Laylabelle 9,535 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Not magic anymore.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 26 minutes ago, The Skipper said: He’s not a bad option off the bench tbh. I think that’s what we need to use him as - like Conte did last season. At this point, it feels like we're just clutching at straws. Maybe Fabregas is starting to go over the hill, if not already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, Miki-Liki said: Or because they wouldn't have managed to find another one anyway, I mean, we'd probably have ended up with Joe Allen. Why not? We don't even need to find another midfielder that is creative as some Fabregas-type player. Someone like Koke or Rakitić (don't know are those two in form, but that kind of player), that should be enough. But no, we have CF4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: Not magic anymore.  You know what they say about magicians...frauds. Harsh on Cesc but yeah, theres so much average about him and the worst is he managed to hide it for ages. Been saying that since his first year here. He offers nothing besides passing and even thats two great passes per game. No backbone, no character, no defensive work. As a central midfielder thats one big fucking liability. Its time for him to be benched or sold. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 It's time for him to take a seat on the bench and quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 12 hours ago, The Skipper said: Worst I’ve ever seen him play. Looked like an OAP out there. Oap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 hours ago, manpe said: Oap? Oap means old age pensioner manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,052 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Should be nowhere near the starting XI for a good while the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 His general passing has gone to shit. Literally has become a liability on the ball now. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 And this is why he didn't replace Matic last season even though the Serbian was poor. Hopefully Kante and Drinkwater remain fit and he's back in the role he occupied last season. Fernando, Mufassir08 and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Players who started their career at very young age burn out later on in their career I think fabregas is going the same way has Rooney and Owen did I think it's time to sell fabregas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,704 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I feel his style of play slows us down and sends us in the wrong direction. Those balls over the top are great at times, but it seems as if our whole team plays to that. I'm watching City, Tottenham and Liverpool break teams down to a certain extent with quick, short, sharp passes, and then we are in our own little unique group. I wouldn't call it hoof ball, but it is certainly similar. Instead of passing the ball around the 18 yard box, we pass it around much deeper than most good teams, then Fabs sits on the outside and tries to pin point passes from 30 or 40 yards instead of 10 yard balls over the top. We have all these quick players like Morata, Hazard, Pedro, Willian, Musonda, Kante, Baka, etc, but we don't feel like a quick team. I honestly think a large part of it is this almost necessity to play through Fabs when he is on the field. I said it in the game thread recently, but watching the likes of Eriksen makes you kinda wish we had what Tottenham has in that role. Won't even mention KDB because that is long gone. Amblève. and manpe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 7 hours ago, Thor said: Instead of passing the ball around the 18 yard box, we pass it around much deeper than most good teams Tbh we did it to devastating effect last season. This season teams are closing us down much better and we can't enjoy the freedom around the box we did last season. That, plus the fact we seem more static and laborious in our movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 8 hours ago, Thor said: I feel his style of play slows us down and sends us in the wrong direction. Those balls over the top are great at times, but it seems as if our whole team plays to that. I'm watching City, Tottenham and Liverpool break teams down to a certain extent with quick, short, sharp passes, and then we are in our own little unique group. I wouldn't call it hoof ball, but it is certainly similar. Instead of passing the ball around the 18 yard box, we pass it around much deeper than most good teams, then Fabs sits on the outside and tries to pin point passes from 30 or 40 yards instead of 10 yard balls over the top. We have all these quick players like Morata, Hazard, Pedro, Willian, Musonda, Kante, Baka, etc, but we don't feel like a quick team. I honestly think a large part of it is this almost necessity to play through Fabs when he is on the field. I said it in the game thread recently, but watching the likes of Eriksen makes you kinda wish we had what Tottenham has in that role. Won't even mention KDB because that is long gone. I disagree. His playstyle is not a problem His problem is the fact that he cannot run as midfielder and that is a massive problem. In order to play quick short passes, everyone, and I mean everyone has to be comfortable on the ball. That include your cb even your gk. I am not sure Baka is that comfortable playing that way yet, the same can be said for Gary Cahill. We actually play similar to spurs 343. If you are talking about eriksen role, Hazard is playing that role for our team. He is the chief creator and he has the license to roam around. Hazard just play it differently because he is a different player.  Leif, DYC., kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 hours ago, communicate said: I disagree. His playstyle is not a problem His problem is the fact that he cannot run as midfielder and that is a massive problem. In order to play quick short passes, everyone, and I mean everyone has to be comfortable on the ball. That include your cb even your gk. I am not sure Baka is that comfortable playing that way yet, the same can be said for Gary Cahill. We actually play similar to spurs 343. If you are talking about eriksen role, Hazard is playing that role for our team. He is the chief creator and he has the license to roam around. Hazard just play it differently because he is a different player.  All spurs defenders are ball playing, their wingbacks are fast, can dribble, can cross their midfielders have energy to run and are okay in passing, their striker is the best in hold up play in Europe right now. On top of that, did you see how they press? Tottenham don't sit back like us, but press their opponents. Thats why they look fluid in 3-4-3 while we look gassed out. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just watched his pre-United interview, he said: "Last year we were more or less in the same position [same point difference to leaders Man City] and we ended up 15 points ahead of the City at the end. Anything can happen." It's ok to say that in front of camera to show hope and spirit, but I really hope our players are more aware of situation and that 2nd or 3rd place in EPL would be massive for us too. I don't think they are, actually, I think they too think - "OMG, we are champions, what the hell is happening with us?" Well, Leicester too were champions... I'll just quote Conte here, Fabregas should listen to him carefully: "If we think I click my fingers and we are ready to fight. It's not simple. Last season happened. A miracle. "It was a miracle, because we had the same players that the season before finished 10th." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 fabregas was excellent today he's better in 3-5-2 formation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,052 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He'll thrive in a 3 man midfield as I've said before. Just isn't cut out for a two the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 That's the Fabregas I know.. well done lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Interesting... thought he was one of the worst performers in what was a good overall performance against United. Couldn’t not pick up passes consistently enough Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.