote. His talent is immense but there is no escaping the fact that his diminutive stature increases the challenge he faces in breaking through. My selection didn't change the fact that, between them, Jay and Charlie Colkett collected less than 1.5% of the nominations in that poll. This suggests to me that most of the votes were cast by people who don't actually watch our development squads play. Stats and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Another Chelsea fan site held a poll in April last year asking which youth prospect was most likely to make it to Chelsea first team level. Jay got my vote. His talent is immense but there is no escaping the fact that his diminutive stature increases the challenge he faces in breaking through. My selection didn't change the fact that, between them, Jay and Charlie Colkett collected less than 1.5% of the nominations in that poll. This suggests to me that most of the votes were cast by people who don't actually watch our development squads play. Definitely agree. The thing is because it is rare for our talented youth players to break through, many don't bother to look out for our prospects and listen out for the one talked most by fellow supporters and the media. If Jay was taller I would have him as a definite to make it tbh and although he is a tough nut, he struggles against really powerful and direct wingers. Going forward he is excellent and bar when he is up against powerful wingers, his defensive game his generally strong. I don't think Colkett will make it too. He is a talented young player but I think his game is too limited to make it at us. He would struggle with the pace of the PL, imo and would certainly not be ready for a few years. I see a similar player to Josh but difference is Josh is good with the ball whereas Colkett is pretty much a dictater. Actually similar to Baker in some ways but not on his level. Baker is stronger as well. Will be interesting though. There are several talented players in the youth team. Palmer is impressing me more and more this season and has stepped up in Boga's absence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Chelsea defender Baba Rahman: It's frustrating to watch from the stands... I don't want to experience that any longerhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3397371/Chelsea-defender-Baba-Rahman-s-frustrating-watch-stands-don-t-want-experience-longer.html#ixzz3x8GwuBFc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3397371/Chelsea-defender-Baba-Rahman-s-frustrating-watch-stands-don-t-want-experience-longer.html Happening too often now, just let the lad go and be done with it. Not going to get any playing while Ivanovic and Azpi are fit so fucking sell him, the lads wants to play and we aren't the team that can offer it. mediator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 hour ago, mediator said: Chelsea defender Baba Rahman: It's frustrating to watch from the stands... I don't want to experience that any longerhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3397371/Chelsea-defender-Baba-Rahman-s-frustrating-watch-stands-don-t-want-experience-longer.html#ixzz3x8GwuBFc Then he should up his game, he has been awful every time bar the Kiev game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted January 13, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Tomo said: Then he should up his game, he has been awful every time bar the Kiev game. You always sugarcoat Ivanovic's performances but him you call awful. Come on, Tomo. Kieran., bethos1, LemmeBorrowThat and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I guess Papy didn't complain yet because we sacrificed him to the god of football and dumped his body in the outskirts of london long ago.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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