James Rodríguez

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

9 hours ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

But he is/was. In this market, 60M is a minimum for a player of his calibre.

The point I was making is that if our squad builders share your opinion that James is worth £60 million then, fine, go-ahead and make the deal. If however, they think that the man is overpriced for what he offers, then that shouldn't change simply because they have a load of Chinese money they weren't expecting.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

6 hours ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

There's no going back, it will only get worse, if we don't pay, PSG/City/United will, that's it.

If the player concerned is not worth the cost of his transfer, then let them. You know what will happen if we allow our rivals to waste money on sub-premium players? They'll end up in the same fine mess Premier League clubs have dug themselves into.

Never have Premier League clubs spent more money than they are doing currently, yet, relative to their continental counterparts, they are nowhere near as good as they were 10 years ago. If you simply keep spending more and more money on the same calibre of players, how do you expect to improve?

In fact, over time, you will end up spending more money for worse players. This is because the clubs to which you are shelling out all of this transfer largess will use that windfall to increase the wages of the good players they want to keep. The pool of talent which is available to you will shrink and you will end up paying higher transfer fees for a lower rank of footballer.

Money works for football clubs if they invest it wisely.

[Beigl 1,387]

If anything we should have gone for Gotze last summer, who is superior to James. But in truth both of them don't fit our current system at all, because we need a workhorse on the wing, like Alexis Sanchez.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

6 hours ago, Chelsea? said:

lol it's been 17 games. I doubt united regret their decision yet. 

I know and perhaps long term he will end up one of their best players.

Im just saying that if you pay 70m for someone, it doesnt mean you will get such good player who will give you great results.

Football is 11 men sport and I rather bring someone that fits the squad and coach, than sign overrated player just because he is big name in football and people ''believe'' he can improve and win you games. 

[quickpassnmove 924]

Conte hasn't even had a "big" signing yet at Chelsea, so this one would be a terrible bust for the manager when Rodriguez comes up with every excuse for why he can't hack it in the Prem. NO.

You wanna break the bank for a player, go with Verratti. Known quantity, what we need to get our possession game up to the next level and the manager likes this kind of true CM.

[Barbara 15,149]

7 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

If the player concerned is not worth the cost of his transfer, then let them. You know what will happen if we allow our rivals to waste money on sub-premium players? They'll end up in the same fine mess Premier League clubs have dug themselves into.

Never have Premier League clubs spent more money than they are doing currently, yet, relative to their continental counterparts, they are nowhere near as good as they were 10 years ago. If you simply keep spending more and more money on the same calibre of players, how do you expect to improve?

In fact, over time, you will end up spending more money for worse players. This is because the clubs to which you are shelling out all of this transfer largess will use that windfall to increase the wages of the good players they want to keep. The pool of talent which is available to you will shrink and you will end up paying higher transfer fees for a lower rank of footballer.

Money works for football clubs if they invest it wisely.

There's a big flaw in your analysis. You didn't give it time. At this rate English football will dominate again, but those things take time and good administration. I have no doubt we will soon be at the top again. 

It's going to be more and more difficult for teams with less investment to go far in Europe. We need to catch up and that's investing. English teams have the funds now, not spending it with very top players won't take them anywhere. Football became this. Organized teams with less investment can have a fluke now and then and reach finals or fight for titles up to a few weeks before the end of the season. They will win nothing and those chances are going to happen less and less. 

The problem with England isn't how much they've been investing, but the lack of a well founded plan. 

[Unionjack 7,531]

This is the 1st proper transfer window Contes had with us. IF the story is to be believed that he gave the board his wants list when he came (Bonucci,Nainggolan,Manolas) then none of them came off and considering we presumed all the Italian players would jump for a chance to play for him we was wrong.

So we shall see IF he wants any new players and what direction hes going to go in.

Now me I'm not sure if James would fit. I'd like to think he would. But I do think that we need to pay whatever thr prices are if we are going to get players that we truly need.

Conte doesn't seem like a daft bloke so I cant see him wanting to buy shit. What I would like to see is him buy the players HE wants and have the board behind him. Instead of Emenalo and others buying players the manager just isn't bothered with for 1 reason or another and have them collecting rust.

I know it would never happen but I'd love to know who is behind whichever player we signed so we got some idea how our transfer politics worked..

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

1 hour ago, Barbara said:

There's a big flaw in your analysis. You didn't give it time. At this rate English football will dominate again, but those things take time and good administration. I have no doubt we will soon be at the top again. 

It's going to be more and more difficult for teams with less investment to go far in Europe. We need to catch up and that's investing. English teams have the funds now, not spending it with very top players won't take them anywhere. Football became this. Organized teams with less investment can have a fluke now and then and reach finals or fight for titles up to a few weeks before the end of the season. They will win nothing and those chances are going to happen less and less. 

The problem with England isn't how much they've been investing, but the lack of a well founded plan. 

I thought that was what I said. :-) 

Paying premium prices for premium players is the right way to use financial muscle. Paying premium prices for sub-premium players is the right way to waste a lot of money, and make your rivals better.

[quickpassnmove 924]

I'm glad we now have Kante, but IMO, we need this kind of player and NOT James: http://www.givemesport.com/944588-paul-scholes-names-three-midfielders-who-can-control-matches-for-90-minutes?autoplay=on&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Organic-Social&utm_campaign=Tribute-Pages-laika-III-1sted

[Last Sicarius 610]

We now have Oscar so just make bid  for him... 

[the wes 7,212]

On 25/06/2014 at 1:38 PM, Rmpr said:

Neymar has played better than both...

We could have Neymar joining chelsea before Pele open his mouth telling him not to joining chelsea picture Neymar hazard Costa in the same team that trio would destroy the PL 

[Socur Toxanarosa 145]

17 hours ago, Beigl said:

If anything we should have gone for Gotze last summer, who is superior to James. But in truth both of them don't fit our current system at all, because we need a workhorse on the wing, like Alexis Sanchez.

You're kidding, right? Gotze is shit.

[Socur Toxanarosa 145]

5 hours ago, quickpassnmove said:

I'm glad we now have Kante, but IMO, we need this kind of player and NOT James: http://www.givemesport.com/944588-paul-scholes-names-three-midfielders-who-can-control-matches-for-90-minutes?autoplay=on&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Organic-Social&utm_campaign=Tribute-Pages-laika-III-1sted

We need both.

[Chelsea? 892]

2 hours ago, the wes said:

We could have Neymar joining chelsea before Pele open his mouth telling him not to joining chelsea picture Neymar hazard Costa in the same team that trio would destroy the PL 

Idk if Neymar's workrate is good enough for some on here. Hazards would be either if he weren't already a Chelsea player 

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

19 hours ago, Beigl said:

If anything we should have gone for Gotze last summer, who is superior to James. But in truth both of them don't fit our current system at all, because we need a workhorse on the wing, like Alexis Sanchez.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Strike 7,217]

No doubt I would love to have a dribbler, creator who can  shoulder the attacking responsibility and reduce the burden on Hazard but 60m or upwards for James Rodriguez would be a waste of the money generated from the Oscar deal. 

There are a LOT of better, proven, consistent options in the market for that price. Pass.

[Beigl 1,387]

You're kidding, right? Gotze is shit.

As I said he wouldn't fit our system at all, but under the right circumstances he has potential to be world class, like in Dortmund. He ripped the Bundesliga apart at a very young age, so he is hardly 'shit'. And yes he is better than overrated James Rodriguez.

[mediator 2,026]

We can't splash 75m£ on someone that's won't 100% fit what we want as a winger.

That's premium price, and he isn't a winger. Just splash the cash on Dybala